Geno Smith outplaying Mark Sanchez

[Hammock Parties]

Suck it, haters. Suck the choco-penii of destiny, feel it's power. It could have been ours.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/stor...-training-camp

CORTLAND, N.Y. -- Rookie Geno Smith has outplayed Mark Sanchez through the first week of training camp, pulling even or perhaps ahead in the New York Jets' quarterback competition.

"He can do more" than Sanchez, one veteran said Wednesday, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

It was Sanchez's turn to lead the starting unit and he struggled, throwing an interception for the second straight practice. Smith has yet to throw an interception in team drills over the first five practices.

It's premature to anoint a starter -- after all, they haven't begun live tackling -- but the early development is noteworthy because people close to the team expected Sanchez, based on his experience, to look sharper than Smith at the outset. That hasn't been the case.

"Everybody gets enamored with the guy who throws a 96 mph fastball," coach Rex Ryan said of Smith. To be politically correct, Ryan quickly added, "But Mark certainly has a good enough arm to play in this league."

It didn't sound like a ringing endorsement. Sanchez declined to say whether he believes he's leading the competition.

"I don't know, ask the coaches," he said. "I feel good, though. I feel confident. I feel like I'm playing really well."

Smith has sparkled with his accuracy, but he tends to hold the ball too long when facing pressure, according to Ryan. That, he said, "concerns me a little bit." The organization knows what it has in Sanchez, who was benched late last season.

Privately, the hope is that Smith can master the offense and seize the starting job. Even if he doesn't win it, Smith will be involved in the offense. Even though Tim Tebow is gone, Ryan said he remains committed to running the ball from the quarterback position.

He's intrigued by Smith's running ability, which would give the Jets a run-pass option at the quarterback position. Ryan acknowledged the plan, admitting last year's strategy under former coordinator Tony Sparano was ill-conceived. They never trusted Tebow to throw the ball. Whenever they used him, it usually was a read-option running play between the tackles.

"I think if that's the only thing you do with that position, why don't you just leave a running back in, a guy that's trained to do it?" Ryan said, second-guessing last season's approach. "If you're going to have a quarterback do it, like a (Colin) Kaepernick or somebody like that, it becomes more of a weapon because you know it's not just Tebow coming and he's going to run the ball. That's kind of where we were last year."

Ryan laughed when asked if he plans to use the Wildcat (or read-option) more than last year. Tebow finished with 32 rushes, averaging only 3.2 yards per carry.

"We probably will because, you guys say it, we never used it," he said. "So I would say, yeah, I think that will be part of what we do."

In the Wildcat, the ball is snapped to a nonquarterback. In those situations, the Jets can utilize wide receiver Jeremy Kerley or a running back, probably Bilal Powell. When Smith is on the field, either as the starter or a change-of-pace quarterback, they can employ the read-option.

The presence of new quarterbacks coach David Lee, one of the Wildcat innovators, is another reason the team is planning to use it. Sanchez said he could run the read-option, but there's little chance of that happening. His running ability will forever be linked to the "Butt Fumble," when he ran into a lineman's rear end last season.

Smith's athleticism could be a factor in the quarterback decision. Sanchez acknowledged that Smith is "very talented when it comes to that stuff. But I can't worry about it." Sanchez joked about the quarterback competition, mentioning that he sees more front-office types on the field for practice, scribbling notes during routine drills.

He said it reminds him of his rookie year in 2009, when he won the job against Kellen Clemens.

"For you (reporters), it's your job, but it's funny to see everybody else charting stuff," he said. "Everything is under scrutiny. There's a ton of pressure. That's the way you like it; that's the way you play this position."

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by BossChief

In today's NFL?

No

No, it doesn't.

Go back and look at the teams that spent high picks on linemen in the last 10 years.

The only ones that profited were the teams that got pass rushers or the occasional stud left tackle.

You know where you should draft linemen?

In rounds 2-7

Cause picking tackles in the first round never works out.

[Simply Red]

the two TrueFanDave posts 'early on' really made me laugh.

[007]

I just can't take these Geno threads any longer. Seriously, why do any of you even care what he does at this point. He isn't a Chief and most likely never will be. Far as I'm concerned, I hope he fails miserably because I can't stand the Jets.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Give me a playmaker or a player that can cancel out an opposing playmaker before a linemen all ****ing day.

Give me Dion Jordan, Tavon Austin, Dee Milliner, Patterson, EJ Manuel or Geno Smith over Eric Fisher, Luke Joeckel or chance Warmack ANYDAY.

Lets see how that holds up over the next few years, shall we.

OTs cancel out pass rushers....
Just sayin...

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Cochise

Cause picking tackles in the first round never works out.

It very rarely does.

I guess it depends on what you mean by "works out"

If you hit on a LT in the first, that doesn't mean your team is gonna be a perennial playoff team like it does if you hit on a QB pick.

Joe Thomas
Jake Long
Branden Albert
Eugene Monroe
Russel Okung

I mean, drafting a left tackle in the first isn't the worst choice IF YOU ALREADY HAVE A QUARTERBACK...if you don't, it's ALMOST like throwing money out the window.

[9er guy]

Originally Posted by BossChief

In today's NFL?

No

No, it doesn't.

Go back and look at the teams that spent high picks on linemen in the last 10 years.

The only ones that profited were the teams that got pass rushers or the occasional stud left tackle.

You know where you should draft linemen?

In rounds 2-7

Of the 28(+/- I've been drinking) lineman(Offensive and defensive) that were all-pro the last two seasons, 16 were first round picks. Not a staggering difference.

Numbers would suggest you could get a quality lineman outside the first if you have some guys that know what they're doing in the talent evaluation dept.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Guru

I just can't take these Geno threads any longer. Seriously, why do any of you even care what he does at this point. He isn't a Chief and most likely never will be. Far as I'm concerned, I hope he fails miserably because I can't stand the Jets.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Round 1 is for QBs, CBs, Pass rushers, wideouts and the occasional stud tight end or safety.

That's it.

That would push unworthy 2nd and even 3rd round prospects into the 1st.
Im sorry, but tackles matter. No matter how butt hurt everyone is over the fisher pick.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

OTs cancel out pass rushers....
Just sayin...

Sorry, but that's silly.

We already have/had Branden Albert and Fisher is getting thrown to the ground in 1 on 1 drills by scrub players that couldn't make the team on a 2 win team.

How many teams have two pass rushers that are both good enough that a team needs a top five pick to try and neutralize the opposing teams second best pass rusher?

Cordarelle Patterson will have more impact than Eric Fisher.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

nah, it still all starts up front.

It starts and ends at quarterback. Period.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by 9er guy

Of the 28(+/- I've been drinking) lineman(Offensive and defensive) that were all-pro the last two seasons, 16 were first round picks. Not a staggering difference.

Numbers would suggest you could get a quality lineman outside the first if you have some guys that know what they're doing in the talent evaluation dept.

Thats nearly 60%.
In one round.

[9er guy]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Joe Thomas
Jake Long
Branden Albert
Eugene Monroe
Russel Okung

Don't forget Joe Staley and Anthony Davis!

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

Carl Peterson ****ed this team so bad, the next regime had to start with BFF's. QB's still got clobbered here and it really hasn't stopped. No pocket, bad WR's.. this team was garbage when Carl was fired. two regimes later, we still don't know what we got on the lines. but it's a ****load better than Mcintosh, Adrian Jones, Rudy Nis- etc.. then on the other side -- Dorsey, Tank, Turk & Hali... this team was shit when Carl had it.

You are a clueless idiot.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

So the Chiefs, Eagles, Titans, Cardinals and Jaguars all ****ed up in 2013?

Drafting guards and right tackles in the top 10 is pretty ****ing stupid. Of course those teams are pretty much suck anyways when the Chiefs have the only Super Bowl championship out of them.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

That would push unworthy 2nd and even 3rd round prospects into the 1st.
Im sorry, but tackles matter. No matter how butt hurt everyone is over the fisher pick.

Not many here would have had a problem with the Fisher pick...if we didn't already have Albert.

Shit, I've said all along that I actually like Fisher.

He has the tools to be really good at his job...but the difference between he and Albert isn't the differences between wins and losses.