Chiefs Why are so many Chiefs fans against drafting a 1st round QB? - Page 8

Deberg_1990 · 02-04-2009, 08:31 PM

What is it??

Did Steve Fuller and Todd Blackledge ruin your childhood??

Let it go people. Its time....

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-05-2009, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Como is here to hit us with his wisdom..

Why am I not surprised to see the pimping of 2 big 12 spread monkeys?

I think the fan base is 50/50 on the QB position, just to many people desire to be the 90s team again.

Some will never want one they are the ones who last year ripped on Ryan and this year are taking the exact same argument and doing nothing more than replacing his name with the new prospects.

Then others just frankly don't understand because a guy plays in the Big 12 and you see all his games and he has a high completion percentage does not make him an awesome prospect when he's a spread monkey.

Alot guys into breaking this down, some people just don't realize it or really want to take that into account.

Yes Mecca, let us wait until next year so that we can have MULTIPLE scrubs to choose from!

There's just...just....there's NO image, video, poem, saying, or movie clip that can in any way accurately reflect the dumbassery of these people.

It's a whole new level. It's the Aurora spy plane of dumbassery. It's the warping of the space-time continuum of dumbassery. It's the larger than teleportation or time-travel........of dumbassery.

Fire.

Jump.

Die.

Repeat.

Fire.

Jump.

Die.

Repeat.

Fire.

Jump.

Die.

Repeat.

Coogs · 02-05-2009, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

Matter of fact, for the fan base, they probably should do it. Just to show how difficult it is to draft a franchise QB.

Your probably right. We shouldn't draft a QB because he might not pan out. Instead we should stay with drafting DT's early and often.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-05-2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Your probably right. We shouldn't draft a QB because he might not pan out. Instead we should stay with drafting DT's early and often.

KEEP SUCK ALIVE!

HC_Chief · 02-05-2009, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

The QB class is an execptionally weak one this season.

He passes it to the man, and boom goes the dynamite.

Chief Chief · 02-05-2009, 09:31 AM

Why I'm AGAINST it:

Brody Croyle will be an excellent QB if he's behind a quality O-line that will protect him (which means, of course, that his probability of getting injured will severely decrease). In the NE game last season, he was getting bumped around and knocked down quite a bit before suffering his shoulder injury. And his most recent injury was from being "sandwiched" by 2 very large defenders. Most QBs around the league would also have received similar injuries from the hits Brody's taken. Building up the O-line will provide him time to throw passes within all ranges, from short to long. And he does have the accuracy and arm to get the ball into the hands of his receivers way down the field.

Tyler Thigpen has shown that he's got the talent and skills to read defenses, make decisions, lead the team, make quality throws, and move the ball.

In short, both of the young QBs we currently have are serviceable at least and haven't themselves done anything so terrible to warrant being replaced or removed from the team.

Improving the O-line will also greatly enhance our running game. Priest and LJ had great running years when they ran behind Will Shields, Brian Waters, and Willie Roaf.

What has LJ accomplished since Shields and Roaf retired? Not much at all, unless you include his off-the-field ability to spit drinks.

I'd also have to say that improvement of our D-line will equally greatly enhance the overall quality of our defense.

So I would encourage Scott Pioli to trade down if possible to get an extra pick or two. But I believe the Chiefs need to pick up linemen and linebackers, with a secondary (well, OK then: pun intended) emphasis on cornerbacks and safeties. Another RB wouldn't hurt either.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-05-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Chief

Why I'm AGAINST it:

Brody Croyle

NO.

Coogs · 02-05-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Chief

Tyler Thigpen has shown that he's got the talent and skills to read defenses, make decisions, lead the team, make quality throws, and move the ball.

Some of these would have to be up for debate. Especially the quality throws. He badly overthrew some wide open receivers at times, and was way off target on some short to mid-range balls in several of the games in December. Probably the best thing about Thigpen was his ability to scramble and pick up yardage, but I'm not completely sold on that talent as being the one to biuld your offense around.

Crush · 02-05-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Chief

Tyler Thigpen has shown that he doesn't have the necessities to be a competent QB by never lining up under center, having poor foot work, and always throwing to Gonzalez in despite of the quadruple coverage.

FYP

CoMoChief · 02-05-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Como is here to hit us with his wisdom..

Why am I not surprised to see the pimping of 2 big 12 spread monkeys?

I think the fan base is 50/50 on the QB position, just to many people desire to be the 90s team again.

Some will never want one they are the ones who last year ripped on Ryan and this year are taking the exact same argument and doing nothing more than replacing his name with the new prospects.

Then others just frankly don't understand because a guy plays in the Big 12 and you see all his games and he has a high completion percentage does not make him an awesome prospect when he's a spread monkey.

Alot guys into breaking this down, some people just don't realize it or really want to take that into account.

Im not pimping the Big12 for shit. I just think Bradford is the best out of the QB's that came out this season. And Bradford can line up under center

rad · 02-05-2009, 11:16 AM

This is going to get used A LOT in the next couple months.....

**The Franchise** · 02-05-2009, 11:19 AM

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=115&f...to=MS_48731868

Look at this conversation. It amazes me that people are that stupid.

**DeezNutz** · 02-05-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Chief

Why I'm AGAINST it:

Brody Croyle will be an excellent QB if he's behind a quality O-line that will protect him (which means, of course, that his probability of getting injured will severely decrease). In the NE game last season, he was getting bumped around and knocked down quite a bit before suffering his shoulder injury. And his most recent injury was from being "sandwiched" by 2 very large defenders. Most QBs around the league would also have received similar injuries from the hits Brody's taken. Building up the O-line will provide him time to throw passes within all ranges, from short to long. And he does have the accuracy and arm to get the ball into the hands of his receivers way down the field.

I honestly didn't expect to see a serious Brodie Croyle argument on this forum ever again.

We can't put him in a bubble. The Secret Service cannot be hired to protect him.

It's over. The guy cannot stay healthy. Eventually, even behind 5 HOF linemen, QB's get hit. And Croyle will get hurt, again. And again. And again.

I'm sorry, but not all QB's get knocked out by the hit he took in NE. Croyle is listed at 206, which means he *might, MIGHT* be 200. I'd like see him take the same exact hit with 25 lbs. of additional muscle mass.

My guess, no serious injury.

Let's move on, folks. We're all entitled to our opinions, but...come on...

Let's stick to more meaningful discussions about Croyle. Like Mrs. Croyle and her hotness, for example.

rad · 02-05-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=115&f...to=MS_48731868

Look at this conversation. It amazes me that people are that stupid.

Is it the more of the same? I can't see what it is....I got banned some time ago.

**The Franchise** · 02-05-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rad

Is it the more of the same? I can't see what it is....I got banned some time ago.

I'll get some classic posts....hold on.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-05-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=115&f...to=MS_48731868

Look at this conversation. It amazes me that people are that stupid.

STRONG, the dipshit is at WPI.

02-04-2009, 08:31 PM
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Chief Chief Veteran Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City MO Casino cash: $10004900	Why I'm AGAINST it: Brody Croyle will be an excellent QB if he's behind a quality O-line that will protect him (which means, of course, that his probability of getting injured will severely decrease). In the NE game last season, he was getting bumped around and knocked down quite a bit before suffering his shoulder injury. And his most recent injury was from being "sandwiched" by 2 very large defenders. Most QBs around the league would also have received similar injuries from the hits Brody's taken. Building up the O-line will provide him time to throw passes within all ranges, from short to long. And he does have the accuracy and arm to get the ball into the hands of his receivers way down the field. Tyler Thigpen has shown that he's got the talent and skills to read defenses, make decisions, lead the team, make quality throws, and move the ball. In short, both of the young QBs we currently have are serviceable at least and haven't themselves done anything so terrible to warrant being replaced or removed from the team. Improving the O-line will also greatly enhance our running game. Priest and LJ had great running years when they ran behind Will Shields, Brian Waters, and Willie Roaf. What has LJ accomplished since Shields and Roaf retired? Not much at all, unless you include his off-the-field ability to spit drinks. I'd also have to say that improvement of our D-line will equally greatly enhance the overall quality of our defense. So I would encourage Scott Pioli to trade down if possible to get an extra pick or two. But I believe the Chiefs need to pick up linemen and linebackers, with a secondary (well, OK then: pun intended) emphasis on cornerbacks and safeties. Another RB wouldn't hurt either.
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