This Server, UGH

[Easy 6]

This is not a finger pointing thread, DaFace has been clear that he is hamstrung when this happens... but isn't it just weird AF that it never happens on some random Tuesday?

Nope, its ALWAYS gotta be a Saturday or Sunday

It's simply uncanny...

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Serious question. Is there a temp forum that we can go to like the old Downtime CP?

I spent the time death scrolling the discord server.... reading rabble nonchalantly pointing out several times how "we could all go to "The U"", and reading Baby Lee's ironic and completely random "mod from hell" rant.

I give it 4 clowns (that's out of 10).

[Graystoke]

I am all in to donate if needed. And I certainly appreciate this site and the time Mods and Administrators put into this.

[Pablo]

I thought scho was formerly a flooring salesman or something. Maybe that was somebody else but it stuck in my brain. He also slept at his office to save money on rent? Was that an IT gig or am I crazy?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

DaFace is the only mod with access to the database and 1) highly doubt he has access to fix anything at thay level, 2) he isn't even in IT and could probably walk circles around your IT adjacency, and 3) feel free to PM AC with your expert opinion of what's wrong, I'm sure he'd appreciate someone jumping in to fix this free thing you use on his dime.

From my perspective, the main issue is that we're on software that was written in 2008, and it's so old that we can't even be on the newer versions of PHP and MySQL, so even the backend kind of sucks.

It's compounded by the fact that it's really difficult to "right size" a server for our use case. It needs to be able to handle gameday traffic, but normal volume is only about 10% of that level, so we've got ad revenue* that's about 10% of what we'd need to support peak usage. So it's a lot of duct tape and bubble gum to keep us moving along.

But as you alluded to, I've never claimed to be some sort of IT guru. My only superpower is being willing to spend the time trying to fix things as best I can. AustinChief has far more knowledge than I do but far less time.

In the end, the "right" solution is almost certainly to move to a new server and new software, but 1) it's an astronomical amount of time to do that and 2) the "look and feel" of ChiefsPlanet would change dramatically in the process. We probably just need to rip off the bandaid, but that's easy to say when you're not the one who has to put the hours into it.

*As a note here, I don't actually have any visibility into our ad revenue and costs - that's all AustinChief's territory. I'm just guessing.

[scho63]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

DaFace is the only mod with access to the database and 1) highly doubt he has access to fix anything at thay level, 2) he isn't even in IT and could probably walk circles around your IT adjacency, and 3) feel free to PM AC with your expert opinion of what's wrong, I'm sure he'd appreciate someone jumping in to fix this free thing you use on his dime.

You can dish it out but you can't take it.

Crying like a whiny bitch.

[scho63]

Originally Posted by Pablo

I thought scho was formerly a flooring salesman or something. Maybe that was somebody else but it stuck in my brain. He also slept at his office to save money on rent? Was that an IT gig or am I crazy?

You have some parts correct and some mixed.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Pablo

I thought scho was formerly a flooring salesman or something. Maybe that was somebody else but it stuck in my brain. He also slept at his office to save money on rent? Was that an IT gig or am I crazy?

This floor is so nice, you can sleep on it

..that shit sells itself.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by DaFace

From my perspective, the main issue is that we're on software that was written in 2008, and it's so old that we can't even be on the newer versions of PHP and MySQL, so even the backend kind of sucks.

It's compounded by the fact that it's really difficult to "right size" a server for our use case. It needs to be able to handle gameday traffic, but normal volume is only about 10% of that level, so we've got ad revenue* that's about 10% of what we'd need to support peak usage. So it's a lot of duct tape and bubble gum to keep us moving along.

But as you alluded to, I've never claimed to be some sort of IT guru. My only superpower is being willing to spend the time trying to fix things as best I can. AustinChief has far more knowledge than I do but far less time.

In the end, the "right" solution is almost certainly to move to a new server and new software, but 1) it's an astronomical amount of time to do that and 2) the "look and feel" of ChiefsPlanet would change dramatically in the process. We probably just need to rip off the bandaid, but that's easy to say when you're not the one who has to put the hours into it.

*As a note here, I don't actually have any visibility into our ad revenue and costs - that's all AustinChief's territory. I'm just guessing.

I'll click on more ads if it means this place will never have the layout of TwoBillsDrive.

[scho63]

Is the server issue more a tech problem or money issue?

If its a money issue, how much?

Lets do a fund raiser.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Which link were you using? This is the best one at the moment:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/downtime_cp/

That said, it's been migrated twice (not by our choice) since I actually spent any time on it 10-15 years ago, so the interface isn't great.

Oh, it was ...... zvision or something like that. I can't remember what the link says. And, of course, I deleted it

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by DaFace

From my perspective, the main issue is that we're on software that was written in 2008, and it's so old that we can't even be on the newer versions of PHP and MySQL, so even the backend kind of sucks.

It's compounded by the fact that it's really difficult to "right size" a server for our use case. It needs to be able to handle gameday traffic, but normal volume is only about 10% of that level, so we've got ad revenue* that's about 10% of what we'd need to support peak usage. So it's a lot of duct tape and bubble gum to keep us moving along.

But as you alluded to, I've never claimed to be some sort of IT guru. My only superpower is being willing to spend the time trying to fix things as best I can. AustinChief has far more knowledge than I do but far less time.

In the end, the "right" solution is almost certainly to move to a new server and new software, but 1) it's an astronomical amount of time to do that and 2) the "look and feel" of ChiefsPlanet would change dramatically in the process. We probably just need to rip off the bandaid, but that's easy to say when you're not the one who has to put the hours into it.

*As a note here, I don't actually have any visibility into our ad revenue and costs - that's all AustinChief's territory. I'm just guessing.

DaFace,
I know it doesn't get said enough but I (and I'm sure many others) really appreciate what you (and Bearcat and others) do to keep us going.

This site is darn near a quarter century old. Crazy to think about it in that perspective.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Lzen

DaFace,
I know it doesn't get said enough but I (and I'm sure many others) really appreciate what you (and others) do to keep us going.

This site is darn near a quarter century old. Crazy to think about it in that perspective.

Yes, this. Thank you.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Oh, it was ...... zvision or something like that. I can't remember what the link says. And, of course, I deleted it

Yeah, that's what it was originally. They got bought out by some other group than then got bought out by Tapatalk.

If it seems like we're going into another era of frequent outages (which I'm optimistic isn't the case), I'll drop that link in the "down for maintenance" page so people can find it. Or if you just Google "Downtime Chiefsplanet," it'll be the first result.

[Indian Chief]

Originally Posted by scho63

Is the server issue more a tech problem or money issue?

If its a money issue, how much?

Lets do a fund raiser.

You're going to have to stop eating out for lunch.

[Zebedee DuBois]

Originally Posted by Lzen

DaFace,
I know it doesn't get said enough but I (and I'm sure many others) really appreciate what you (and Bearcat and others) do to keep us going.

This site is darn near a quarter century old. Crazy to think about it in that perspective.

I approve this message.

I also concur.