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Old 08-22-2024, 06:18 PM  
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Old 08-25-2024, 03:58 PM   #106
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It’s amazing that anyone criticizes this move. He’s an incredible pass blocking C.

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Old 12-11-2024, 02:22 PM   #110
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It’s amazing that anyone criticizes this move. He’s an incredible pass blocking C.

Centers don't typically allow many pressures anyway
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Old 12-11-2024, 02:49 PM   #111
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It’s amazing that anyone criticizes this move. He’s an incredible pass blocking C.

Using the same tweets I guess you can argue we should make Trey Smith the highest paid guard also.


There's just no rhyme or reason to give a center $50mil guaranteed when the position is so easily replaceable. We've proven it many times over. Hell we had Austin Reiter at center for 2 seasons and didn't miss a beat in 2019 and 2020.

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Old 12-11-2024, 03:14 PM   #112
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It’s amazing that anyone criticizes this move. He’s an incredible pass blocking C.

The question is not, and has never been, the player.

It's the position.

Creed is almost identical in Thuney in that regard. There's not a player at that position I'd rather have on this team than Joe Thuney.

The question is whether or not it matters all that much. Because BOTH of those guys are playing at/near their peaks and this OL is still struggling.

Meanwhile when we had Austin Reiter out there with better OT play, the OL looked much better as an aggregate.

So does paying the C, good as he is, really move the needle that much? And in a cap league, isn't that the most critical question? How much does the money you're spending really move things. Paying huge money to a a great player at a position of minimal impact isn't terribly dissimilar from playing huge money to an average player at a position of massive impact.

Would we be better with Caliendo at C and an average pass blocking OT making $18 million/season than we are with Morris at LT and an $18 million center? I'd say we probably would be.

It's not the player - it's the position.
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Ah - I see King has largely made this point...

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The question is not, and has never been, the player.

It's the position.

Creed is almost identical in Thuney in that regard. There's not a player at that position I'd rather have on this team than Joe Thuney.

The question is whether or not it matters all that much. Because BOTH of those guys are playing at/near their peaks and this OL is still struggling.

Meanwhile when we had Austin Reiter out there with better OT play, the OL looked much better as an aggregate.

So does paying the C, good as he is, really move the needle that much? And in a cap league, isn't that the most critical question? How much does the money you're spending really move things. Paying huge money to a a great player at a position of minimal impact isn't terribly dissimilar from playing huge money to an average player at a position of massive impact.

Would we be better with Caliendo at C and an average pass blocking OT making $18 million/season than we are with Morris at LT and an $18 million center? I'd say we probably would be.

It's not the player - it's the position.
Been saying this for a couple years now. This is the worst our line as looked over the course of a season and we decided to neglect LT and pay C.
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Been saying this for a couple years now. This is the worst our line as looked over the course of a season and we decided to neglect LT and pay C.
They didn't neglect LT.
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Trey Smith has not been good. He’s struggled in pass pro and many of us have noticed.

I don’t see that ever happening with Creed. It’s rare.
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In his defense, Trey Smith has been having a harder time now that Jawaan is next to him and always takes a deep passpro drop and causing Trey to handle outside heat as well as interior pressure.

Jawaan is more the problem than Trey.. IMO
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They didn't neglect LT.
Morris who was awful last year OR we roll with an unproven rookie.

What would you call it?
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The problem with that logic is what LT is out there that we could have purchased instead? The real issue is the scarcity of good players at the LT position.
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Been saying this for a couple years now. This is the worst our line as looked over the course of a season and we decided to neglect LT and pay C.
What LT was available to sign in FA? What good LT in the draft was available?
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