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Old 03-22-2024, 08:53 PM  
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Old 01-07-2025, 11:14 AM   #1261
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But we're at the point in this whole dynasty thing where, like NE did, we have to start getting value out of things others can't or won't.

We've done it with some Rb's and WR's and such, but if you're hope is "Hey lets get a guy like Joe Alt at LT" I'd probably think other thoughts
We could always ask Joe's Dad if he'd come out of retirement for the fourpeat.
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Old 01-07-2025, 11:14 AM   #1262
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To get a true plug and play guy, you're talking about trading into the low teens, if not the top 10.

It would take a Mahomes-like trade to make that happen.

Trading up into the late teens/early 20's has about the same hit rate as staying put at the end of round one. Anything less than a black buster trade is basically throwing picks away.


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Old 01-07-2025, 11:15 AM   #1263
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Old 01-07-2025, 11:15 AM   #1264
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We've talked about tackles in the draft for years. About 75% of all the guys discussed have failed to become a serviceable tackle. A lot of them ended up as guards. Several of them are backups at best.

Trading up for a LT would be stupid.
Everyone went all apeshit for Anton Harrison, he's currently at RT on a terrible team.
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I mean so far the returns on Morris and Kingsley are right what you'd expect out of 2nd and 3rd round OT's, that's the normal conclusion there.

Also as far as LT goes it's not like NE found LT's. they had Matt Light for like 13 years and when he was gone they traded up for Nate Solder.
That's kinda the issue. Either keep bandaging it or go find a guy to put in there.
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To get a true plug and play guy, you're talking about trading into the low teens, if not the top 10.

It would take a Mahomes-like trade to make that happen.

Trading up into the late teens/early 20's has about the same hit rate as staying put at the end of round one. Anything less than a blocl buster trade is basically throwing picks away.
What you'd have to have is a player like McDuffie fall for some physical reason or something.

I'm skeptical that happens though.
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Old 01-07-2025, 11:19 AM   #1267
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Old 01-07-2025, 11:21 AM   #1268
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What you'd have to have is a player like McDuffie fall for some physical reason or something.

I'm skeptical that happens though.
Which is why you have to remain flexible in round one. If there is a difference maker in reach go up and get him. I don’t care if it’s an DT, Edge, CB, OT, or WR. Probably not doing that for a RB, LB, G, S, etc.
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Which is why you have to remain flexible in round one. If there is a difference maker in reach go up and get him. I don’t care if it’s an DT, Edge, CB, OT, or WR. Probably not doing that for a RB, LB, G, S, etc.
I'm kinda honing in on DT being picked pretty early. There's gonna be some good ones there for us.
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Old 01-07-2025, 11:35 AM   #1271
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I'm kinda honing in on DT being picked pretty early. There's gonna be some good ones there for us.
Wouldn't mind that.

Wharton's earned a contract and we don't really have anything behind him. That said, we've seemed to have a bunch of opportunities to pick up another DT alongside Jones and have shown little interest in doing so.

Turner, Benton, Brooks, Harrison, Jones -- all guys taken on the mid-2nd day who we could've had pretty easily.

We just didn't seem to be interested at all. It just seems waaaaaaay down on their list of priorities.
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Wouldn't mind that.

Wharton's earned a contract and we don't really have anything behind him. That said, we've seemed to have a bunch of opportunities to pick up another DT alongside Jones and have shown little interest in doing so.

Turner, Benton, Brooks, Harrison, Jones -- all guys taken on the mid-2nd day who we could've had pretty easily.

We just didn't seem to be interested at all. It just seems waaaaaaay down on their list of priorities.
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Old 01-07-2025, 02:09 PM   #1273
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Feels like a guy we'd look at in like the 5th or 6th round. And he obviously won't be there. May not be there at the end of the 2nd.

Not a penetrator and we just don't seem to put any value on guys like that at all.

"Hey, we have Nnadi -- what do we need another Nose for?"

I don't get it, but it just seems to be how we've operated, especially since we shifted to the 4-3 front.
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Everyone went all apeshit for Anton Harrison, he's currently at RT on a terrible team.
The there was Christian Darrisaw
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Wouldn't mind that.

Wharton's earned a contract and we don't really have anything behind him. That said, we've seemed to have a bunch of opportunities to pick up another DT alongside Jones and have shown little interest in doing so.

Turner, Benton, Brooks, Harrison, Jones -- all guys taken on the mid-2nd day who we could've had pretty easily.

We just didn't seem to be interested at all. It just seems waaaaaaay down on their list of priorities.
I'd love to see another pass rushing threat at DT, or a speed rusher from DE, but yeah, wouldn't bank on it. Frankly, I'd love to see a true NT that could just occasionally collapse the pocket, it'd be a massive upgrade on Nnadi being pushed 5 yards back every snap.
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