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Old 02-09-2025, 08:08 PM  
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Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect

I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen
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Old 02-15-2025, 09:10 PM   #1231
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Jordan Mailata goes into the NFL International Player Program in 2018 and the Eagles pick him up and coach him for two years. Now imagine he got 2 games of starting snaps in 2019, one year before he was ready to play in 2020.

FloridaMan's equally impatient brother from Philadelphia says, "He's a guard at best. Either way, just give up on him ever playing tackle because he suuuuuucks!"
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Old 02-15-2025, 10:46 PM   #1232
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If we get a top 15 tackle we’re fine. I don’t even mind stop gaps. To get a book end for 6+ years will cost a fortune. A decent guy for 2 years who’s aging should be that much.

We have too much resources tied up at super star positions and interior o line.

I thought the thuney over a left tackle was a horrible idea from the get go. And it’s been known for a long time that a guard is much less important than a tackle. Even a right tackle.

My guess was investing in the interior o line was Andy Reid being progressive seeing some kind of trend the nfl had coming. Idk I don’t watch all 22 tape daily so idk but we won a lot of damn games.
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Old 02-16-2025, 09:40 AM   #1233
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If we get a top 15 tackle we’re fine. I don’t even mind stop gaps. To get a book end for 6+ years will cost a fortune. A decent guy for 2 years who’s aging should be that much.

We have too much resources tied up at super star positions and interior o line.

I thought the thuney over a left tackle was a horrible idea from the get go. And it’s been known for a long time that a guard is much less important than a tackle. Even a right tackle.

My guess was investing in the interior o line was Andy Reid being progressive seeing some kind of trend the nfl had coming. Idk I don’t watch all 22 tape daily so idk but we won a lot of damn games.
We got Thuney because there wasn't a LT available, dude
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Old 02-16-2025, 10:36 AM   #1234
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I think FloridaMan has a point in that you at least dangle an offer out there to the Falcons for Matthews.

Do I think they'll do it? No, I think they'll trade Kyle Pitts, trade or cut Grady Jarrett, cut David Onyemata, extend and restructure Kaleb Gary, and try desperately to trade Cousins. Those are the moves that hurt you less than taking protection away from a young QB.

Terron Armstead might also be a trade option because the Dolphins have tight cap issues. They can restructure Tua to get them to +18 million and Chubb can get them to +31.75m so that doesn't mean they would. Armstead doesn't give them a ton more space in a trade, only 4.2 million, but he is a commodity at this point they could stand to lose with Paul, who they drafted in round 2 last year, on board.
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Old 02-16-2025, 10:48 AM   #1235
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Listening to The Athletic Football show, those guys obviously cover all 32… they’re under the impression that KC should be hoping Kingsley improves enough that he can start next year. Funny how non-fans view these situations.

We all agree that’s best case, I just wonder if there’s any way Veach would remotely go that route. Can he really look at Patrick and go, “hey man, I know you just got clobbered all year with these LTs we gave you and it lead to your worst season, but we need to roll the dice on those guys again to get by. Sound good?”

Not only would that feel wrong, it also goes against Veach’s entire history.

Think it’s far more likely they go bigger at LT and see where else Kingsley can surface, RG, RT.
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Old 02-16-2025, 11:14 AM   #1236
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I'd rather do that than stick a brokedick bandaid in front of him just to have to force him into action again without the benefit of all the reps in TC.
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Old 02-16-2025, 11:35 AM   #1237
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You want to move a tackle to guard? Move Morris.

You look at his fat ass sticking out when he lines up at tackle and think that's a tackle? He's a guard. He's got a guard's body.

THAT'S a guard.
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Old 02-16-2025, 11:42 AM   #1238
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You want to move a tackle to guard? Move Morris.

You look at his fat ass sticking out when he lines up at tackle and think that's a tackle? He's a guard. He's got a guard's body.

THAT'S a guard.
I genuinely don't think Morris will have a role going forward. Mahomes freaking the **** out and Reid not even dressing him outside of the week 18 scrimmage speaks volumes.
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Listening to The Athletic Football show, those guys obviously cover all 32… they’re under the impression that KC should be hoping Kingsley improves enough that he can start next year. Funny how non-fans view these situations.

We all agree that’s best case, I just wonder if there’s any way Veach would remotely go that route. Can he really look at Patrick and go, “hey man, I know you just got clobbered all year with these LTs we gave you and it lead to your worst season, but we need to roll the dice on those guys again to get by. Sound good?”

Not only would that feel wrong, it also goes against Veach’s entire history.

Think it’s far more likely they go bigger at LT and see where else Kingsley can surface, RG, RT.
Again there’s a reason they moved him to G vs Denver in a meaningless game and then permanently moved him to G.

He was very good against Zach Allen. He’s most likely replacing Trey Smith at RG and that’s okay.

He looked way better and way more comfortable there.
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I genuinely don't think Morris will have a role going forward. Mahomes freaking the **** out and Reid not even dressing him outside of the week 18 scrimmage speaks volumes.
Matt Derrick said on his Q&A that Wanya Morris’ knee issue vs Denver was hurting him badly and he couldn’t move very well which is why he was eventually inactive.

He’s probably having a surgery to fix that this Spring
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Again there’s a reason they moved him to G vs Denver in a meaningless game and then permanently moved him to G.

He was very good against Zach Allen. He’s most likely replacing Trey Smith at RG and that’s okay.

He looked way better and way more comfortable there.
It was a meaningless game. And the Chiefs were shuffling the line all year trying to find something that worked.

They didn't move anyone permanently. Kingsley will be taking reps at tackle again in a few months.
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Listening to The Athletic Football show, those guys obviously cover all 32… they’re under the impression that KC should be hoping Kingsley improves enough that he can start next year. Funny how non-fans view these situations.

We all agree that’s best case, I just wonder if there’s any way Veach would remotely go that route. Can he really look at Patrick and go, “hey man, I know you just got clobbered all year with these LTs we gave you and it lead to your worst season, but we need to roll the dice on those guys again to get by. Sound good?”

Not only would that feel wrong, it also goes against Veach’s entire history.

Think it’s far more likely they go bigger at LT and see where else Kingsley can surface, RG, RT.
Will be interesting to see what Veach does. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes. Left Tackle is a very limited market. The good ones are staying with their current teams. Anyone available has major flaws or question marks. At some point maybe just need to get lucky with a draft pick. That's what has happened for the other teams.
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Again there’s a reason they moved him to G vs Denver in a meaningless game and then permanently moved him to G.

He was very good against Zach Allen. He’s most likely replacing Trey Smith at RG and that’s okay.

He looked way better and way more comfortable there.

Permanently? Lol
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It was a meaningless game. And the Chiefs were shuffling the line all year trying to find something that worked.

They didn't move anyone permanently. Kingsley will be taking reps at tackle again in a few months.
I’m sure he will take tackle reps bc Andy does that a lot in the offseason, but I think Kingsley replacing Trey is gonna happen. It’s not just Nate Taylor reporting that. I’ve heard Matt Derrick and Matt Verderame imply that as well.
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Matt Derrick said on his Q&A that Wanya Morris’ knee issue vs Denver was hurting him badly and he couldn’t move very well which is why he was eventually inactive.

He’s probably having a surgery to fix that this Spring
Bullshit. I've heard about this supposed crippling knee injury all year and yet he's always ****ing playing in meaningless scrimmages. It's a bone bruise. That's it, and if a bone bruise from the opening of training camp has led to him playing that shit for that long then he isn't worth pencilling in as anything other than a back up anyway.
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