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Space Exploration megathread
Since a number of cool things are happening in space exploration these days, we'll widen the scope of this thread a smidge. Conversation about all things space exploration are welcome, whether it be from NASA, SpaceX, ULA, Blue Origin, or anyone else. Chances are most of the discussion will still be about SpaceX since they love to make things public and fun, but nothing's off limits. I'll eventually get around to modifying the OP to include resources for other companies too, but in the meantime, feel free to post any cool stuff you run across.

Lists of Upcoming Missions



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Old 09-28-2017, 09:01 PM   #1201
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I'm in the boonies without a laptop, so I can't embed, but looks like the moon just became a stepping stone.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZm88uhg1yN/
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Old 09-28-2017, 09:09 PM   #1202
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I'm in the boonies without a laptop, so I can't embed, but looks like the moon just became a stepping stone.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZm88uhg1yN/
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https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comm...7_making_life/


Current codename for the vehicle is BFR. ITS has been dropped.

BFR will replace Falcon 9, Falcon Heavy, and Dragon. The vehicles will run concurrently for a while to ease customer onboarding.

BFR should be cheaper to operate than Falcon 1.

BFR has a reusable payload of 150 tons, and an expendable payload of 250 tons.

The upper stage will come in crew, LEO cargo, and LEO tanker variants.

The upper stage will have 4 vacuum Raptor engines and 2 sea level Raptor engines.

The upper stage will contain 40 cabins, along with common areas. Each cabin is expected to house 2 or 3 people for a total crew capacity of approximately 100 people.

On-orbit fuel transfer will be done from the rear of each BFR upper stage vehicle.

BFR's first stage will have 31 Raptor engines.

Raptor has achieved 1200 seconds of firing time over 42 test fires, the longest single firing being 40 seconds.

Last year's 12-meter carbon fiber tank failed catastrophically while being tested well above margins.

BFR will see application as a point-to-point travel method on Earth, with most terrestrial destinations within 30 minutes of each other. Launches from floating pads at sea.

The aim is for BFR construction to begin in 6-9 months, with flights within 5 years. 2x cargo flights to Mars in 2022, 2x cargo & 2x crew in 2024.
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Old 09-29-2017, 06:28 AM   #1206
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Current codename for the vehicle is BFR. ITS has been dropped.

BFR will replace Falcon 9, Falcon Heavy, and Dragon. The vehicles will run concurrently for a while to ease customer onboarding.

BFR should be cheaper to operate than Falcon 1.

BFR has a reusable payload of 150 tons, and an expendable payload of 250 tons.

The upper stage will come in crew, LEO cargo, and LEO tanker variants.

The upper stage will have 4 vacuum Raptor engines and 2 sea level Raptor engines.

The upper stage will contain 40 cabins, along with common areas. Each cabin is expected to house 2 or 3 people for a total crew capacity of approximately 100 people.

On-orbit fuel transfer will be done from the rear of each BFR upper stage vehicle.

BFR's first stage will have 31 Raptor engines.

Raptor has achieved 1200 seconds of firing time over 42 test fires, the longest single firing being 40 seconds.

Last year's 12-meter carbon fiber tank failed catastrophically while being tested well above margins.

BFR will see application as a point-to-point travel method on Earth, with most terrestrial destinations within 30 minutes of each other. Launches from floating pads at sea.

The aim is for BFR construction to begin in 6-9 months, with flights within 5 years. 2x cargo flights to Mars in 2022, 2x cargo & 2x crew in 2024.
I assume BFR stands for Big ****ing Rocket?
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Berger with an excellent write-up, as always...

https://arstechnica.com/science/2017...bit-more-real/

Includes a bunch of the presentation slides as well.

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Old 09-29-2017, 07:51 AM   #1208
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I'm in the boonies without a laptop, so I can't embed, but looks like the moon just became a stepping stone.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZm88uhg1yN/
Should have been working towards that for the last 40+ years, IMO. Biggest issue with killing the Apollo program back in the day.
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Berger with an excellent write-up, as always...

https://arstechnica.com/science/2017...bit-more-real/

Includes a bunch of the presentation slides as well.
The question is, how does Elon Musk pay for this? BFR has a huge payload, but very few entities need that kind of payload. For the vast majority, Falcon 9 and the Falcon Heavy are more than capable of servicing their needs.
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Old 09-29-2017, 10:39 AM   #1211
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The question is, how does Elon Musk pay for this? BFR has a huge payload, but very few entities need that kind of payload. For the vast majority, Falcon 9 and the Falcon Heavy are more than capable of servicing their needs.
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It certainly remains an open question as to whether SpaceX can pull off the technological mastery behind the BFR system, but it at least has a start. That raises the question of whether the California company has the funding to pay for it.

Musk seems to think he has solved that problem, as he intends to consolidate the Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy rockets, and the Dragon spacecraft, into a single reusable architecture—the BFR system that can meet the needs of all its existing clients, and many more. "This way, we will be able to apply all of our resources to one system," he said.

That is, if SpaceX can use the BFR to launch commercial satellites and national security payloads, as well as delivering cargo and crew to the International Space Station, it will have enough of a funding wedge to design, develop, and fly the BFR system. This seems optimistic (a shocker with SpaceX, we know). But it does not seem entirely out of the realm of possibility if SpaceX can leverage NASA and military development contracts to build the BFR system.
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I'm in the boonies without a laptop, so I can't embed, but looks like the moon just became a stepping stone.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZm88uhg1yN/
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I assume BFR stands for Big ****ing Rocket?
Big Falcon Rocket

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