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Dante84 · 09:40 AM

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OKchiefs · 07-11-2018, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I feel like Watson will eventually.

Jimmy G is the real deal though, gonna have to live with that handsome mug for the next decade. He gets the ball out of his hands extremely fast.

I'm not sure how anything so far has proven that. He wasn't complete shit like their other quarterbacks, but he still only threw 7 TD to 5 INT. And of course I saw the power rankings today that had San Francisco above us which is bullshit.

Kiimo · 07-11-2018, 04:22 PM

Put 381 yards on Tennessee a couple weeks before Alex Smith could only muster 261.

He also did it not knowing the playbook or his coaches or his teammates.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 07-11-2018, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

I have Denver at 30

I can't believe you think there's two teams worse .

**Ming the Merciless** · 07-11-2018, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Doubt it.

Time will tell...he won 5 in a row on that team, and made believers out of the fans and the locker room.

I watched a a game in person (the Titans game) and he made a believer out of me.

Now, they are gonna have time to break him down and throw everything at him this season...So I would say if he puts together 5 wins in a row this season, he is the real deal and here to stay for sure...

Also, the NFC is insane with the Rams, Vikings, Green bay.....but I would not be shocked if the niners got a wild card and the chiefs didnt...

Kiimo · 07-11-2018, 05:07 PM

I feel like Jimmy did as much to convince me as Watson did.

Watson mostly chucked it to his outstanding wide receivers. Now he's 50 in the top 100 NFL players and I don't think I've seen one out pass. I feel like secondaries are going to adjust and then he won't have the arm strength to complete 12 yard out routes in tight windows.

I could be wrong though. I'm keeping Deandre Hopkins in my fantasy league just in case.

**RealSNR** · 07-11-2018, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I feel like Jimmy did as much to convince me as Watson did.

Watson mostly chucked it to his outstanding wide receivers. Now he's 50 in the top 100 NFL players and I don't think I've seen one out pass. I feel like secondaries are going to adjust and then he won't have the arm strength to complete 12 yard out routes in tight windows.

I could be wrong though. I'm keeping Deandre Hopkins in my fantasy league just in case.

That's definitely a smart bet. And Watson may continue to put up eye-popping numbers.

Where I predict people will look like idiots, however, is the whole, "ICE IN HIS VEINS WHEN HE WAS IN COLLEGE = KID'S GOT IT GONNA WIN A BUNCH OF SUPER BOWLS!"

Deshaun Watson will probably go to a few playoff games before he breaks down. Maybe he'll go to a bunch of them. Maybe he won't break down from injury at all. But the narrative when he gets into the playoffs will always be, "He beat Alabama, so he can certainly beat __________," and in the NFL that's rarely a true statement. He will certainly lose a few of those, maybe all of them, and when that happens, the narrative on him is going to change even if he is a spectacular QB.

In the end, I'll take the more durable Mahomes with far more impressive potential and a REAL arm, not some slow-ass wobble launcher.

Kiimo · 07-11-2018, 05:55 PM

Yeah winning in college doesn't translate much. If it did Vince Young would have had a longer career than 2 years.

Pasta Little Brioni · 07-11-2018, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

I can't believe you think there's two teams worse .

I give honest evaluations of teams...

**RealSNR** · 07-11-2018, 07:05 PM

Who was the last college "winner" QB to have a great pro career?

I'm sure there are a few guys who won a college championship who had a great pro career, but you almost certainly likely have to go pretty far back to get to them.

KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN · 07-12-2018, 10:56 AM

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...214754180.html

Another article with a bunch of opinions from supposed " football experts ". It's amazing how these people can even keep collecting a paycheck. 3 people on Good Morning Football picked the Chiefs to finish last in the division! Obviously they're not doing their homework.

KCrockaholic · 07-12-2018, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...214754180.html

Another article with a bunch of opinions from supposed " football experts ". It's amazing how these people can even keep collecting a paycheck. 3 people on Good Morning Football picked the Chiefs to finish last in the division! Obviously they're not doing their homework.

Imagine being naive enough to think the Chiefs will get worse because they let Alex Smith go for Patrick Mahomes.

Because that's literally their only reason.

The Chiefs defense has a great shot at actually being better than last year.

BleedingRed · 07-12-2018, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I feel like Jimmy did as much to convince me as Watson did.

Watson mostly chucked it to his outstanding wide receivers. Now he's 50 in the top 100 NFL players and I don't think I've seen one out pass. I feel like secondaries are going to adjust and then he won't have the arm strength to complete 12 yard out routes in tight windows.

I could be wrong though. I'm keeping Deandre Hopkins in my fantasy league just in case.

I'm going to be nice and say you have been fooled. Lets us start.......

Desean Watson VS. Jimmy G

Stats:

So as not to derail the thread, Desean Watson as has ALREADY been detailed didn't just chuck the ball up. He made many different throws including out routes.

So, just know Jimmy G hasn't done shit to show anyone anything more than Watson.

OKchiefs · 07-12-2018, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

I'm going to be nice and say you have been fooled. Lets us start.......

Desean Watson VS. Jimmy G

Stats:

So as not to derail the thread, Desean Watson as has ALREADY been detailed didn't just chuck the ball up. He made many different throws including out routes.

So, just know Jimmy G hasn't done shit to show anyone anything more than Watson.

Watson won't be doing anything when he shreds his knee again.

Chris Meck · 07-12-2018, 11:50 AM

There is a veteran upgrade at each level of the defense before you even get into considering the draftees or young players improving.
Xavier Williams, Anthony Hitchens, and Eric Berry.

There's no reason to think they won't be at least marginally improved. If any of the rookies contribute, that improvement may be dramatic. Even if they don't, it should overall be an improved squad. I think it likely, however, that at least Nnadi and Speaks would be rotational players at a minimum, and clearly have some talent as opposed to JAG's.
A middle of the pack defense with this offense's capabilities should be a play-off team.

BleedingRed · 07-12-2018, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Watson won't be doing anything when he shreds his knee again.

Considering he did it after he shredded it the first time.... I guess you are right/wrong.

But yes he has injury concerns.

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Kiimo MVP Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Studio City, CA Casino cash: $2728742	I feel like Jimmy did as much to convince me as Watson did. Watson mostly chucked it to his outstanding wide receivers. Now he's 50 in the top 100 NFL players and I don't think I've seen one out pass. I feel like secondaries are going to adjust and then he won't have the arm strength to complete 12 yard out routes in tight windows. I could be wrong though. I'm keeping Deandre Hopkins in my fantasy league just in case.
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Kiimo MVP Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Studio City, CA Casino cash: $2728742	Yeah winning in college doesn't translate much. If it did Vince Young would have had a longer career than 2 years.
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KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN Starter Join Date: Jan 2009 Casino cash: $9905574	https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...214754180.html Another article with a bunch of opinions from supposed " football experts ". It's amazing how these people can even keep collecting a paycheck. 3 people on Good Morning Football picked the Chiefs to finish last in the division! Obviously they're not doing their homework.
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07-12-2018, 11:50 AM	#12239
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $354910	There is a veteran upgrade at each level of the defense before you even get into considering the draftees or young players improving. Xavier Williams, Anthony Hitchens, and Eric Berry. There's no reason to think they won't be at least marginally improved. If any of the rookies contribute, that improvement may be dramatic. Even if they don't, it should overall be an improved squad. I think it likely, however, that at least Nnadi and Speaks would be rotational players at a minimum, and clearly have some talent as opposed to JAG's. A middle of the pack defense with this offense's capabilities should be a play-off team.
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