Chiefs MELLINGER: Should The Chiefs Move On From Smith? - Page 83

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-17-2017, 12:35 PM

Yep, another Alex Smith thread - but a solid and fair read from Sam Mellinger.

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The only way forward is through brutal honesty and realistic self-evaluation. No sport moves as quickly, or with such little empathy, as the NFL.

Only fools assume what happened in the past will continue to happen in the future, unless that assumption is “the Patriots will win every year from now until armageddon because Bill Belichick is an alien.”

And so it is that this particular group of Chiefs players and executives attempt to solve a puzzle that no group of Chiefs players and executives has solved since 1970, which is so long ago CBS erased the tape to save money:

Get to the Super Bowl.

And it’s hard to believe that will happen without addressing the quarterback situation.

This is not a call for the Chiefs to walk away from Alex Smith, even though this is the first offseason since his arrival in which they could do it without a fatal salary cap hit. This is a call for them to look, to try, to make sure they don’t have access to a better option — whether that’s Tony Romo in a trade, Deshaun Watson in the draft (which would almost certainly require a trade up), or anything else.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy

Hammock Parties · 02-09-2017, 12:32 AM

Thanks Alex.

Chris Conley is the only WR who played all 16 games but never found the end zone this year. pic.twitter.com/q9JOGUwiwE
— PFF Fantasy Football (@PFF_Fantasy) February 9, 2017

Hootie · 02-09-2017, 12:43 AM

they love Cian on Le Batard - he has a quote they love to play about Alex Smith ... Cian says Alex Smith is the guy who can see a guy wide open in the end zone and run out of bounds because they are in field goal range.

you know who Cian loves? Tony Romo. Says Romo is the best pocket QB in the NFL. Best at making plays and extending plays in the pocket.

Hootie · 02-09-2017, 12:44 AM

http://presnapreads.com/2016/12/16/w...-dak-prescott/

**The Franchise** · 02-09-2017, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana

Thanks Alex.

Chris Conley is the only WR who played all 16 games but never found the end zone this year. pic.twitter.com/q9JOGUwiwE
— PFF Fantasy Football (@PFF_Fantasy) February 9, 2017

He's also the reason why our TE only had 4 ****ing TDs this year.

vailpass · 02-09-2017, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana

Thanks Alex.

Chris Conley is the only WR who played all 16 games but never found the end zone this year. pic.twitter.com/q9JOGUwiwE
— PFF Fantasy Football (@PFF_Fantasy) February 9, 2017

That's an off year for Smith. When he's focused he can go an entire season without throwing a TD to any of his WRs.

**Baby Lee** · 02-09-2017, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

He's also the reason why our TE only had 4 ****ing TDs this year.

Hammock Parties · 02-17-2017, 01:26 PM

On Kelce's deep ball drop, Maclin absolutely cooked his DB despite the cushion (S help was shaded to Mac's side, window still there). pic.twitter.com/xdhXrTVaU0
— Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) February 17, 2017

Don't mistake not getting the ball with not getting open. Maclin gets corners turned wrong consistently. Ppl don't notice without the throw. pic.twitter.com/xBK0eB9hgL
— Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) February 17, 2017

Hootie · 02-17-2017, 02:03 PM

I take a lot of that with a grain of salt. You could probably do things like that for every team and every QB and find instances where even Tom and Aaron miss guys like that.

That's not to say Alex doesn't miss more open guys than most - because, surely, he does.

Discuss Thrower · 02-17-2017, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Romosexual

I take a lot of that with a grain of salt. You could probably do things like that for every team and every QB and find instances where even Tom and Aaron miss guys like that.

That's not to say Alex doesn't miss more open guys than most - because, surely, he does.

DJ's left nut · 02-17-2017, 02:48 PM

Eh, that 2nd clip wasn't 'open'.

That was a half step of separation on an underneath zone where the reward wouldn't have justified the risk. That LB was dropping right into the zone there and without an absolutely perfect throw it could've easily been picked.

The first one it's hard to say, especially when the clip is acknowledging that the safety is shading towards Maclin there. I don't think it's at all an accident that he just happened to cut the S out of the screen. "The window is there....trust me" - why? Just show me the whole play.

This is a conversation you have to have with Discuss about once a month - bad arguments do a disservice to your good ones. There are good arguments against retaining Alex Smith but trying to point to that second clip as evidence that Smith is some cowardly jackass is just stupid. There are more reasons not to make that throw than there are reasons to make it.

Hootie · 02-17-2017, 02:50 PM

No shit. Just keep posting the Tyreek Hill missed read over and over again - that's a better point, anyways. No QB at any level misses that read.

Red Dawg · 02-17-2017, 03:00 PM

Smith is such a bum. How can they screw up so bad and bring him back for another year.

In58men · 02-17-2017, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder

Just texted this to my entire family and a few co-workers

Discuss Thrower · 02-17-2017, 03:50 PM

Bullshit cartoon; Smith's wife isn't wearing silver and black.

bsroyals54 · 02-17-2017, 05:09 PM

So what was the turning point that made everyone hate Alex Smith, and why did it take so long? The Pittsburgh playoff loss? It took you guys that long? The Smithers I mean.

02-09-2017, 12:32 AM	#1231
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $1050478	Thanks Alex. Chris Conley is the only WR who played all 16 games but never found the end zone this year. pic.twitter.com/q9JOGUwiwE — PFF Fantasy Football (@PFF_Fantasy) February 9, 2017
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02-09-2017, 12:43 AM	#1232
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	they love Cian on Le Batard - he has a quote they love to play about Alex Smith ... Cian says Alex Smith is the guy who can see a guy wide open in the end zone and run out of bounds because they are in field goal range. you know who Cian loves? Tony Romo. Says Romo is the best pocket QB in the NFL. Best at making plays and extending plays in the pocket.
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02-09-2017, 12:44 AM	#1233
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	http://presnapreads.com/2016/12/16/w...-dak-prescott/
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02-17-2017, 01:26 PM	#1237
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $1050478	On Kelce's deep ball drop, Maclin absolutely cooked his DB despite the cushion (S help was shaded to Mac's side, window still there). pic.twitter.com/xdhXrTVaU0 — Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) February 17, 2017 Don't mistake not getting the ball with not getting open. Maclin gets corners turned wrong consistently. Ppl don't notice without the throw. pic.twitter.com/xBK0eB9hgL — Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) February 17, 2017 __________________ Chiefs game films
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02-17-2017, 02:03 PM	#1238
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I take a lot of that with a grain of salt. You could probably do things like that for every team and every QB and find instances where even Tom and Aaron miss guys like that. That's not to say Alex doesn't miss more open guys than most - because, surely, he does.
Posts: 56,356

02-17-2017, 02:48 PM	#1240
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-610901	Eh, that 2nd clip wasn't 'open'. That was a half step of separation on an underneath zone where the reward wouldn't have justified the risk. That LB was dropping right into the zone there and without an absolutely perfect throw it could've easily been picked. The first one it's hard to say, especially when the clip is acknowledging that the safety is shading towards Maclin there. I don't think it's at all an accident that he just happened to cut the S out of the screen. "The window is there....trust me" - why? Just show me the whole play. This is a conversation you have to have with Discuss about once a month - bad arguments do a disservice to your good ones. There are good arguments against retaining Alex Smith but trying to point to that second clip as evidence that Smith is some cowardly jackass is just stupid. There are more reasons not to make that throw than there are reasons to make it. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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02-17-2017, 02:50 PM	#1241
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	No shit. Just keep posting the Tyreek Hill missed read over and over again - that's a better point, anyways. No QB at any level misses that read.
Posts: 56,356

02-17-2017, 03:00 PM	#1242
Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $1482858	Smith is such a bum. How can they screw up so bad and bring him back for another year. __________________ If you're not first you're last!
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02-17-2017, 03:50 PM	#1244
Discuss Thrower "You like to drink?" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: "I like to drink." Casino cash: $-140000	Bullshit cartoon; Smith's wife isn't wearing silver and black. __________________ Chiefs 2016 Opponents: Home: JAX, TEN, NO, TB, NYJ. Away: HOU, IND, ATL, CAR, PIT Chiefs 2017 Opponents: Home: BUF, MIA, PHI, WSH, AFC North. Away: NE, NYJ, NYG, DAL, AFC South
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02-17-2017, 05:09 PM	#1245
bsroyals54 Devil's Advocate Join Date: May 2014 Casino cash: $9951971	So what was the turning point that made everyone hate Alex Smith, and why did it take so long? The Pittsburgh playoff loss? It took you guys that long? The Smithers I mean.
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