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Dante84 · 09:40 AM

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Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!

**BossChief** · 06-05-2018, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

Well then this whole discussion of it being an unnecessary pass can go out the window.

But the play-by-play doesn't say that.

And it's actually just flat out not true.

The film review I linked in the post says Miller was offsides and pat checked the ref to make sure there was a flag.

KCrockaholic · 06-05-2018, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

The film review I linked in the post says Miller was offsides and pat checked the ref to make sure there was a flag.

Maybe Pat thought Miller was, but he wasn't and there wasn't a flag.

BleedingRed · 06-05-2018, 10:06 AM

I thought this would be fun to Catalog what Patrick Mahomes gets to work with in with Stats/Video (Have time to kill at work before meeting)I apologize for videos "Music Choice".................

Travis Kelce

Sammy Watkins

Tyreek Hill

Kareem Hunt

So for those who are keeping count...........

(Whole Group Together)
Receiving Yards = 9,183
Touch Downs = 77
Average Yard Per Catch = 12.57
Yards Per Game = 298.9

Awards

Pro-Bowls = 6
1st Team All-Pro = 2
2nd Team All-Pro = 1
PFWA All-Rookie Team = 2
NFL Rushing Champ = 1

Please keep in mind this whole groups average age is 24.5

And they only have 11 Seasons in the NFL if you add them all together!

Super Excited to see this young core together for as long as possible!

Halfcan · 06-05-2018, 10:15 AM

Excellent post ^

Best22 · 06-05-2018, 10:27 AM

And they all have legit experience

WhiteWhale · 06-05-2018, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach

I look at of Mahomes as a Randall Cunningham type of a player instead of a Favre.

I don't see it at all.

Naptown Chief · 06-05-2018, 10:54 AM

I look at Mahomes as...Mahomes. As someone primed to take the league by storm. If the general consensus is he's "one of the best I've ever seen" or "able to make throws that few, if any, other QB can", then isn't comparing him to ANY other QB futile?

Stryker · 06-05-2018, 11:03 AM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...8-nfl-playoffs

Five reasons why the Chiefs will make the 2018 NFL playoffs

1) The Patrick Mahomes Experience
Why would Kansas City ship a reliable veteran quarterback out the door to the Redskins, a player in Alex Smith who operated at an MVP level for much of last season?

Chiefs general manager Brett Veach made that crystal clear at the NFL Scouting Combine, turning heads when he said of Mahomes, Kansas City's heir under center: "All the physical tools are there. He is one of the best players I have ever seen."

A newbie quarterback with only one regular-season start is arguably fodder for why an NFL team won't make the playoffs, but the switch to Mahomes showed no hint of desperation. It was the opposite of a knee-jerk reaction, with coach Andy Reid slow-cooking the rookie all last season before agreeing to move Smith in January. As Veach told scribes: "Coach had a vision, and we brought [Mahomes] along slowly, and we are excited for the future."

Aesthetically, Mahomes looms as an opposite to Smith, showcasing a raw and frenetic skill set, a shotgun arm and a flair for the big play. That was on display during last summer's preseason action and one impressive start against the Broncos in Week 17. Mahomes also needs time and experience, but teammates already believe in the young QB:

"Yeah, without a doubt. I feel like Patty Cakes can come in and roll the dice on anybody," Kelce told NFL Network's Andrew Siciliano during Super Bowl Week. "He can throw the ball any way, he can throw it off his back foot and he can jump and throw -- he can throw the ball anywhere, any way you need for it to be thrown. His confidence is definitely one of the best attributes to his game.

"When he played against the Broncos, I mean, he had a lot of footballs where he put it right on the money. And in crucial times and in crucial moments."

The football landscape is filled with those who believe in Mahomes -- and those who need to see more. Much more. I tend to put my faith in ...

2) Andy Reid
Reid wouldn't have dumped Smith if he believed Mahomes -- a player he traded up for in last year's draft -- might turn into Brock Osweiler 2.0. Kansas City's experienced coach has a full season of practice footage on his new quarterback to go along with hundreds of hours of tape-room study and personal interaction.

Reid has been around seemingly forever, tutoring a laundry list of quarterbacks and building a host of playoff-worthy teams with aide from his trusty utility belt. This is far from a rash, devil-may-care figure: Reid, instead, has earned the reputation for authoring ...

3) One of the NFL's most flexible attacks

Critics shrugged when Reid, in 2013, hired ex-Vikings coach Brad Childress as his "spread game analyst." Nobody is laughing today, though, with Kansas City leading the way when it comes to incorporating college concepts into the playbook.

Reid once told Kevin Clark of The Ringer that he viewed the college game as "five years ahead" of the pro template.

"Andy is a much more progressive, open-minded coach, in whatever area, than people give him credit for. He's always curious, always interested," former Eagles executive Joe Banner told Clark of Reid. "He's been talking about making the defense defend the length and width of the field for a very long time."

It's no coincidence that Super Bowl LII left us hailing Eagles coach Doug Pederson -- Reid's former pupil -- as an offensive-minded wunderkind. It's equally no surprise that Bears fans are imbued with a new sense of hope over the hiring of former Chiefs play-caller Matt Nagy. Losing these two minds, along with Childress, is no help to the Chiefs -- but let's not forget who runs the ship. Reid will have this offense perfectly molded around his young quarterback, who remains surrounded by ...

4) A saucy flock of weapons

Alex Smith produced the league's top Deep Passer Rating in 2017, per Pro Football Focus. That's a credit to Smith, but something of an aberration during his long career.

He was helped last season by an offense that featured lightning-quick deep threat Tyreek Hill, Pro Bowl tight end Travis Kelce and Offensive Rookie of the Year candidate Kareem Hunt. All three are back for 2018, and free-agent addition Sammy Watkins gives Kansas City the wideout it was missing to pair with Hill.

The superior coaching and surrounding offensive talent give Mahomes a chance to succeed in ...

5) The less-than-invincible AFC West
We spent last year crooning over the West as football's finest division. All of that looked foolish once the Raiders imploded and Denver emerged as one of the worst teams in the AFC. The Chargers have playoff -- potentially Super Bowl -- talent, but let's wait a minute before we go crowning teams in early June.

The Chiefs have lost star power on defense, but the offense is littered with playmakers. If Mahomes emerges the way other first- and second-year standout passers have done in recent campaigns, Kansas City has a chance to hang around until Week 17 -- and beyond.

-King- · 06-05-2018, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

The play to Harris was also a free play for anyone calling it a risky throw. Pat even looked for the flag and looked off the safety before throwing that pass.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl...watkins&sr=amp

The most impressive part about Pat is he’s one of the very very few QBs that can beat PERFECT COVERAGE with pinpoint accuracy.

There is literally no way to stop him when he’s rolling.

The play with the flag was the first big pass to Harris in the 1st quarter, not the one we're talking about
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beach tribe · 06-05-2018, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22

Favre wasn't just some dumb hillbilly who threw 100s of interceptions

Favre built himself into the best player in the game in the mid 90s, winning 3 straight MVPs and a Superbowl. Athletic, quick, strong, tough.

This...

Farvre catches a lot of shit from fans, and he did make some terrible decisions over the years, but he was undoubtedly one of the top 5 QBs of all time.

Also, the comparisons that should be made should be based on Talent and ability alone.
Mahommes is a humble young man.
Farve is a guy who's explanation for why he attempted throws was: "because I can"

People will see the same kind of plays being made by Mahommes in college and determine that he plays with same mind set, but Mahommes played that way because it was the only way his team had any shot to win, on account of his defense allowing points on nearly every possession.

I think we will still see this kind of thing resurface early in his career but he will not be arrogant about it and will work to clean it up.

I think he has the tools, intelligence and character to be one of the best of all time, but there are so many variables that only time will tell.

-King- · 06-05-2018, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

This...

Farvre catches a lot of shit from fans, and he did make some terrible decisions over the years, but he was undoubtedly one of the top 5 QBs of all time.

Also, the comparisons that should be made should be based on Talent and ability alone.
Mahommes is a humble young man.
Farve is a guy who's explanation for why he attempted throws was: "because I can"

People will see the same kind of plays being made by Mahommes in college and determine that he plays with same mind set, but Mahommes played that way because it was the only way his team had any shot to win, on account of his defense allowing points on nearly every possession.

I think we will still see this kind of thing resurface early in his career but he will not be arrogant about it and will work to clean it up.

I think he has the tools, intelligence and character to be one of the best of all time, but there are so many variables that only time will tell.

What the **** lmao. In what world is favre a top 5 QB of all time?
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**The Franchise** · 06-05-2018, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

What the **** lmao. In what world is favre a top 5 QB of all time?
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In a world where Patrick Mahomes is spelled Mahommes.

Hammock Parties · 06-05-2018, 08:04 PM

Kansas City Chiefs 2018 AFC West Champions pic.twitter.com/9JBdMeqWBU
— ChiefsJayhawksRoyals (@CJR16255) June 5, 2018

Warrick · 06-05-2018, 08:13 PM

Carr is GAF with that eyeliner, he has obviously dropped the soap too many times on purpose after games.

Best22 · 06-05-2018, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe

This...

Farvre catches a lot of shit from fans, and he did make some terrible decisions over the years, but he was undoubtedly one of the top 5 QBs of all time.

Also, the comparisons that should be made should be based on Talent and ability alone.
Mahommes is a humble young man.
Farve is a guy who's explanation for why he attempted throws was: "because I can"

People will see the same kind of plays being made by Mahommes in college and determine that he plays with same mind set, but Mahommes played that way because it was the only way his team had any shot to win, on account of his defense allowing points on nearly every possession.

I think we will still see this kind of thing resurface early in his career but he will not be arrogant about it and will work to clean it up.

I think he has the tools, intelligence and character to be one of the best of all time, but there are so many variables that only time will tell.

Mahomes is outwardly humble, but I think he has the same confidence or "swagger" as Favre

Difference is when Favre first came into the league, he was a huge partier who weighed 250, while Mahomes was a "sponge" who wanted to learn everything he could

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Stryker Super Bowl LVIII Champions! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Casino cash: $1094636	http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...8-nfl-playoffs Five reasons why the Chiefs will make the 2018 NFL playoffs 1) The Patrick Mahomes Experience Why would Kansas City ship a reliable veteran quarterback out the door to the Redskins, a player in Alex Smith who operated at an MVP level for much of last season? Chiefs general manager Brett Veach made that crystal clear at the NFL Scouting Combine, turning heads when he said of Mahomes, Kansas City's heir under center: "All the physical tools are there. He is one of the best players I have ever seen." A newbie quarterback with only one regular-season start is arguably fodder for why an NFL team won't make the playoffs, but the switch to Mahomes showed no hint of desperation. It was the opposite of a knee-jerk reaction, with coach Andy Reid slow-cooking the rookie all last season before agreeing to move Smith in January. As Veach told scribes: "Coach had a vision, and we brought [Mahomes] along slowly, and we are excited for the future." Aesthetically, Mahomes looms as an opposite to Smith, showcasing a raw and frenetic skill set, a shotgun arm and a flair for the big play. That was on display during last summer's preseason action and one impressive start against the Broncos in Week 17. Mahomes also needs time and experience, but teammates already believe in the young QB: "Yeah, without a doubt. I feel like Patty Cakes can come in and roll the dice on anybody," Kelce told NFL Network's Andrew Siciliano during Super Bowl Week. "He can throw the ball any way, he can throw it off his back foot and he can jump and throw -- he can throw the ball anywhere, any way you need for it to be thrown. His confidence is definitely one of the best attributes to his game. "When he played against the Broncos, I mean, he had a lot of footballs where he put it right on the money. And in crucial times and in crucial moments." The football landscape is filled with those who believe in Mahomes -- and those who need to see more. Much more. I tend to put my faith in ... 2) Andy Reid Reid wouldn't have dumped Smith if he believed Mahomes -- a player he traded up for in last year's draft -- might turn into Brock Osweiler 2.0. Kansas City's experienced coach has a full season of practice footage on his new quarterback to go along with hundreds of hours of tape-room study and personal interaction. Reid has been around seemingly forever, tutoring a laundry list of quarterbacks and building a host of playoff-worthy teams with aide from his trusty utility belt. This is far from a rash, devil-may-care figure: Reid, instead, has earned the reputation for authoring ... 3) One of the NFL's most flexible attacks Critics shrugged when Reid, in 2013, hired ex-Vikings coach Brad Childress as his "spread game analyst." Nobody is laughing today, though, with Kansas City leading the way when it comes to incorporating college concepts into the playbook. Reid once told Kevin Clark of The Ringer that he viewed the college game as "five years ahead" of the pro template. "Andy is a much more progressive, open-minded coach, in whatever area, than people give him credit for. He's always curious, always interested," former Eagles executive Joe Banner told Clark of Reid. "He's been talking about making the defense defend the length and width of the field for a very long time." It's no coincidence that Super Bowl LII left us hailing Eagles coach Doug Pederson -- Reid's former pupil -- as an offensive-minded wunderkind. It's equally no surprise that Bears fans are imbued with a new sense of hope over the hiring of former Chiefs play-caller Matt Nagy. Losing these two minds, along with Childress, is no help to the Chiefs -- but let's not forget who runs the ship. Reid will have this offense perfectly molded around his young quarterback, who remains surrounded by ... 4) A saucy flock of weapons Alex Smith produced the league's top Deep Passer Rating in 2017, per Pro Football Focus. That's a credit to Smith, but something of an aberration during his long career. He was helped last season by an offense that featured lightning-quick deep threat Tyreek Hill, Pro Bowl tight end Travis Kelce and Offensive Rookie of the Year candidate Kareem Hunt. All three are back for 2018, and free-agent addition Sammy Watkins gives Kansas City the wideout it was missing to pair with Hill. The superior coaching and surrounding offensive talent give Mahomes a chance to succeed in ... 5) The less-than-invincible AFC West We spent last year crooning over the West as football's finest division. All of that looked foolish once the Raiders imploded and Denver emerged as one of the worst teams in the AFC. The Chargers have playoff -- potentially Super Bowl -- talent, but let's wait a minute before we go crowning teams in early June. The Chiefs have lost star power on defense, but the offense is littered with playmakers. If Mahomes emerges the way other first- and second-year standout passers have done in recent campaigns, Kansas City has a chance to hang around until Week 17 -- and beyond. __________________ Super Bowl LVIII Champions!
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