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Old 02-09-2025, 08:08 PM  
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Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect

I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen
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Old 02-10-2025, 09:44 AM   #106
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This is what i mean, who can you trade for? Slater is a FA from 2026 but no way would LAC fix our biggest hole.

Go all in on FA. Just fix the issue. We do not need a top 5 LT, we just need a good, solid LT who can offer Mahomes 3 seconds of freedom. If we then hit on a LT in the fourth round, trade the FA and move on with some more rookies.
There’s no guarantee that any of the names currently thrown around even come here. Stanley and/or Jackson could be tagged/extended in their current cities or sign elsewhere with a team with more money available. Cam Robinson probably isn’t much of an upgrade at all but he’ll still get a decent contract somewhere.

Yes, FA could be an option. But it’s just as possible we strike out there and have no choice but the draft.
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Old 02-10-2025, 09:50 AM   #107
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It’s the draft, we’re only fixing this problem through the draft, you know it, I know it, the league knows it, Veach has to nail that pick and Andy and Clark need to have the trust to give the necessary resources to do it. If you could give a Patrick Mahomes package for an LT with an additional second or third to get an LT that Veach and Reid feels is great would you do it? I would in a heartbeat. Sorry Karlaftis, sorry Bolton, sorry Trey, there are going to have to be losses to make the gains necessary to protect QB1.
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Old 02-10-2025, 09:52 AM   #108
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It’s the draft, we’re only fixing this problem through the draft, you know it, I know it, the league knows it, Veach has to nail that pick and Andy and Clark need to have the trust to give the necessary resources to do it. If you could give a Patrick Mahomes package for an LT with an additional second or third to get an LT that Veach and Reid feels is great would you do it? I would in a heartbeat. Sorry Karlaftis, sorry Bolton, sorry Trey, there are going to have to be losses to make the gains necessary to protect QB1.
Last time we were in this situation we traded for a LT. Yeah he wasn't the best but he won a SB here.
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Old 02-10-2025, 09:54 AM   #109
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Last time we were in this situation we traded for a LT. Yeah he wasn't the best but he won a SB here.
Well see, but instead of going by rentals at one of the most important positions on every team, we need to get a five year player.
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Old 02-10-2025, 10:02 AM   #110
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Well the only other option is pulling a Texans and trading out the ass for a quality starter from a tanking team. And that too has risks — you’re really dipping into the resource well at a time when we need draft picks and cash to replace aging players
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Old 02-10-2025, 10:13 AM   #111
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Nobody considers #31 as a first rounder.

Nobody.

Dangling #31 for a premier left tackle?

Nobody's taking that trade.
we’ll like have to give up 2 1s and our 2 to move up and get a premium tackle, or trade for one that happens to be available. You have to decide if that’s worth it to get a real LT, but we’re def gonna need an upgrade at RT as well. Taylor isn’t him.

if we can add a LT and RB with (mostly) the same defense I’ll feel very good. We’ll see how Veach plays this offseason. I imagine he’s as aggressive as possible. Unfortunately RT will have to wait until next offseason. I don’t think we should re-sign Smith but I’m curious to see if he’ll have a bounce back season next to a RT that isnt Taylor.
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Old 02-10-2025, 10:17 AM   #112
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I hope Clark steps in and tells them to never, EVER let it happen again, no matter what the cost.
Clark is unlikely to do a damn thing. He's the reason things are the way they are. Look at cash spending Philly compared to the chiefs: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cash/_/year/2025/sort/cash_total

Nearly $60m difference, and it shows. Not saying that approach always works, & the Browns are exhibit A for that. But when you pair a superior GM like Roseman with an owner with open pockets & a team using modern accounting practices it's gonna be hard for conservative owners like Clark to keep up.

Good article on modern accounting practices: https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/longformarticle/understanding-the-cleveland-browns-spending-philosophy-why-it-is-sustainable--216398108/
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Old 02-10-2025, 10:21 AM   #113
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I dont even think its a personnel issue as much as i think its an Andy Heck issue.


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Old 02-10-2025, 10:23 AM   #114
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Stanley and/or Jackson could be tagged/extended in their current cities or sign elsewhere with a team with more money available.
This garbage right here is no longer an excuse.

If either Jackson or Stanley are available, and one of them doesn't end up a Chief, then this organization is failing Mahomes. End of conversation.

You pay whatever the **** you need to pay to get one of them, that's really all there is to it.
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Old 02-10-2025, 10:26 AM   #115
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1. Is everyone just giving up on Kingsley being able to make a significant jump before next season? He has the physical attributes -- is there a concern that he doesn't have the mental ability to play the position? Left tackles are rarely good as rookies -- particularly those picked outside of the first round. What's Kingsley's current ceiling projection?

2. The Jets appear to be having a fire sale. Any tackles there in whom we would be interested?
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This is gonna not sound great but I wouldn't expect this...

The Chiefs aren't exactly a team that goes above and beyond to spend a ton of cash to get around the cap. It's one of the reason's every time we go to the SB we get to hear about how the other team is more talented. We're facing teams that are way more willing to use void years and big time cash to circumvent the cap.
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Old 02-10-2025, 10:29 AM   #117
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Let's be honest here, we're just ****ed at the LT position.

Orlando Brown Jr. isn't all that, and I while I'm glad we didn't just give him his bag, I would have paid him what the Bengals did. But that is all in the rearview mirror.

OK Reasons we are ****ed.

1. There are zero Good FA options. I mean at this point you are praying for Ronnie Staley and frankly I think you would end up over paying him, and you still have availability issues.

2. I don't see many guys you can even trade for. My initial thoughts were that the 49ers are a hot mess, so maybe you could get Trent Williams or a couple years, but the dude is 37 and by the looks of things he's not a tradable asset in 2025, but that is the type of trade you would be looking for.

3. The draft is really our only option, but thee guys are all projects IMO, which lends me to think we are closers to drafting another Kingsley type of LT, which isn't what we really need. Again, this is why I would have been all in on trading whatever it took to grab Joe Alt but that dude went 5th overall so its not like it was ever in the realm of possibility. I don't think we really have what it takes to trade up and grab one of the top three LTs in the draft.
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Old 02-10-2025, 10:30 AM   #118
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This is gonna not sound great but I wouldn't expect this...

The Chiefs aren't exactly a team that goes above and beyond to spend a ton of cash to get around the cap. It's one of the reason's every time we go to the SB we get to hear about how the other team is more talented. We're facing teams that are way more willing to use void years and big time cash to circumvent the cap.
Didn't we lose our cap guy? Anyway I think it has been shown Hunt and Veach are also competitive pricks and won't stand still and do nothing. Veach tried to find a LT and made trades during the season to shore up positions. They aren't going to stand pat.
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This is gonna not sound great but I wouldn't expect this...

The Chiefs aren't exactly a team that goes above and beyond to spend a ton of cash to get around the cap. It's one of the reason's every time we go to the SB we get to hear about how the other team is more talented. We're facing teams that are way more willing to use void years and big time cash to circumvent the cap.
Yep, I'm sick of hearing how we can't afford to keep all our guys while the Eagles and Ravens manage to build freaking dream teams around their QBs while Mahomes runs for his goddamn life because we're playing a guard at left tackle in the goddamn Super Bowl.

Enough is enough with the penny pinching bullshit. We are not light years ahead of the rest of the league anymore, and that should be obvious to everyone. Hopefully, this will be the wake up call they need. Mahomes is amazing, but the league has changed in a big way.

We need a dynmaic RB and a good LT, along with a refreshing of our scheme, or this team is going to fade quickly.
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Didn't we lose our cap guy? Anyway I think it has been shown Hunt and Veach are also competitive pricks and won't stand still and do nothing. Veach tried to find a LT and made trades during the season to shore up positions. They aren't going to stand pat.
The cap isn't the problem, it's the cash. For example in just pure cash spending I believe the Eagles team on the field last night had 60 million more allocated dollars than the Chiefs did.
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