Dirty Politics - 24 year old Drunk Driving "Breaking News" on Bush - Page 8

milkman · 11-02-2000, 11:03 PM

I'm surprised none of our resident political types have started this, but its a slow night, so what the hell.

On the eve of the election, a Portland, Maine reporter broke the story that GW was arrested for drunk driving in 1976. This is, of course, the political equivalent of a brand new Ferrari for the liberal press, and they've got it red-lined already.

Thoughts on this:

1. Funny how this broke four days before the election. I'm sure the Gore camp had nothing to do with it... [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img]

2. IT WAS 24 YEARS AGO! It's not like the guy got crocked and plowed into a school bus last week.

3. The libs are painting this as a character issue, labeling GW a hypocrit for not disclosing this incident, yet railing on the moral indiscretions of Gore and Clinton. GW says he kept it quiet because he didn't want his kids to know about it. Hmm... it seems to me that the President of the United States lying under oath is a bit more damning that not disclosing that GW once got a DUI decades ago. Perhaps that's just me.

4. GW says he quit drinking 14 years ago.

5. Like the guy drives himself anywhere, anyway!

I hope the American public can see this for what it so obviously is - a timebomb Gore has known about, probably for months, that is dropped at the 11th hour in an attempt to salvage his mercifully-failing campaign. This is dirty politics at its worst. As a result of this, I support GW more strongly than ever now.

Devin Vierth · 11-03-2000, 02:50 PM

Titus,

Actually that was what I was talking about...

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bk

chiefsnathan · 11-03-2000, 02:56 PM

Johnny:

Spin it as you like. Anybody with an ounce of objectivity will see my point.

As for the Arkansas State Trooper allegations against Clinton, NONE of us have ever heard of a saintly cop stretching the truth. Why, it just doesn't happen.

11-03-2000, 02:59 PM

Now Drew's the bastion of objectivity? HAHA

That explains why your such an ardent backer of Clinton. You have about as much respect for the law as Clinton.

And, no I've never known a cop to stretch the truth, cops and presidents don't do that...

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[b]ChiefsPlanet Administrator</B>

Gracie Dean · 11-03-2000, 03:02 PM

And just what is your point? That its OK to lie, then when you get caught point your finger at those who hold you to the truth?

Wonder where you learned that.

11-03-2000, 03:03 PM

Drew,

As champion of objectivity and smiter of hypocrisy, I find it odd that you choose to refute my statement by calling the state troopers liars, instead of presenting evidence to vindicate Clinton.

Obviously, you can't because it doesn't exist. I suggest that you stop calling people hypocrites at this juncture, unless you would like to continue to look like an idiot.

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Parker
[b]ChiefsPlanet Administrator</B>

Devin Vierth · 11-03-2000, 03:03 PM

Cops and Presidents should be held to a higher standard.

Even if you take a look at Clinton's behavior in the ****e House, it has been dispicable......

ansonsdad · 11-03-2000, 03:07 PM

Donkey,
Tell me that you are not truely trying to defend this position. It is amazing that everyone around this guy is lying about him. How can you possibly defend a chronic liar?.

htismaqe · 11-03-2000, 03:08 PM

It's obvious to me why Drew defends the dishonesty we've seen from the White House/Gore campaign; he's one of them.

By that I mean he apparently shares the same moral values and ethics.

Drew, if I am mischaracterizing you I am sorry, but I am left with no other conclusion. You are welcome to correct me by stating exactly what specific lack of ethics Gore has that you don't.

Luz
or do you claim that Gore has no ethical problems???...<BR>

11-03-2000, 03:09 PM

Another reliable source told me that:
- the aspirin factory was full of mean-spirited Republicans
- and that Osama Bin Laden was recruited by the RNC to put Clinton in a compromising position!

Wow... I didn't know it was so bad...

chiefsnathan · 11-03-2000, 03:16 PM

Again, I'm left to ask: Why is it okay to say whatever you like about Clinton, but a reflection of substandard liberal morals to say whatever I like about Bush? I'm pretty comfortable that I'm safely on the proper side of hypocrisy here.

P.S. I don't know how many times I have to say that I'm not a Clinton supporter. I tend to favor Democrats, but Clinton lost me with the "I did not have sex with that woman..." statement. I'm simply playing a little Devil's Advocate here.

Gracie Dean · 11-03-2000, 03:16 PM

Luz - you're not wrong. He said he saw an arrest sheet for a second DUI. I asked Donkey to admit he had read it wrong, admit he was lying, or prove it.

He then said he'd HEARD someone talking about another arrest and decided to say he SAW an arrest sheet to prove a point.

You decide which of the three he chose.

chiefsnathan · 11-03-2000, 03:18 PM

Htis:

How do you prove a guy innocent of something when there isn't even the slightest evidence of guilt? Isn't the lack of proof of his guilt enough to prove his innocence?

Raiderhater · 11-03-2000, 03:20 PM

Cmon Drew, yesterday you were going on and on about the 'politics of destruction' and how bad the Republicans were for doing this.

Now that the shoe is on the other foot, you seem to condone it or revel in it. That's hypocrisy.

Gracie Dean · 11-03-2000, 03:21 PM

Go through the archives Donkey. Anything I've ever said about any candidate has either been completely, without question, backed up by the facts, or clearly an expression of my opinion.

Matter of fact, I have posted on numerous occasions that there are enough negative aspects to Clinton/Gore that are clear and established to render speculation frivolous.

ansonsdad · 11-03-2000, 03:22 PM

Donkey,
You should change your animal association to sheeple. You just continue down the road the AP has pointed you mocking those of us that question what we are being told. Even my freinds that are Demos are ashamed of what this administration has done to their party. Most of them also believe that there have been way too many coincidental suicides and timely deaths surrounding this guy to even attempt to defend him.

BIG DADDY
Finds it hard to have an intelligent conversation with someone with no ability to grasp of the obvious.

11-03-2000, 02:50 PM	#106
Devin Vierth Fanatical Conservative Beware! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Boise Idaho Casino cash: $10004900	Titus, Actually that was what I was talking about... ------------------ bk
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11-03-2000, 02:56 PM	#107
chiefsnathan Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	Johnny: Spin it as you like. Anybody with an ounce of objectivity will see my point. As for the Arkansas State Trooper allegations against Clinton, NONE of us have ever heard of a saintly cop stretching the truth. Why, it just doesn't happen.
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11-03-2000, 02:59 PM	#108
AustinChief Guest Casino cash: $	Now Drew's the bastion of objectivity? HAHA That explains why your such an ardent backer of Clinton. You have about as much respect for the law as Clinton. And, no I've never known a cop to stretch the truth, cops and presidents don't do that... ------------------ Parker [b]ChiefsPlanet Administrator</B>
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11-03-2000, 03:02 PM	#109
Gracie Dean MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	And just what is your point? That its OK to lie, then when you get caught point your finger at those who hold you to the truth? Wonder where you learned that.
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11-03-2000, 03:03 PM	#110
AustinChief Guest Casino cash: $	Drew, As champion of objectivity and smiter of hypocrisy, I find it odd that you choose to refute my statement by calling the state troopers liars, instead of presenting evidence to vindicate Clinton. Obviously, you can't because it doesn't exist. I suggest that you stop calling people hypocrites at this juncture, unless you would like to continue to look like an idiot. ------------------ Parker [b]ChiefsPlanet Administrator</B>
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11-02-2000, 11:03 PM
milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	I'm surprised none of our resident political types have started this, but its a slow night, so what the hell. On the eve of the election, a Portland, Maine reporter broke the story that GW was arrested for drunk driving in 1976. This is, of course, the political equivalent of a brand new Ferrari for the liberal press, and they've got it red-lined already. Thoughts on this: 1. Funny how this broke four days before the election. I'm sure the Gore camp had nothing to do with it... [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img] 2. IT WAS 24 YEARS AGO! It's not like the guy got crocked and plowed into a school bus last week. 3. The libs are painting this as a character issue, labeling GW a hypocrit for not disclosing this incident, yet railing on the moral indiscretions of Gore and Clinton. GW says he kept it quiet because he didn't want his kids to know about it. Hmm... it seems to me that the President of the United States lying under oath is a bit more damning that not disclosing that GW once got a DUI decades ago. Perhaps that's just me. 4. GW says he quit drinking 14 years ago. 5. Like the guy drives himself anywhere, anyway! I hope the American public can see this for what it so obviously is - a timebomb Gore has known about, probably for months, that is dropped at the 11th hour in an attempt to salvage his mercifully-failing campaign. This is dirty politics at its worst. As a result of this, I support GW more strongly than ever now.
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11-03-2000, 03:03 PM	#111
Devin Vierth Fanatical Conservative Beware! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Boise Idaho Casino cash: $10004900	Cops and Presidents should be held to a higher standard. Even if you take a look at Clinton's behavior in the ****e House, it has been dispicable......
Posts: 901

11-03-2000, 03:07 PM	#112
ansonsdad Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: SF NM Casino cash: $3384925	Donkey, Tell me that you are not truely trying to defend this position. It is amazing that everyone around this guy is lying about him. How can you possibly defend a chronic liar?.
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11-03-2000, 03:08 PM	#113
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8179900	It's obvious to me why Drew defends the dishonesty we've seen from the White House/Gore campaign; he's one of them. By that I mean he apparently shares the same moral values and ethics. Drew, if I am mischaracterizing you I am sorry, but I am left with no other conclusion. You are welcome to correct me by stating exactly what specific lack of ethics Gore has that you don't. Luz or do you claim that Gore has no ethical problems???...<BR>
Posts: 104,292

11-03-2000, 03:09 PM	#114
AustinChief Guest Casino cash: $	Another reliable source told me that: - the aspirin factory was full of mean-spirited Republicans - and that Osama Bin Laden was recruited by the RNC to put Clinton in a compromising position! Wow... I didn't know it was so bad...
Posts: n/a

11-03-2000, 03:16 PM	#115
chiefsnathan Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	Again, I'm left to ask: Why is it okay to say whatever you like about Clinton, but a reflection of substandard liberal morals to say whatever I like about Bush? I'm pretty comfortable that I'm safely on the proper side of hypocrisy here. P.S. I don't know how many times I have to say that I'm not a Clinton supporter. I tend to favor Democrats, but Clinton lost me with the "I did not have sex with that woman..." statement. I'm simply playing a little Devil's Advocate here.
Posts: 417

11-03-2000, 03:16 PM	#116
Gracie Dean MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Luz - you're not wrong. He said he saw an arrest sheet for a second DUI. I asked Donkey to admit he had read it wrong, admit he was lying, or prove it. He then said he'd HEARD someone talking about another arrest and decided to say he SAW an arrest sheet to prove a point. You decide which of the three he chose.
Posts: 12,955

11-03-2000, 03:18 PM	#117
chiefsnathan Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	Htis: How do you prove a guy innocent of something when there isn't even the slightest evidence of guilt? Isn't the lack of proof of his guilt enough to prove his innocence?
Posts: 417

11-03-2000, 03:20 PM	#118
Raiderhater Tried it on and it fit Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: A Webb of chaos Casino cash: $-1387979	Cmon Drew, yesterday you were going on and on about the 'politics of destruction' and how bad the Republicans were for doing this. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, you seem to condone it or revel in it. That's hypocrisy.
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11-03-2000, 03:21 PM	#119
Gracie Dean MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Go through the archives Donkey. Anything I've ever said about any candidate has either been completely, without question, backed up by the facts, or clearly an expression of my opinion. Matter of fact, I have posted on numerous occasions that there are enough negative aspects to Clinton/Gore that are clear and established to render speculation frivolous.
Posts: 12,955

11-03-2000, 03:22 PM	#120
ansonsdad Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: SF NM Casino cash: $3384925	Donkey, You should change your animal association to sheeple. You just continue down the road the AP has pointed you mocking those of us that question what we are being told. Even my freinds that are Demos are ashamed of what this administration has done to their party. Most of them also believe that there have been way too many coincidental suicides and timely deaths surrounding this guy to even attempt to defend him. BIG DADDY Finds it hard to have an intelligent conversation with someone with no ability to grasp of the obvious.
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