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Old 04-25-2025, 07:21 PM  
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Old Yesterday, 04:19 PM   #106
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TBH, the more I looked the more I think he's my least favourite pick. I never really got on the ONL train.

As a Wharton replacement, it's a solid move, he'll be better imo, but maybe not by a whole lot.
Tershawn Wharton had 6.5 sacks in 2024.

A little better than that?

I'll take that any day of the week.
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I don't see anything there that's too concerning.

This kid is your Wharton replacement, only when he wins, he wins fast.
12 flags in 2 seasons and missed 1/3 of his tackles is concerning.

The coaches are thoroughly aware and I’m sure will get it under control.
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Interior pass rush is a scarce resource not all that different from T.

The Chiefs got a guy that is exceptional at that one thing, even if he needs work in the run game. I reject the notion that he's completely useless against the run, and I'm pretty sure that's backed up by the advanced stats too.

You don't get a guy that can rush the passer like he does AND stuff the run at a high level at the end of the 2nd round.
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Also, even if he's a part time rotational guy, he's ready to get after the QB today. He can play next to Jones on passing downs week 1.

If all we get are 4 years of this guy wrecking shit on passing downs only, that's still great value.
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Run defense is all about discipline, strength and being prepared. That comes with coaching.

You can’t teach the tools he has.
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So why is no one in the draft room looking excited? Most of the videos from the draft room shows everyone clapping and jumping. Chiefs look like they are not excited.
Been there, done that.
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It's just a LOT easier to find a viable alternative to someone like Collins on the 3rd day or UDFA.

Nazir Stackhouse is someone I mentioned - he'll give you 90% of what Collins can, IMO.

Finding that for an interior pass rusher is rare. It's what made Wharton such a coup. Those just do not happen very often.
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Ryan Tracy loved this pick and the draft as a whole. And he is usually levelheaded when it comes to overhyping prospects. Harms wasn't a fan but he liked the rest of the draft.
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Ryan Tracy loved this pick and the draft as a whole. And he is usually levelheaded when it comes to overhyping prospects. Harms wasn't a fan but he liked the rest of the draft.

I think Harms, like me, was really on Jordan Burch and Joshua Farmer (believe he also was a huge fan of Alfred Collins) Norman-Lott is a very different player than I thought they’d add at DT but I see the fit.

Gillotte and Butch are two sides of the same coin. If you like Burch you like Gillotte for the same reasons; they’re both guys with the length and power Spagnuolo requires but have some speed and bend.
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They can find the big 0/1 tech run stuffers off the street. Makes sense they look for a guy that can get some rush up there.
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I think Harms, like me, was really on Jordan Burch and Joshua Farmer (believe he also was a huge fan of Alfred Collins) Norman-Lott is a very different player than I thought they’d add at DT but I see the fit.

Gillotte and Butch are two sides of the same coin. If you like Burch you like Gillotte for the same reasons; they’re both guys with the length and power Spagnuolo requires but have some speed and bend.
FWIW- the guys on a podcast I was listening to were remarking that Gillotte is not a typical Spags DE because he doesn’t have the length. His arm length is 31 7/8. ONL arm length though is 33 3/4 .
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I just can't bring myself to care.

I don't think that was their point. The pick is designed to find a rotational fit as a pass-rusher for at LEAST 2 seasons, IMO.

This year he may struggle to break into the rotation because of how much the team values Danna. I don't understand it, but they do.

Because with Danna and Omenihu, the team's going to like to kick one of those guys inside on passing downs. Or even Karlaftis.

Now if you move Jones out wide, that would seem to open a spot for him. You're not going to want Danna and Omenihu in there; you want a little more bulk than that. So if you have Jones at DE w/ Karlaftis at the other DE, Omenihu and ONL seem like a viable interior rush.

But ultimately I just don't see them even being worried about whether or not ONL becomes a 3-down DT someday.
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Often times I feel the Chiefs build their roster with beating teams at the buzzer in mind. This is one of those guys. When the opposing offense is on the field in the waning seconds of the game the running game is virtually irrelevant. This is the guy you went out there along side Chris Jones.
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Norman-Lott is a perfect fit for a pass rush-heavy role, even if the run defense still needs some polish. I’m here for a rotational guy that can cause chaos up the middle right away. The Chiefs got a steal in this one. Let’s see if he can develop the other aspects, either way, he’s a great value pick for a 2nd rounder.
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