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Old 07-31-2014, 01:23 PM  
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***Official 2014 STL Cardinals thread part II***
Original thread was getting to large for the board

2011 WS Championship
2012 one win from another WS
2013 two wins from another WS title
2014 Central Division title and NLCS series win (so far)

This is a franchise that has made the postseason 10 times in the last 14 seasons.

Only 1 losing season since 2000.

Reached the World Series 4 times since 2004 and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.

Our new Manager has more post season experience than any other manager in baseball, except the Giants manager.

Made the NLCS 8 times

Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.

60 post season wins since 2004. 20+ wins more than any other team.
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Old 10-04-2014, 10:51 PM   #1156
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Old 10-04-2014, 10:51 PM   #1157
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Baseball is a funny game. Neshek was nails for 5 months of the season and Martinez was mediocre at best. But now Neshek sucks balls and Martinez is throwing good.
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Neshek did have the best FIP on the Cardinals this year. Perhaps he's just running out of steam.
He's done. His september was awful. The last few weeks were bad.
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Damn it. Had a chance to sneak out of there with 2 wins against the best they've got.

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Neshek did have the best FIP on the Cardinals this year. Perhaps he's just running out of steam.
That's still luck-based. His xFIP was worse than Maness', and he has been a turd for a month now.

He has always been Pat Neshek. There was no reason for Matheny to think he was anything else after September.
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He's done. His september was awful. The last few weeks were bad.
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...rs=0&sort=16,a

Yep, looks like Martinez was the choice.
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Yep, looks like Martinez was the choice.
Just a personal opinion thing, but in October, I'd always go with the power arm vs a finesse guy.
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Baseball is a funny game. Neshek was nails for 5 months of the season and Martinez was mediocre at best. But now Neshek sucks balls and Martinez is throwing good.
Any shitty reliever (Jim Johnson) can pitch out of their mind for a year while they ride batted ball luck. A good manager should be able to realize that kind of performance is not sustainable and shouldn't be trusted.
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Yep, looks like Martinez was the choice.
Alot of us think Martinez should be closing. Rosenthal has had few clean innings this year especially after the All-Star break.
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That's still luck-based. His xFIP was worse than Maness', and he has been a turd for a month now.

He has always been Pat Neshek. There was no reason for Matheny to think he was anything else after September.
Unlike Neshek, both Martinez and Maness keep the ball on the ground a lot more as well. Helps with their lower xFIP totals.
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