Football The Pioli Watch Thread - Page 85

cardken · 02:26 PM

I'm hijacking the thread starter to use for an "updates" area. Sorry cardken. Here are a few recent updates:

Last updated 1/13/09 2:30pm CDT (final update)

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

New England Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli has agreed to become head of football operations for the Kansas City Chiefs, two NFL sources confirmed to ESPN's Michael Smith.
The vice president for player personnel at New England, Pioli, 43, is close to Patriots coach Bill Belichick and has been with the Patriots for nine years. Pioli would find a warm welcome in Kansas City. At the last Chiefs' home game, shortly after the embattled Carl Peterson resigned after 20 years as president, general manager and CEO, several signs were spotted in the crowd proclaiming, "We want Pioli." Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3830515

**banyon** · 01-07-2009, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead

how far will this thread go when Pioli is officially named GM

We are required to use it anytime his name is mentioned for his entire tenure as GM.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-07-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead

how far will this thread go when Pioli is officially named GM

I couldn't say for sure, but I DO know this; when the news breaks, Roy will come around 300 posts later to "break the scoop".

**Tribal Warfare** · 01-07-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead

how far will this thread go when Pioli is officially named GM

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=198420

It's gone farther than the Carl Resigns thread

**banyon** · 01-07-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

I couldn't say for sure, but I DO know this; when the news breaks, Roy will come around 300 posts later to "break the scoop".

And then WPI the next day.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-07-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by banyon

And then WPI the next day.

Why all the hate on poor Athan? I'm more offended by that damn Rat In A Hat avatar than any of his journalism.

keg in kc · 01-07-2009, 10:02 PM

I'm offended that the words "Athan" and "journalism" appeared within 500 feet of each other.

Chiefs Pantalones · 01-07-2009, 10:07 PM

I just hope the deal doesn't fall through because Clark wants to keep Herm's dumbass around and Pioli gets turned off by it. Just give it all to Pioli and see what he can do, Clark. Just don't keep him around for 20 years like Carl if he's not progressing. I don't want a bunch of five year plans again, hell no.

ArrowheadHawk · 01-07-2009, 10:08 PM

Is anybody else about ready for a decision?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-07-2009, 10:12 PM

I can't wait for the speculation when it falls through, or Clark chooses someone else.

I'm sure all of the blame will be directed at Clark.

"Clark wasn't willing to pay him."

"Clark refused to let him fire Herm."

"Clark wouldn't give him total control."

You guys think this is a circus NOW, wait until it doesn't happen...

Boris The Great · 01-07-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Why all the hate on poor Athan? I\'m more offended by that damn Rat In A Hat avatar than any of his journalism.

Athan reported on Friday, FRIDAY mind you, that 1) Clark and Pioli had their interview, 2) Clark offered Pioli the job, and 3) Pioli was just a few hours away from giving KC, the Pats, and the Browns his decision.

That was nearly a week ago now and, obviously, it was 100% grade-A bullshit all the way. That very night Nick was saying these things, it came out that Pioli and Hunt werent even going to meet until Monday.

He is a total fraud.

Hammock Parties · 01-07-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris The Great

Athan reported on Friday, FRIDAY mind you, that 1) Clark and Pioli had their interview, 2) Clark offered Pioli the job, and 3) Pioli was just a few hours away from giving KC, the Pats, and the Browns his decision.

That was nearly a week ago now and, obviously, it was 100% grade-A bullshit all the way. That very night Nick was saying these things, it came out that Pioli and Hunt werent even going to meet until Monday.

He is a total fraud.

You're a ****ing liar. I don't appreciate it.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-07-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

I just hope the deal doesn't fall through because Clark wants to keep Herm's dumbass around and Pioli gets turned off by it. Just give it all to Pioli and see what he can do, Clark. Just don't keep him around for 20 years like Carl if he's not progressing. I don't want a bunch of five year plans again, hell no.

No...way...in...hell that heppens.

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

Is anybody else about ready for a decision?

Good God yes.

**DeezNutz** · 01-07-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

You're a ****ing liar. I don't appreciate it.

Why do you care if someone bashes Athan, not WP? You're not Nick. Who gives a ****?

KChiefs1 · 01-07-2009, 10:17 PM

http://www.projo.com/sports/jimdonal...3.3afd453.html

Jim Donaldson: Pats should do whatever it takes to keep Pioli on payroll

01:00 AM EST on Thursday, January 8, 2009

Pioli

On New Year’s Day, Patriots fans — already suffering from the hangover of their team being out of the playoffs for the first time since the 2002 season — awoke to breathless reports from several media outlets that Scott Pioli, Pats vice president of player personnel, would decide before the end of the day whether to take over as top football executive for the Cleveland Browns.

Ah, the joys of the Internet, where getting it right isn’t as important as getting something, anything, out there first.

It’s now a week later, and Pats fans still are holding their collective breath while Pioli decides whether to go to the Browns (highly unlikely), or (possibly) to the Kansas City Chiefs — with whom he interviewed earlier this week, or remain in New England. While with the Patriots his personnel acquisitions over nine seasons have enabled the team to acquire three Super Bowl rings, win four AFC championships, record a perfect, 16-0, regular season in 2007, and compile regular-season winning streaks of 18 games (2003-04) and 21 games (2006-08).

Let me say right here that I don’t know what Pioli’s going to do. As of last night, Pioli himself had yet to decide what he was going to do, or at least hadn’t announced his decision.

But I certainly know what I would do if I were the Patriots. Or the Browns. Or the Chiefs.

I’d do whatever it took to have Pioli on my payroll.

From the Patriots’ standpoint, the reasons to retain him are obvious. He and head coach Bill Belichick work exceptionally well together and the results of their combined efforts approach the incredible — eight straight winning seasons, in seven of which the Pats have won at least 10 games.
The Patriots won a franchise-record, five straight AFC titles from 2003 through 2007, and six in seven years. Over the last six years, New England’s regular-season record is a dazzling, 77-19.

Like Green Bay in the ’60s, the Steelers in the ’70s, the 49ers in the ’80s, and the Cowboys in the ’90s, the Patriots are the dominant team of this decade, and Pioli has played a major role in the franchise’s success.

Pioli and his staff of scouts — both college and professional — have done a first-rate job of identifying talented prospects who’ll fit into the Patriots’ system and organization. He’s also done a first-rate job of enabling the Pats to continue to retain the players necessary for success under the trying conditions of the NFL salary cap.

Pioli is, quite simply, the best in the business, as the Patriots’ record attests.

Which is why, if I were in Robert Kraft’s expensive shoes, I’d do everything possible to keep him.

And it’s also why, if I were Randy Lerner in Cleveland, or Carl Hunt in Kansas City, I’d do everything I could to lure Pioli away from New England.
From Pioli’s standpoint, there’s never been any indication that he’s unhappy here. His achievements have been recognized both publicly — he’s been NFL Executive of the Year three times (2003, 2004, 2007) — and contractually.

Still, the challenge of being in complete control of a franchise, with a paycheck commensurate with that responsibility, has to be tempting — more so in Kansas City than Cleveland.

You have to think that, if Pioli wanted the Browns job, he’d have taken it by now. The Browns today will announce the hiring of just-fired Jets coach Eric Mangini to replace Romeo Crennel — both Mangini and Crennel are, of course, former Patriots defensive coordinators — and reportedly will be interviewing Eagles general manager Tom Heckert and Ravens pro personnel director George Kokinis for the GM post.

Mangini’s hiring increases the chances that Crennel will remain in Cleveland as defensive coordinator, and is yet another indication that Pioli won’t be joining them.

The connections between Pioli and Mangini extend beyond their years together in New England. Mangini is the brother-in-law of Cleveland Indians general manager Mark Shapiro, who is one of Pioli’s best friends, dating back to when Belichick was coaching the Browns and hired Pioli as a pro personnel assistant.

But Pioli was reported to favor Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz as Crennel’s replacement — perhaps a reflection of a rift with Mangini in the wake of his leaving New England for New York, which drew Belichick’s ire, and the Spygate controversy, which Mangini triggered.

It also has been reported that Mangini favors Kokinis for the GM job in Cleveland.

Those aren’t the only reasons that Kansas City appears to be a much better situation for Pioli.

The Hunt family, which has owned the franchise since its inception as the Dallas Texans in the first days of the American Football League, traditionally has been patient with its coaches and top executives — too patient, many Chiefs followers would say, with Carl Peterson, who resigned as GM last month after 20 years on the job.

Long a top franchise — Kansas City played in two of the first four Super Bowls, and made the playoffs six times in seven years from 1991 through ’97 — the Chiefs have fallen on hard times, finishing 2-14 this season after going 4-12 last year with Herm Edwards as coach.

Presumably, the owners would have no problem giving Pioli complete control of football operations, including allowing him to bring in a new coach. The Chiefs also have considerable cap room, enabling Pioli to sign talented players, which could spark a quick turnaround. In any case, the Chiefs have nowhere to go but up.

As to whether Pioli wants to go to Kansas City, we soon should see.

If you’re a Patriots fan, you should be hoping he stays.
jdonalds@projo.com

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-07-2009, 10:18 PM

Carl Hunt.

I like Clint Hunt better.

Who ARE these ****heads?

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01-07-2009, 10:17 PM	#1274
KChiefs1 I’m a Mahomo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mid-Missouri Casino cash: $6771021	http://www.projo.com/sports/jimdonal...3.3afd453.html Jim Donaldson: Pats should do whatever it takes to keep Pioli on payroll 01:00 AM EST on Thursday, January 8, 2009 Pioli On New Year’s Day, Patriots fans — already suffering from the hangover of their team being out of the playoffs for the first time since the 2002 season — awoke to breathless reports from several media outlets that Scott Pioli, Pats vice president of player personnel, would decide before the end of the day whether to take over as top football executive for the Cleveland Browns. Ah, the joys of the Internet, where getting it right isn’t as important as getting something, anything, out there first. It’s now a week later, and Pats fans still are holding their collective breath while Pioli decides whether to go to the Browns (highly unlikely), or (possibly) to the Kansas City Chiefs — with whom he interviewed earlier this week, or remain in New England. While with the Patriots his personnel acquisitions over nine seasons have enabled the team to acquire three Super Bowl rings, win four AFC championships, record a perfect, 16-0, regular season in 2007, and compile regular-season winning streaks of 18 games (2003-04) and 21 games (2006-08). Let me say right here that I don’t know what Pioli’s going to do. As of last night, Pioli himself had yet to decide what he was going to do, or at least hadn’t announced his decision. But I certainly know what I would do if I were the Patriots. Or the Browns. Or the Chiefs. I’d do whatever it took to have Pioli on my payroll. From the Patriots’ standpoint, the reasons to retain him are obvious. He and head coach Bill Belichick work exceptionally well together and the results of their combined efforts approach the incredible — eight straight winning seasons, in seven of which the Pats have won at least 10 games. The Patriots won a franchise-record, five straight AFC titles from 2003 through 2007, and six in seven years. Over the last six years, New England’s regular-season record is a dazzling, 77-19. Like Green Bay in the ’60s, the Steelers in the ’70s, the 49ers in the ’80s, and the Cowboys in the ’90s, the Patriots are the dominant team of this decade, and Pioli has played a major role in the franchise’s success. Pioli and his staff of scouts — both college and professional — have done a first-rate job of identifying talented prospects who’ll fit into the Patriots’ system and organization. He’s also done a first-rate job of enabling the Pats to continue to retain the players necessary for success under the trying conditions of the NFL salary cap. Pioli is, quite simply, the best in the business, as the Patriots’ record attests. Which is why, if I were in Robert Kraft’s expensive shoes, I’d do everything possible to keep him. And it’s also why, if I were Randy Lerner in Cleveland, or Carl Hunt in Kansas City, I’d do everything I could to lure Pioli away from New England. From Pioli’s standpoint, there’s never been any indication that he’s unhappy here. His achievements have been recognized both publicly — he’s been NFL Executive of the Year three times (2003, 2004, 2007) — and contractually. Still, the challenge of being in complete control of a franchise, with a paycheck commensurate with that responsibility, has to be tempting — more so in Kansas City than Cleveland. You have to think that, if Pioli wanted the Browns job, he’d have taken it by now. The Browns today will announce the hiring of just-fired Jets coach Eric Mangini to replace Romeo Crennel — both Mangini and Crennel are, of course, former Patriots defensive coordinators — and reportedly will be interviewing Eagles general manager Tom Heckert and Ravens pro personnel director George Kokinis for the GM post. Mangini’s hiring increases the chances that Crennel will remain in Cleveland as defensive coordinator, and is yet another indication that Pioli won’t be joining them. The connections between Pioli and Mangini extend beyond their years together in New England. Mangini is the brother-in-law of Cleveland Indians general manager Mark Shapiro, who is one of Pioli’s best friends, dating back to when Belichick was coaching the Browns and hired Pioli as a pro personnel assistant. But Pioli was reported to favor Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz as Crennel’s replacement — perhaps a reflection of a rift with Mangini in the wake of his leaving New England for New York, which drew Belichick’s ire, and the Spygate controversy, which Mangini triggered. It also has been reported that Mangini favors Kokinis for the GM job in Cleveland. Those aren’t the only reasons that Kansas City appears to be a much better situation for Pioli. The Hunt family, which has owned the franchise since its inception as the Dallas Texans in the first days of the American Football League, traditionally has been patient with its coaches and top executives — too patient, many Chiefs followers would say, with Carl Peterson, who resigned as GM last month after 20 years on the job. Long a top franchise — Kansas City played in two of the first four Super Bowls, and made the playoffs six times in seven years from 1991 through ’97 — the Chiefs have fallen on hard times, finishing 2-14 this season after going 4-12 last year with Herm Edwards as coach. Presumably, the owners would have no problem giving Pioli complete control of football operations, including allowing him to bring in a new coach. The Chiefs also have considerable cap room, enabling Pioli to sign talented players, which could spark a quick turnaround. In any case, the Chiefs have nowhere to go but up. As to whether Pioli wants to go to Kansas City, we soon should see. If you’re a Patriots fan, you should be hoping he stays. jdonalds@projo.com __________________
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