Keep fucking doubting Trent Green... - Page 8

11-17-2002, 03:03 PM

The title of the thread says it all....

fuck you doubters. He plays with heart, and he continues to get the job done. You people who bash Green, I don't even consider true fans. He plays his heart out every Sunday, and you continue to bash him...

Keep bashing him, I'll keep backing him.

philfree · 11-17-2002, 10:09 PM

In the NFL 60% completions is the benchmark. At least from everything I've ever heard coaches want their QBs to throw 60% or better. Trent did miss a TD today and hasn't thrown a TD for two games. Conversely he hasn't throw an INT for the last two games either. Trent took some hard hits today but he never got shook and and then he won the game on hobbled legs. He's earned my respect and I bet his team mates feel the same way.

PhilFree

tk13 · 11-17-2002, 10:11 PM

I really don't know what to think. It really all depends on what your expectations are of Trent... do you want him to be great or do you want to be just enough to get by? It's hard to really argue this with anyone because everyone has a different standard they hold him too, although I get the feeling that few feel that he's meeting that standard.

whoman69 · 11-17-2002, 11:22 PM

My problem with Trent is his inability to put the Chiefs in winning situations. When is too much success a good thing? When it comes too quickly. The offense was not giving the defense a chance in many games this year. Trent has not been able to control the clock even with the premier running back and tight end in football. That has left the defense on the field too long too often. Sort of like the Chargers used to do when they had Fouts as their QB. His job was to put point on the board, or so he thought. The job of the QB is to put more points on the board than the opponent and Fouts and now Green do not do that. When Trent has looked good, he looked very good. But look at his best game of the year against Miami. The game was up in the air 'til the last despite several Dolphin turnovers and a poor game by their QB and RB. The complaint last year when he was throwing all the INTs was that he had no receivers. This year when they have the receivers he cannot hit them. His completion percentage is a mirage of dumped off passes to Priest, who has yet to be able to run with the ball after catch as effectively as Faulk. At one point in the season his run average was higher than his per catch average.
Long and the short, Trent is not the man to lead us to the promised land I have been waiting for 32 years now.

11-17-2002, 11:24 PM

My problem is simply this. To come on this board at halftime, after the Defense was on the field for the entire first half, and the Pats having a 20 minute+ to 9 minute+ possession advantage, and still read that were losing because Trent Green is not doing his job is pathetic and ridiculous. You can throw up stat after stat over the last 5 games. Or the last 10 games for that matter. You can throw out statisitics and call them facts. But the fact of the whole matter is that Trent Green is the best QB we've had here in a long time. He carried the team today. You don't have to throw for 400+ yards, and 4 TD's to carry a team. I don't want you bashers to tell me Green's a great QB. I don't want you to tell me he's a good QB. All I want is for the people that say Green is a no talent bum, that he is mediocre at best, that he is a waste of a first round pick...Own up to the fact that he's more than that, and that he's had a very good year, and carried KC today. Every sports anchor and every coach knows that if our Defense was even mediocre, we would have a lot better record than 5-5. But to come on here at halftime after watching the Defense play as terrible as any defense I have seen play....And to still lay the blame on Green?? That's a little to much for me to take.

I've been a big Green fan since I read his life story. Then I met the guy, and I have never met a Pro Athlete that respectful, especially to youngsters. He's a solid leader on and off the field. I just don't see the fun in calling him a loser, TrINT, or any other stupid *** name when he busts his *** every Sunday, and is a standup guy. I just don't find the humor in it.

Taco John · 11-18-2002, 12:38 AM

Boy, your offense sure looked inept today for the little that I got to see... Amazing to see your defense keep you in this one... Congratulations.

I'll keep doubting Trent Green.

Taco

**RNR** · 11-18-2002, 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by Taco_John
Boy, your offense sure looked inept today for the little that I got to see... Amazing to see your defense keep you in this one... Congratulations.

I'll keep doubting Trent Green.

Taco

Whats up Taco I am surprised you have not lost the sig yet

btw that pic at the bottom is LOLF. where did you get it?

**Rain Man** · 11-18-2002, 12:50 AM

Green certainly played well today, and he's surpassed my hopes for the year. I'm a fan.

Taco John · 11-18-2002, 12:51 AM

Nice... I forgot i can change sigs now....

A Chiefs fan here found the pic... I just kiped it...

Logical · 11-18-2002, 12:53 AM

This thread is either the most pathetic or funniest thread I have read on this BB in a long time. Way to go folks!

11-18-2002, 09:06 AM

For some reason I'm reminded of the saturday night live skit where the porchHonky locks his wife in the oven...

For some reason...I'm guessing the local 5-0 is heading to a trailer park for a domestic disturbance.

The Defense gets credit for this win..Holding Buffalo to 16. Trent IS an average QB in my estimation...He did play hard yesterday, took some good shots and got back up.....But he also missed some passes to open WR.
I could list a dozen quarterbacks in the league that I think are more talented.

Being a nice guy, and stand up citizen doesn't complete a pass 20 yards down the field to a WR....

voyager · 11-18-2002, 09:34 AM

We must be realistic about this. The Chiefs' coaches have a leash on Green. They are not throwing the deep ball with Green...and for good reason.

Also, Buffalo is an average team with an average defense. Green should have performed even better in the game, and the Chiefs should have scored at least 24 pts. in the game. It is obvious the other teams are shutting down Gonzo, knowing that Kennison and Morton aren't going to hurt them badly. Green and the Chiefs need to score more points. They were fortunate to win the Buffalo game, and we all know it. For the most part, Green should be playing even better than what he has been this year.

Don't let this game confuse your sense of reality. You have to consider the teams the Chiefs are playing. The offense should be playing better than what it has been the last three or four weeks. The Chiefs have tough games remaining against San Diego, Denver, Oakland, and St. Louis. I don't think they will make the playoffs, and they will probably finish the season at 7-9 to 9-7. However, I do hope they prove me wrong.

voyager...the realist

NewChief · 11-18-2002, 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by voyager

voyager...the realist

Amusing, for a guy who spends the majority of his life fantasizing about what could have been or what might be in the draft.

KCChiefsMan · 11-18-2002, 09:45 AM

Green played really well yesterday, but our offense needs to be more efficient than it has been the last 3 weeks. We are more than capable of scoring more points, I think we were pretty conservative and we just weren't getting the job done on O. If our offense can come back to life AND our defense keeps this play up we will make the playoffs.

BigChiefFan · 11-18-2002, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by KCCh!efsMan
Green played really well yesterday, but our offense needs to be more efficient than it has been the last 3 weeks. We are more than capable of scoring more points, I think we were pretty conservative and we just weren't getting the job done on O. If our offense can come back to life AND our defense keeps this play up we will make the playoffs.

I agree,I wish we were scoring more points,but IMO,I believe the Chiefs played more conservatively yesterday to keep the D off of the field and to sway the time of possession to wear out the Bills.While I would definitely like to score alot more points,I do understand their approach to yesterday's second half.The Chiefs chose to run more clock on less possessions to help our D,rather than getting into a shoot-out with the Bills.It paid off.GO CHIEFS!!!!

**wazu** · 11-18-2002, 10:49 AM

fuck you ChiefsPride! TrINT Green SUCKS! He has no business being a starting QB! BENCH HIM NOW!

11-17-2002, 03:03 PM
ChiefsPride Guest Casino cash: $	Keep fucking doubting Trent Green... The title of the thread says it all.... fuck you doubters. He plays with heart, and he continues to get the job done. You people who bash Green, I don't even consider true fans. He plays his heart out every Sunday, and you continue to bash him... Keep bashing him, I'll keep backing him.
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11-17-2002, 10:09 PM	#106
philfree Indian Twitter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Free Agency Casino cash: $-533802	In the NFL 60% completions is the benchmark. At least from everything I've ever heard coaches want their QBs to throw 60% or better. Trent did miss a TD today and hasn't thrown a TD for two games. Conversely he hasn't throw an INT for the last two games either. Trent took some hard hits today but he never got shook and and then he won the game on hobbled legs. He's earned my respect and I bet his team mates feel the same way. PhilFree __________________ [/SIGPIC]
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11-17-2002, 10:11 PM	#107
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-177500	I really don't know what to think. It really all depends on what your expectations are of Trent... do you want him to be great or do you want to be just enough to get by? It's hard to really argue this with anyone because everyone has a different standard they hold him too, although I get the feeling that few feel that he's meeting that standard.
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11-17-2002, 11:22 PM	#108
whoman69 The Master Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Marion, IA Casino cash: $10004925	My problem with Trent is his inability to put the Chiefs in winning situations. When is too much success a good thing? When it comes too quickly. The offense was not giving the defense a chance in many games this year. Trent has not been able to control the clock even with the premier running back and tight end in football. That has left the defense on the field too long too often. Sort of like the Chargers used to do when they had Fouts as their QB. His job was to put point on the board, or so he thought. The job of the QB is to put more points on the board than the opponent and Fouts and now Green do not do that. When Trent has looked good, he looked very good. But look at his best game of the year against Miami. The game was up in the air 'til the last despite several Dolphin turnovers and a poor game by their QB and RB. The complaint last year when he was throwing all the INTs was that he had no receivers. This year when they have the receivers he cannot hit them. His completion percentage is a mirage of dumped off passes to Priest, who has yet to be able to run with the ball after catch as effectively as Faulk. At one point in the season his run average was higher than his per catch average. Long and the short, Trent is not the man to lead us to the promised land I have been waiting for 32 years now.
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11-17-2002, 11:24 PM	#109
ChiefsPride Guest Casino cash: $	My problem is simply this. To come on this board at halftime, after the Defense was on the field for the entire first half, and the Pats having a 20 minute+ to 9 minute+ possession advantage, and still read that were losing because Trent Green is not doing his job is pathetic and ridiculous. You can throw up stat after stat over the last 5 games. Or the last 10 games for that matter. You can throw out statisitics and call them facts. But the fact of the whole matter is that Trent Green is the best QB we've had here in a long time. He carried the team today. You don't have to throw for 400+ yards, and 4 TD's to carry a team. I don't want you bashers to tell me Green's a great QB. I don't want you to tell me he's a good QB. All I want is for the people that say Green is a no talent bum, that he is mediocre at best, that he is a waste of a first round pick...Own up to the fact that he's more than that, and that he's had a very good year, and carried KC today. Every sports anchor and every coach knows that if our Defense was even mediocre, we would have a lot better record than 5-5. But to come on here at halftime after watching the Defense play as terrible as any defense I have seen play....And to still lay the blame on Green?? That's a little to much for me to take. I've been a big Green fan since I read his life story. Then I met the guy, and I have never met a Pro Athlete that respectful, especially to youngsters. He's a solid leader on and off the field. I just don't see the fun in calling him a loser, TrINT, or any other stupid * name when he busts his * every Sunday, and is a standup guy. I just don't find the humor in it.
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11-18-2002, 12:38 AM	#110
Taco John Sapere Aude Join Date: Jun 2001 Casino cash: $1677937	Boy, your offense sure looked inept today for the little that I got to see... Amazing to see your defense keep you in this one... Congratulations. I'll keep doubting Trent Green. Taco __________________ Ehyeh asher ehyeh. Donger's Razor: "The most establishment-friendly explanation that gives leftist and neocon politicians the most amount of cover is the only possible explanation, even when gaping holes and leaps of logic are required to get there."
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11-18-2002, 12:50 AM	#112
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1129936 VARSITY	Green certainly played well today, and he's surpassed my hopes for the year. I'm a fan. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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11-18-2002, 12:51 AM	#113
Taco John Sapere Aude Join Date: Jun 2001 Casino cash: $1677937	Nice... I forgot i can change sigs now.... A Chiefs fan here found the pic... I just kiped it... __________________ Ehyeh asher ehyeh. Donger's Razor: "The most establishment-friendly explanation that gives leftist and neocon politicians the most amount of cover is the only possible explanation, even when gaping holes and leaps of logic are required to get there."
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11-18-2002, 12:53 AM	#114
Logical Screw U if U can't take a joke Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	This thread is either the most pathetic or funniest thread I have read on this BB in a long time. Way to go folks!
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11-18-2002, 09:06 AM	#115
Iowanian Guest Casino cash: $	387 and Bush I've got him at gunpoint.....387 and Bush, covers, code 3..boopboop For some reason I'm reminded of the saturday night live skit where the porchHonky locks his wife in the oven... For some reason...I'm guessing the local 5-0 is heading to a trailer park for a domestic disturbance. The Defense gets credit for this win..Holding Buffalo to 16. Trent IS an average QB in my estimation...He did play hard yesterday, took some good shots and got back up.....But he also missed some passes to open WR. I could list a dozen quarterbacks in the league that I think are more talented. Being a nice guy, and stand up citizen doesn't complete a pass 20 yards down the field to a WR....
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11-18-2002, 09:34 AM	#116
voyager Go Chiefs! Join Date: Apr 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	We must be realistic about this. The Chiefs' coaches have a leash on Green. They are not throwing the deep ball with Green...and for good reason. Also, Buffalo is an average team with an average defense. Green should have performed even better in the game, and the Chiefs should have scored at least 24 pts. in the game. It is obvious the other teams are shutting down Gonzo, knowing that Kennison and Morton aren't going to hurt them badly. Green and the Chiefs need to score more points. They were fortunate to win the Buffalo game, and we all know it. For the most part, Green should be playing even better than what he has been this year. Don't let this game confuse your sense of reality. You have to consider the teams the Chiefs are playing. The offense should be playing better than what it has been the last three or four weeks. The Chiefs have tough games remaining against San Diego, Denver, Oakland, and St. Louis. I don't think they will make the playoffs, and they will probably finish the season at 7-9 to 9-7. However, I do hope they prove me wrong. voyager...the realist
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11-18-2002, 09:45 AM	#118
KCChiefsMan AIC Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: West Roxbury, MA Casino cash: $10004900	Green played really well yesterday, but our offense needs to be more efficient than it has been the last 3 weeks. We are more than capable of scoring more points, I think we were pretty conservative and we just weren't getting the job done on O. If our offense can come back to life AND our defense keeps this play up we will make the playoffs.
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11-18-2002, 10:49 AM	#120
wazu ... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $22295 VARSITY	fuck you ChiefsPride! TrINT Green SUCKS! He has no business being a starting QB! BENCH HIM NOW!
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