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Old 03-23-2022, 10:34 AM  
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Chiefs trade Tyreek Hill to the Dolphins
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Old 03-23-2022, 04:00 PM   #1186
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I'll go on record, we're winning the west again and I'll take my chances with Mahomes beyond that.
Hmmm I’m good with Mahomes at QB. We do need to address the WR position. We will. Today if we played with the signed players we have I would say we have the 4th best roster in the division…. Thankfully, the season does not start today.
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Old 03-23-2022, 04:00 PM   #1187
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And that’s partly Hill’s fault. Hill could have agreed to a new deal before this offseason but he didn’t. He waited to see what Godwin and Adams got. And then that forced Veach’s hand.
Exactly.
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Old 03-23-2022, 04:01 PM   #1188
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If he is guaranteed that much money, very good chance he's got an enormous signing bonus. Which means he will be on that team in 4 years even if he gets hurt. It's harder to do fuzzy math on a short term contract where you can't spread the cap hit. They say only $72m is guaranteed but id imagine the entire contract is practically guaranteed.
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Old 03-23-2022, 04:02 PM   #1189
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I'm talking about next February, dude.
There isn't a "next February".

Hill wanted his money NOW.
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Old 03-23-2022, 04:02 PM   #1190
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Old 03-23-2022, 04:03 PM   #1191
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There isn't a "next February".

Hill wanted his money NOW.
Who gives a ****? He was under contract for 1 more season. If he doesn't like that he can accept what we offered or wait till next off-season to break the bank.
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Old 03-23-2022, 04:04 PM   #1192
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Wait did I just read that Bradberry has a $22 million cap hit? So we are going to trade for this guy and that would require probably a 2nd or 3rd round pick?

and you think that is better than having hill. wtf man
You read it wrong, man.

Bradberry for a 4th has been the rumored asking price.

If KC could get him for that, and have him for 2022 at 13.5M, that's a solid value. If he wants an extension: Next target up.

The exercise's point is to examine what can be done with the resources acquired. Which is that KC takes a step back at WR (but likely will devote decent resources to a veteran, whether via trade for someone like Tyler Lockett or through free agency) and can add a good amount of upgrade-level talent on defense with the money freed up.

And then layer cheap draft picks on top of that.

This frees them up to take some big swings and some medium swings on players that improve the roster overall.
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Old 03-23-2022, 04:04 PM   #1193
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But we got a much better shot at winning a super bowl this year. I think you have to take that shot and deal with trading hill next year even if that means we get a 2nd for him instead of what we got. I'd rather take the super bowl shot this season and get less next year.
if this move helps us get 3 WRs instead of relying on 1 then we can soften the blow considerably. Add on to that the cap savings and picks. If veach can pull off a masterful draft like last year imagine what he can do with twice as many picks.
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Old 03-23-2022, 04:05 PM   #1194
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He'll get the $120M if he is there for 4 ****ing years. So stop saying he's only going to get $72M if he's there for 4 years, you dumbass.
I bet you believed Taysom Hill would get $140mil over 4 years too.
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Old 03-23-2022, 04:06 PM   #1195
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Who gives a ****? He was under contract for 1 more season. If he doesn't like that he can accept what we offered or wait till next off-season to break the bank.
Would rather have traded him now.

Boatload of picks and cap space. They can trade for a good WR on a fair deal like Lockett or Cooks and also have 4 picks in the first 2 rounds
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Old 03-23-2022, 04:06 PM   #1196
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Who gives a ****? He was under contract for 1 more season. If he doesn't like that he can accept what we offered or wait till next off-season to break the bank.
Or he could sit out and we get nothing for his $21M cap hit. You conveniently skip over that every time you respond...
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No. I havent. Every ****ing time Ive accounted for that possibility happening and explained why it's really not that big a deal and even does us a bit of a favor when it comes to the 2023 cap. Unless you actually think he's sitting out the ENTIRE season, which ****s him way more than us.
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No. I havent. Every ****ing time Ive accounted for that possibility happening and explained why it's really not that big a deal and even does us a bit of a favor when it comes to the 2023 cap.
How does handing him $21M this year and then tagging him at a guaranteed one year salary of the top 5 WR's in the league help us next year?

That's a rhetorical question, BTW.
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