2024 WR Class

[Couch-Potato]

Some interesting WRs in the upcoming class, who do you like?

1st - 2nd RD WR Targets:

Keon Coleman, FSU, 6-4, 215, 4.6
Emeka Egbuka, OH ST, 6-1, 205, 4.3
Adonai Mitchell, TX, 6-4, 195, 4.5
Troy Franklin, ORG, 6-3, 185, 4.41
Xavier Legette, SC, 6-1, 225, 4.29
Brian Thomas, LSU, 6-4, 205, 4.35
Xavier Worthy, TX, 6-1, 175, 4.22
Ja'Lynn Polk, WAS, 6-2, 205, 4.48
Johnny Wilson, FSU, 6-7, 235, 4.42
Branden Rice, USC, 6-3, 210, 4.38
Malachi Corley, WKU, 5-11, 200, 4.46
Jermain Burton, BAMA, 6-0, 195, 4.31

*This entire class is tall WTF?

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Oh I would love Franklin too. 6'2"-6'3", 180-190 pounds, rumored to run a 4.35 40 time, and he's not a one year wonder. It'd be nice to get him close to 200 pounds. He produced in pretty much every single game this past year and was extremely consistent.

There are just so many WRs in this year's class that we have to walk away with one of the top guys. I'm so excited for this year's draft.

MVS 6'4''

4.37 40

And he's not a weak rail like Franklin.

[kcbubb]

I get it. WR is a sexy and exciting pick. Guys like Franklin or whoever might be available in the first round but I just don’t see it happening. We’ve won two super bowls with sub par WRs. And now we finally have a good wr in rashee rice. I don’t see us taking a wr in round one with the holes we have on the oline and dline. And considering the depth in this draft at wr, why rush it? A quality wr will be available with our 2nd round pick and maybe with our third. Somebody has to fall.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

MVS 6'4''

4.37 40

And he's not a weak rail like Franklin.

How big is Tank Dell?

Zay Flowers?

It's obvious that you prefer size. You like Mitchell, Thomas Jr., etc., while you don't like Franklin, Worthy, etc.

That's fine and all, but in today's NFL, you don't need it.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

I get it. WR is a sexy and exciting pick. Guys like Franklin or whoever might be available in the first round but I just don’t see it happening. We’ve won two super bowls with sub par WRs. And now we finally have a good wr in rashee rice. I don’t see us taking a wr in round one with the holes we have on the oline and dline. And considering the depth in this draft at wr, why rush it? A quality wr will be available with our 2nd round pick and maybe with our third. Somebody has to fall.

There are probably 3-4 people on CP that think we have to take one in round 1. Most of us are fine waiting until round 2. This class is very deep.

[staylor26]

Impressive for a "weak rail":

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— Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) November 29, 2023

[Abba-Dabba]

Franklin's contested catch rate is somewhat disappointing. His frame is a little light and paired with his contested catch rate may point to him struggling with stronger NFL DB's. It's not Xavier Worthy low, but it something to note.

And I can't stop calling him Tony.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by staylor26

How big is Tank Dell?

Zay Flowers?

It's obvious that you prefer size. You like Mitchell, Thomas Jr., etc., while you don't like Franklin, Worthy, etc.

That's fine and all, but in today's NFL, you don't need it.

Yeah, bigger is better unless there is a constellation of traits that are WOW.

Franklin is a good player but not exciting me.

I'll just say right now that the WR after the first 4 that are expected to go that I am looking at is Adonai.

I want upside.

[staylor26]

Most people tend to see elite speed and HR ability and think that's WOW...

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Most people tend to see elite speed and HR ability and think that's WOW...

Does MVS wow you?

He is much bigger than Franklin and just as fast.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Does MVS wow you?

He is much bigger than Franklin and just as fast.

Funny how you can't see Franklin's speed translating on the field when it clearly does, but you don't see that MVS doesn't look like a 4.3 guy on the field. MVS is a 4.37 guy that looks like a 4.4 guy on the field. Franklin looks significantly faster on the field.

Also, there are 6'3"+ guys that run in the 4.3s that are much better than MVS. Just because there's a comparison to be made in terms of height and 40 doesn't mean that Franklin literally is MVS.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Funny how you can't see Franklin's speed translating on the field when it clearly does, but you don't see that MVS doesn't look like a 4.3 guy on the field. MVS is a 4.37 guy that looks like a 4.4 guy on the field. Franklin looks significantly faster on the field.

Also, there are 6'3"+ guys that run in the 4.3s that are much better than MVS. Just because there's a comparison to be made in terms of height and 40 doesn't mean that Franklin literally is MVS.

Wait, so now you are arguing that MVS isn't fast but Franklin is?!

You spent pages screaming that it's just the 40 time, that's all that counts and now you are saying this.

Please explain how Franklin is faster. Unless he runs a 4.2 40 this makes no sense.

[JohnnyV13]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

What's up with this guy Johnny Wilson!? Has any NFL skill player ever been successful at 6-7!?

At first glance he's a lot taller than Drake London or A.T. Perry, who were drafted in recent years, and is far more complete of a WR than Perry who no one's heard from since the draft. Dude's fast too!? WTF?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GZ83KRsMkk

Philadelphia HOF WR Harold Carmichael was 6'8" 228. He paired with speedy 5'9" Harold Jackson to give the Eagles a terrific tandem in the 70's to early 80's. His last big season was 1981 when future Chiefs qb Ron Jaworski took the Eagles to the SB vs. the Raiders.

Receiving & Rushing Table

					Game	Rece	Rece	Rece	Rece	Rece
Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	GS	Rec	Yds	Y/R	TD	Lng	AV	Awards
1971	22	PHI	TE	17	6	20	288	14.4	0	50	3
1972	23	PHI	WR	17	2	20	276	13.8	2	54	2
1973*	24	PHI	WR	17	14	67	1116	16.7	9	73	14	PB
1974	25	PHI	WR	17	14	56	649	11.6	8	39	8
1975	26	PHI	WR	17	13	49	639	13.0	7	62	6
1976	27	PHI	WR	17	14	42	503	12.0	5	24	5
1977	28	PHI	WR	17	14	46	665	14.5	7	50	8
1978*	29	PHI	WR	17	16	55	1072	19.5	8	56	12	PB
1979*	30	PHI	WR	17	16	52	872	16.8	11	50	10	AP MVP-6, AP2, PB
1980*	31	PHI	WR	17	16	48	815	17.0	9	56	9	PB
1981	32	PHI	WR	17	16	61	1028	16.9	6	85	11
1982	33	PHI	WR	17	8	35	540	15.4	4	46	9
1983	34	PHI	WR	17	11	38	515	13.6	3	35	4
1984	35	DAL	WR	17	0	1	7	7.0	0	7	0
Care	Care				160	590	8985	15.2	79	85	101
13 y	13 y	PHI			160	589	8978	15.2	79	85	101
1 yr	1 yr	DAL			0	1	7	7.0	0	7	0

Provided by Pro-Football-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 2/24/2024.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Wait, so now you are arguing that MVS isn't fast but Franklin is?!

You spent pages screaming that it's just the 40 time, that's all that counts and now you are saying this.

Please explain how Franklin is faster. Unless he runs a 4.2 40 this makes no sense.

News flash: Franklin doesn't have a 40 time yet, at least not one that I've seen or is official/reliable. As I already pointed out, that's why you saying his speed doesn't translate on the field makes no sense. How would you even know what he times?

Everything I've said about Franklin's speed is based on what I've seen on the field. His speed is obvious when you watch him play. He looks like a guy that should run in the low 4.3s, but when I talk about his speed, I'm talking about what I've seen on the field.

MVS has never looked 4.3 fast to me, and considering he's barely in the 4.3s, I don't think it's a stretch to say he looked more like a guy that runs in the 4.4s.

I posted this in another thread, but I'll post it in here too:

College WR Prospect with +3.10 YPRR for 20 year old season, over 6'0, with round 1-2 draft capital:
(since 2018)

Devonta Smith
CeeDee Lamb
Jerry Jeudy
A.J. Brown
Tee Higgins
Jameson Williams
Drake London
Troy Franklin

That's pretty good ****ing company.

MVS's best season was as a 5th year senior when he had 879 yards and 6 TDs (before that he never even had 500 yards). Franklin had better numbers than that as a 19 year old ****ing sophomore.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by staylor26

News flash: Franklin doesn't have a 40 time yet, at least not one that I've seen or is official/reliable. As I already pointed out, that's why you saying his speed doesn't translate on the field makes no sense. How would you even know what he times?

Everything I've said about Franklin's speed is based on what I've seen on the field. His speed is obvious when you watch him play. He looks like a guy that should run in the low 4.3s, but when I talk about his speed, I'm talking about what I've seen on the field.

MVS has never looked 4.3 fast to me, and considering he's barely in the 4.3s, I don't think it's a stretch to say he looked more like a guy that runs in the 4.4s.

I posted this in another thread, but I'll post it in here too:




That's pretty good ****ing company.

MVS's best season was as a 5th year senior when he had 879 yards and 6 TDs (before that he never even had 500 yards). Franklin had better numbers than that as a 19 year old ****ing sophomore.

College WR Prospect with +3.10 YPRR for 20 year old season, over 6'0, with round 1-2 draft capital:
(since 2018)

Devonta Smith
CeeDee Lamb
Jerry Jeudy
A.J. Brown
Tee Higgins
Jameson Williams
Drake London
Troy Franklin


That's a nice list.

The problem is that almost every player on it is a much better route runner and better at catching the ball.

Maybe the comp could be Jamo who most on this board loved.

Right now he is a useful player who serves a role in Detroit and that is running down the field and clearing space for Sun God and La Porta.

That's what I expect Franklin to be in the NFL. A fancy decoy that is low volume.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

College WR Prospect with +3.10 YPRR for 20 year old season, over 6'0, with round 1-2 draft capital:
(since 2018)

Devonta Smith
CeeDee Lamb
Jerry Jeudy
A.J. Brown
Tee Higgins
Jameson Williams
Drake London
Troy Franklin


That's a nice list.

The problem is that almost every player on it is a much better route runner and better at catching the ball.

Maybe the comp could be Jamo who most on this board loved.

Right now he is a useful player who serves a role in Detroit and that is running down the field and clearing space for Sun God and La Porta.

That's what I expect Franklin to be in the NFL. A fancy decoy that is low volume.

Jameson Williams was essentially a rookie this year. The book on him isn't even closed to finished, but since he's the one outlier you can point to, of course you're going to be dismissive of what being on that list says about Franklin.