Patrick Mahomes isn't "broken" you ****ing dorks

[carcosa]

"broken" "abomination" "Rick Ankiel"

These are all words that people used to describe Patrick ****ing Mahomes tonight. I mean, are you listening to yourselves? Rick ****ING Ankiel?????

Look, I'm not going to pretend like he's been himself all year. He's not seeing the field as well as usual, he's struggling to trust his OL and occasionally scrambling out of clean pockets, he's missing some throws, some of those turnovers have actually been his fault and not just the receivers being unable to hold onto the ****in ball.

But all the wannabe psychologists and family therapists on this site are driving me up a ****ing wall. You don't know what the **** is going on in his head and you don't know what affect his family life has on his play.

What you DO know, based on a 3 season sample size, is that he's the greatest QB through ~50 games in NFL history. You know that he's won multiple comeback playoff games, two AFC titles, and a Super Bowl. You even know (or at least you ****ing should, unless you've been too busy moaning to actually read anything), that by most metrics he's actually been pretty good overall this season. His "turnover worthy" plays are actually DOWN from past years. He's #4 in the league in touchdowns. His TD% is identical to last season and higher that 2019. Before Tennessee, which is easily the biggest outlier of his career including the other "bad" games this season, he was leading one of the most efficient offenses of all time in terms of points per drive — yes, better than 2018. I know it doesn't feel that way because so many guys on this team (including, yes, Patrick himself on a few occasions) can't hold onto the ****ing ball. But that's the ****ing truth.

If he were moping during press conferences or lashing out on social media, I might give a little bit more credence to the narrative that he's moments away from a nervous breakdown. Not very much, but a little bit. But he's not. He's being honest (almost to a fault) about his role in the team's struggles and projecting confidence that he can turn it around. What more can he possibly do to convince some of you losers to hold onto a bit of that confidence yourselves? Does he need to go back in time and miraculously heal Schwartz and Fisher and win that Super Bowl? Should he just commit seppuku at midfield? What do you want??

Patrick Mahomes is not broken. He's slumping. Every QB slumps occasionally. Not every QB calls having the 4th best QBR (64.1) and 6th best EPA (46.3, just above the dreaded Aaron Rodgers) a ****ing slump. Personally, even after 8 underwhelming-to-miserable games and a 4-4 record, I'm gonna give the kid a little more leeway before calling for him to be committed to the god damn psych ward. I think he's earned at least that much.

[notorious]

Thank you, Carc!

I'm not making excuses, I Know what he's capable of. Bad bounces and dipshits getting hit in the head/hands with passes are messing with his groove.

HE WILL BE FINE. WE WILL BE FINE

[493rd]

He may not be broken, but he’s far from the guy he was even a year ago. Not sure what ails him but turning the ball over every game isn’t what $500M QBs do.

Next Gen stat of the game: Patrick Mahomes completed just 1 of 11 passes outside the tackle box, posting a 9.1 completion percentage on such attempts, the lowest in a game in his career.

NFL Research: Patrick Mahomes has thrown an interception in seven straight games. It is the longest streak in his high school, college or NFL career.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by 493rd

He may not be broken, but he’s far from the guy he was even a year ago. Not sure what ails him but turning the ball over every game isn’t what $500M QBs do.

Next Gen stat of the game: Patrick Mahomes completed just 1 of 11 passes outside the tackle box, posting a 9.1 completion percentage on such attempts, the lowest in a game in his career.

NFL Research: Patrick Mahomes has thrown an interception in seven straight games. It is the longest streak in his high school, college or NFL career.

The way he threw that pass at the end rolling left into mecoles feet, I don't know that he's fully recovered with toe surgery but he's powering through it. As the game goes on he's been thtowing balls low. Reminds me of the Houston and indy Houston game when he played on a bad ankle. Started out strong but started really missing passes as the game went on.

[RedRaider56]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Fun fact - Mahomes has 10 INTs so far this season. One less than he had the last two regular seasons combined.

and at least 4 of those were the fault of his receivers tipping the balls etc..

[KCUnited]

I'd say he's more like Ricky Vaughn right now.

Just give 'em the heater Ricky

[notorious]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The way he threw that pass at the end rolling left into mecoles feet, I don't know that he's fully recovered with toe surgery but he's powering through it. As the game goes on he's been thtowing balls low. Reminds me of the Houston and indy Houston game when he played on a bad ankle. Started out strong but started really missing passes as the game went on.

It's like he's trying to aim it instead of just throwing it.

[Mile High Mania]

I just think that Mahomes flipped your collective expectations of the QB upside down, thanks to that 5k/50TD entry into the NFL and the subsequent success in the last two years.

Mahomes (and the Chiefs) have rarely struggled, but when they have - Mahomes has always looked phenomenal. Therefore, there is this superman image with some and expectations are that he will never play poorly and he will play like this until he's 40.

At the end of the day, he's still on pace for another 4,800-5,000 yards passing with another 38-40 TDs. Stellar stuff, but they're not winning consistently or in a dominant fashion.

Don't forget there's really only 1 QB that has played his entire career and rarely disappointing ... Brady. Like it or not, the guy has been a model of consistency as his teams have only achieved fewer than 10 wins 1 time in 20 years... (19.5 really).

That's insane and it's not likely to happen too often in our lifetime. Enjoy the greatness of Mahomes. I know it's been a couple of years since you've seen your team struggle, but c'mon.

[DTVietnam]

Mahomes problem is early is the season he threw a few interceptions..some his fault..some through Tyreeks hands. .

and now he is playing scared . .great QBs dont play scared

he ran today and slid 5 yrds before the first down marker and there was noone around him...because he was scared he would fumble like last week. .this isnt the same Mahomes who cut in side and scored on the Titans

if he doesnt get his confidence back and if the coaches dont let him be him its going to be a sad case of wasted talent. .

one of his best attributes the past 3 years has been his poise and confidence. .

hes regressing

[Kman34]

16 throws behind the line of scrimmage last nite… The most by any QB in years… This has to be frustrating for him..

[treeguy27]

Mahomes is playing with a lack of confidence right now. It seems hard to believe based on his track record, but you can see his confidence is shaken. The low throws at guys feet, the intentional grounding last night and leaving clean pockets are signs he's just not as confident as usual. I'm sure he'll get his groove back, it's just going to be harder to do when the rest of the team continues to struggle all around him.

[MahomesMagic]

This isn't just Mahomes. Reid's offense looks out of step with what many NFL defenses are doing now.

We finally got adjusted too and we need to counter-punch.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by treeguy27

Mahomes is playing with a lack of confidence right now. It seems hard to believe based on his track record, but you can see his confidence is shaken. The low throws at guys feet, the intentional grounding last night and leaving clean pockets are signs he's just not as confident as usual. I'm sure he'll get his groove back, it's just going to be harder to do when the rest of the team continues to struggle all around him.

It's all hitting at once.

Mahomes has carried this team for a while now, and just when he needs a LITTLE help the team shits all over his face.

It's frustrating.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by notorious

It's all hitting at once.

Mahomes has carried this team for a while now, and just when he needs a LITTLE help the team shits all over his face.

It's frustrating.

Yup.

Both our offensive and defensive schemes went out of style AT THE SAME TIME.

Throw in the top heavy roster approach, lack of depth and then when you have a few injuries or guys half-assing it....you see the results.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Yup.

Both our offensive and defensive schemes went out of style AT THE SAME TIME.

Throw in the top heavy roster approach, lack of depth and then when you have a few injuries or guys half-assing it....you see the results.

Hell, I'm talking about the basics.

Catching the ball. That's it. Catch the ****ing football.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I just think that Mahomes flipped your collective expectations of the QB upside down, thanks to that 5k/50TD entry into the NFL and the subsequent success in the last two years.

Mahomes (and the Chiefs) have rarely struggled, but when they have - Mahomes has always looked phenomenal. Therefore, there is this superman image with some and expectations are that he will never play poorly and he will play like this until he's 40.

At the end of the day, he's still on pace for another 4,800-5,000 yards passing with another 38-40 TDs. Stellar stuff, but they're not winning consistently or in a dominant fashion.

Don't forget there's really only 1 QB that has played his entire career and rarely disappointing ... Brady. Like it or not, the guy has been a model of consistency as his teams have only achieved fewer than 10 wins 1 time in 20 years... (19.5 really).

That's insane and it's not likely to happen too often in our lifetime. Enjoy the greatness of Mahomes. I know it's been a couple of years since you've seen your team struggle, but c'mon.

That's the crazy thing and it shows why guys like Stafford and Matt Ryan and Dak can put up huge numbers despite not so great play. Anyone who's ever watched a Russell Wilson game knows its a lot of Alex Smith with a few sensational lightning bolts.

Not bad if this is his floor. But we all know something ain't right. And most of us, I would hope, know it's plenty fixable. Just a matter of when.