Caleb Williams is destined to be a massive bust

[penguinz]

BREAKING: USC QB Caleb Williams has DECLINED to medical examinations with teams at the Combine and did not sign off on having his medical records shared
with all teams.

Williams is believed to be the first combine invitee ever to decline an examination, per CBS. pic.twitter.com/ipHqfxNBYJ

— MLFootball (@_MLFootball) March 1, 2024

[Mecca]

It's criminal they thought they could have Eberflus as their HC with a #1pick QB.

[RunKC]

It’s astonishing that this guy is actually doing as well as he is considering the lack of talent at OL and coaching.

They are poorly coached across the board: yesterday was the offense, ST’s lost them a last second FG bc of a Packers block and the defense gave up an inexcusable Hail Mary.

They need to clean house and go after a good coach

[chiefzilla1501]

I don’t buy it. It all reads as excuses to me.

Caleb could have called a timeout and not getting the play in time is a perfectly good excuse for it. If they couldn’t get the play in on time then quick snap and run forward for a few yards to set up a long but makeable FG. After the offense is set don’t stand there for 5 seconds diagnosing the line when every second matters. It was a 58 yard field goal in a dome. I’d take that every day over a prayer deep ball

The coaches are of course incompetent. Not a single person thinks flus should still be there. But this to me reads like throwing his coaches under the bus. It was still idiotic by the qb even if it does justify his actions just a tad bit more.

[RealSNR]

Ryan Poles had a bad draft or two when he started. Then he had a pretty good offseason aided by this #1 pick.

But he needs to be held accountable for his horrible head coach selection and retention decision.

Did Poles and Eberflus know each other in college or some shit? It feels like they're best buddies and that's why Poles made a pretty irresponsible choice not to pivot to somebody else.

It's one reason why I don't want Nagy as Reid's successor. I don't want Veach to feel like he owes his head coach any loyalty. Hopefully Clark makes the responsible move for the whole team and does a thorough search outside the organization.

[RedinTexas]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don’t buy it. It all reads as excuses to me.

Caleb could have called a timeout and not getting the play in time is a perfectly good excuse for it. If they couldn’t get the play in on time then quick snap and run forward for a few yards to set up a long but makeable FG. After the offense is set don’t stand there for 5 seconds diagnosing the line when every second matters. It was a 58 yard field goal in a dome. I’d take that every day over a prayer deep ball

The coaches are of course incompetent. Not a single person thinks flus should still be there. But this to me reads like throwing his coaches under the bus. It was still idiotic by the qb even if it does justify his actions just a tad bit more.

I disagree that it's all on Williams there. It's the head coach that makes these decisions and the head coach can call timeout himself if he wants it. Furthermore, they have radio contact into the QBs helmet, so if they want the timeout, they can tell the QB to call it. I know they stop the ability to transmit into the helmet at some point, but it has to start at some point after the end of the previous play.

The head coach is communicating with his coaches in the booth too, and that is two-way communication. My bet is that the head coach was saying not to use the last timeout because they would need it and that message was received by Williams.

I don't think Williams is anywhere close to being a "great" QB right now, but I can't place blame for this on anyone but the coach.

[RunKC]

Coaching and situation is everything in this league and there are countless examples of that.

Why do you think Bo Nix looks better than he is? Sam Darnold was a disaster early on but now he looks really good with O’Connell. Baker was a bust 2 years ago but now he’s a very good QB. Same with Jared Goff.

The Bears need to do whatever possible to get Ben Johnson, Slowik Jr or any offensive innovator hired to help this kid.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Pablo

Of course. He gets the rookie excuse but do any of us believe a rookie Pat lets that shit happen?? That’s high school bullshit there

Pat would not have done that as a rookie. This is not some rare situation that only happens in the NFL. If Caleb has never been in a hurry up situation from pee wee football through college then the rookie excuse works. But I’m pretty sure he has been in those situations before and blundered here.

[RedinTexas]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Coaching and situation is everything in this league and there are countless examples of that.

Why do you think Bo Nix looks better than he is? Sam Darnold was a disaster early on but now he looks really good with O’Connell. Baker was a bust 2 years ago but now he’s a very good QB. Same with Jared Goff.

The Bears need to do whatever possible to get Ben Johnson, Slowik Jr or any offensive innovator hired to help this kid.

I agree. One of the points I meant to make above is that coaches are in the positions they are in because they supposedly have the experience and detachment to handle decisions like those rather than your ROOKIE QB. If the head coach and the rest of the coaching staff are so caught up in the moment that they couldn't handle the end-of-game situation with time running out, then they should be replaced with a staff that is capable of doing that.

ETA - It is truly incredible to see Eberflus is saying that he thinks they handled that situation the right way. A coach that stupid really needs to be fired. When I was flying in the Air Force we had dumbass moments happen too. When called by air traffic control to find out what the hell we were doing, we'd reply "training in progress." Everyone knew you were screwing up and it was a way to admit doing so. Obviously Eberflus is unwilling even to admit that they made a mistake.

[ChiefsCountry]

Eberflus defense cost Mizzou a national championship shot in 2007

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by RedinTexas

I disagree that it's all on Williams there. It's the head coach that makes these decisions and the head coach can call timeout himself if he wants it. Furthermore, they have radio contact into the QBs helmet, so if they want the timeout, they can tell the QB to call it. I know they stop the ability to transmit into the helmet at some point, but it has to start at some point after the end of the previous play.

The head coach is communicating with his coaches in the booth too, and that is two-way communication. My bet is that the head coach was saying not to use the last timeout because they would need it and that message was received by Williams.

I don't think Williams is anywhere close to being a "great" QB right now, but I can't place blame for this on anyone but the coach.

Flus is a terrible coach and I don’t think anyone is disputing that and that he predictably handled it terribly. Everyone knows he should have been gone long ago so this is expected. Caleb on the other hand will be there next year. He had multiple ways he could have overcome flus’ stupidity by not doing stupid things himself. His presser reads to me like a guy who wants to act like he’s a great coachable player who doesn’t undermine his coaches while at the same time throwing them under the bus.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Pat would not have done that as a rookie. This is not some rare situation that only happens in the NFL. If Caleb has never been in a hurry up situation from pee wee football through college then the rookie excuse works. But I’m pretty sure he has been in those situations before and blundered here.

Yup and keep in mind we were really really terrible at getting plays relayed to mahomes early in his career. We’ve all seen it before where he calls timeout then shows his frustration.

But even outside that…Pat would’ve been sprinting to the line and hustling everyone to line up. He wouldn’t take five seconds to diagnose the defense for some weird reason. I also really doubt he’d audible to a td play when they were technically in field goal range. We saw Mahomes make tons of these really smart “instinct” decisions even early in his career

[PatMahomesIsGod]

I’m shocked they gave Eberflus another QB to attempt to ruin.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Ryan Poles had a bad draft or two when he started. Then he had a pretty good offseason aided by this #1 pick.

But he needs to be held accountable for his horrible head coach selection and retention decision.

Did Poles and Eberflus know each other in college or some shit? It feels like they're best buddies and that's why Poles made a pretty irresponsible choice not to pivot to somebody else.

It's one reason why I don't want Nagy as Reid's successor. I don't want Veach to feel like he owes his head coach any loyalty. Hopefully Clark makes the responsible move for the whole team and does a thorough search outside the organization.

I think poles gets a pass here. The owner is too cheap to buy out flus. Because there is zero explanation for why he wasn’t canned midseason. Poles made the bad decision to hire him but the ownership most likely didn’t give him a chance to get rid of him.

[louie aguiar]

And he’s fired

[chiefzilla1501]

Caleb didn’t want to undermine his coaches by calling a timeout. So he threw out the coach’s playcall and drew up his own TD play. Yeah that doesn’t add up to me.