Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Reload this Page Chiefs BURROWHEAD: Bengals talking a lot of sh1ttttt
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
Page 78 of 417 « First 286874757677 78 7980818288128178 Last »
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-24-2023, 08:39 AM  
NIUhuskies NIUhuskies is offline
Veteran
 
NIUhuskies's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Casino cash: $7995050
BURROWHEAD: Bengals talking a lot of sh1ttttt
I love that are doing this. Probably not smart to poke the bear
Spoiler!
Last edited by Bearcat; 11-25-2023 at 10:41 AM..
Posts: 1,039
NIUhuskies is not part of the Right 53.NIUhuskies is not part of the Right 53.NIUhuskies is not part of the Right 53.NIUhuskies is not part of the Right 53.NIUhuskies is not part of the Right 53.NIUhuskies is not part of the Right 53.NIUhuskies is not part of the Right 53.NIUhuskies is not part of the Right 53.NIUhuskies is not part of the Right 53.NIUhuskies is not part of the Right 53.NIUhuskies is not part of the Right 53.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2023, 11:16 AM   #1156
rfaulk34 rfaulk34 is offline
Veteran
 
rfaulk34's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Cincinnati
Casino cash: $-750000
Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho View Post
First of all, how are they measuring "under pressure?" Does it seem a bit odd to you that only 5 of the 41 sacks Joe BUrrow took last year were deemed to have been "under pressure" sacks? This looks like PFF data... is that accurate?

Even if we took PFF's read on this as gospel (note: no one should, and it especially doesn't fly around here), the bolded piece is the part at which you should be looking. That's a small separation between Williams and Brown, and a lot of your fellow fans seem to think Brown is a transformative upgrade (and that's understandable, a lot of national pundits believe that, too).

There's also the matter of Burrow being sacked an additional 36 times in 2022 when not "Under pressure" by breakdown, vs. 21 times for Mahomes. That's where the need to escape will REALLY come in with Orlando Brown at LT.

When he faces an outside speed rush of any quality at all, Brown HAS to win ugly by pushing his man wide of the pocket. This is a tactic that works, generally, when you're on schedule and the ball comes out on time. When you have a QB holding the ball and waiting for things to develop down field, it's much more of an issue.

Mahomes and the Chiefs were able to make it work in 2022 and be an efficient offense by getting the ball out quicker, using the RB and multiple TE sets to chip the Es and slow down the outside rush, and having the best G-C-G trio in the NFL, which usually afforded Mahomes space to step up in the pocket.

That recipe wasn't there for Cincinnati a year ago.

And honestly, if this data set is designed to show how often a QB is sacked when his OL gives up quick pressure, I think the story it tells is a NEGATIVE for Cincinnati. If Burrow was sacked 36 times when his line did not give up "quick pressure," adding Orlando Brown Jr. at LT isn't really a fix for that. He's not going to get bull rushed often and give up quick pressure (unless a pass rusher with speed and power has been whipping him to the outside and he starts cheating there, then gets beat across his face), but that secondary pressure where you're 3-4 seconds into the play and the DE has run the arc and is bending back to pursue back towards the LOS is an issue for him.

This story isn't going to end how you and the Bengals think it is.
Yes it's PFF. It's stat compiling, not grades (which are worthless) but i don't know how they determine "under pressure". It seems that every single sack ever recorded would be "under pressure" but...i have no idea. I'm just showing the number of times for each for comparison.

I'd never call OBj a transformative upgrade so other fans can kick rocks. I know he's an upgrade, maybe small but an upgrade.

To the bolded, that's exactly what the Bengals do and like the Chiefs, they had to adapt to 2 deep safety looks, like the Chiefs did the year before. The Bengals don't have deep drop schemes, they're predicated on timing and getting the ball out quick already. If what the Chiefs did for Brown was successful, then he has nothing to worry about because the Bengals already run that offense. Brown already spoke on this himself, about how different the QB drops were going to be and it would be a strength for him.

The very simple fact of the matter is, when Burrow is behind a decent offensive line, he's elite. When he's behind a shit offensive line, he's still very good. It's indisputible by the eye and by the numbers on the page. He may never get a ring because he has Mahomes and the Chiefs in front of him. The Chiefs check more boxes from the top down and Mahomes is the best QB in the game right now. That doesn't change the fact that Burrow and the Bengals are a very real threat to the Chiefs. The biggest threat in the NFL.
__________________
"Joey Brrrrrrridesmaid will never win a SB. Mother Faulker, your team will NEVER WIN A SUPER BOWL!!"

"History won't remember Joe Burrow. At all. Less than it will Matthew Stafford; similar to how it remembers Carson Palmer. Maybe he stays healthy and has a Matt Ryan career."--DJ'sLeftNut
Posts: 2,926
rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.
 Thumbs Up 3 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2023, 12:16 PM   #1157
duncan_idaho duncan_idaho is offline
M-I-Z-Z-O-U
 
duncan_idaho's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Kansas City
Casino cash: $-289692
Quote:
Originally Posted by rfaulk34 View Post
Yes it's PFF. It's stat compiling, not grades (which are worthless) but i don't know how they determine "under pressure". It seems that every single sack ever recorded would be "under pressure" but...i have no idea. I'm just showing the number of times for each for comparison.

I'd never call OBj a transformative upgrade so other fans can kick rocks. I know he's an upgrade, maybe small but an upgrade.

To the bolded, that's exactly what the Bengals do and like the Chiefs, they had to adapt to 2 deep safety looks, like the Chiefs did the year before. The Bengals don't have deep drop schemes, they're predicated on timing and getting the ball out quick already. If what the Chiefs did for Brown was successful, then he has nothing to worry about because the Bengals already run that offense. Brown already spoke on this himself, about how different the QB drops were going to be and it would be a strength for him.

The very simple fact of the matter is, when Burrow is behind a decent offensive line, he's elite. When he's behind a shit offensive line, he's still very good. It's indisputible by the eye and by the numbers on the page. He may never get a ring because he has Mahomes and the Chiefs in front of him. The Chiefs check more boxes from the top down and Mahomes is the best QB in the game right now. That doesn't change the fact that Burrow and the Bengals are a very real threat to the Chiefs. The biggest threat in the NFL.

Burrow is great, yes.

How much did the Bengals chip with RBs last year? I didn’t see that much at all (if at all) in the action I watched, and Brown required that type of help a lot of the time for KC in 22 (less in 21).
__________________
"You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass."
---- Sinatra
Posts: 21,538
duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.duncan_idaho is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2023, 03:00 PM   #1158
rfaulk34 rfaulk34 is offline
Veteran
 
rfaulk34's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Cincinnati
Casino cash: $-750000
Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho View Post
Burrow is great, yes.

How much did the Bengals chip with RBs last year? I didn’t see that much at all (if at all) in the action I watched, and Brown required that type of help a lot of the time for KC in 22 (less in 21).
I don't know specifics right now but from memory, they seem to prefer to get them out in space as a safety valve. Any chipping was more like getting a hand on a guy then getting out in the flat.
__________________
"Joey Brrrrrrridesmaid will never win a SB. Mother Faulker, your team will NEVER WIN A SUPER BOWL!!"

"History won't remember Joe Burrow. At all. Less than it will Matthew Stafford; similar to how it remembers Carson Palmer. Maybe he stays healthy and has a Matt Ryan career."--DJ'sLeftNut
Posts: 2,926
rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.
     Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2023, 03:04 PM   #1159
Spott Spott is offline
Court Jester
 
Spott's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Orlando
Casino cash: $1012400
A lot of talk about a team that’s going to be a wild card team at best. No team in ohio will ever win shit.
Posts: 20,215
Spott is obviously part of the inner Circle.Spott is obviously part of the inner Circle.Spott is obviously part of the inner Circle.Spott is obviously part of the inner Circle.Spott is obviously part of the inner Circle.Spott is obviously part of the inner Circle.Spott is obviously part of the inner Circle.Spott is obviously part of the inner Circle.Spott is obviously part of the inner Circle.Spott is obviously part of the inner Circle.Spott is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2023, 03:12 PM   #1160
rfaulk34 rfaulk34 is offline
Veteran
 
rfaulk34's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Cincinnati
Casino cash: $-750000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spott View Post
A lot of talk about a team that’s going to be a wild card team at best. No team in ohio will ever win shit.
#1 seed szn loading

__________________
"Joey Brrrrrrridesmaid will never win a SB. Mother Faulker, your team will NEVER WIN A SUPER BOWL!!"

"History won't remember Joe Burrow. At all. Less than it will Matthew Stafford; similar to how it remembers Carson Palmer. Maybe he stays healthy and has a Matt Ryan career."--DJ'sLeftNut
Posts: 2,926
rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2023, 03:20 PM   #1161
Jewish Rabbi Jewish Rabbi is online now
What's up braj?
 
Jewish Rabbi's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Placencia, Belize
Casino cash: $43250
Quote:
Originally Posted by rfaulk34 View Post
#1 seed szn loading

You should load a shotgun and use it on your own head
Posts: 16,379
Jewish Rabbi is obviously part of the inner Circle.Jewish Rabbi is obviously part of the inner Circle.Jewish Rabbi is obviously part of the inner Circle.Jewish Rabbi is obviously part of the inner Circle.Jewish Rabbi is obviously part of the inner Circle.Jewish Rabbi is obviously part of the inner Circle.Jewish Rabbi is obviously part of the inner Circle.Jewish Rabbi is obviously part of the inner Circle.Jewish Rabbi is obviously part of the inner Circle.Jewish Rabbi is obviously part of the inner Circle.Jewish Rabbi is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 5 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2023, 03:30 PM   #1162
RealSNR RealSNR is offline
Special Teams ACE!!!
 
RealSNR's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Where the hell is SNR
Casino cash: $305208
Quote:
Originally Posted by rfaulk34 View Post
#1 seed szn loading

The NFL needs the Arrowhead Invitational. The script writers will never allow that to happen.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper16 View Post
I would read an entire blog of SNR breaking down athletes' musical capabilities like draft scouting reports.
Posts: 92,197
RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2023, 03:39 PM   #1163
FlaChief58 FlaChief58 is offline
SuperChiefs
 
FlaChief58's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Florida
Casino cash: $189822
Quote:
Originally Posted by rfaulk34 View Post
#1 seed szn loading


via GIFER
Posts: 20,837
FlaChief58 is obviously part of the inner Circle.FlaChief58 is obviously part of the inner Circle.FlaChief58 is obviously part of the inner Circle.FlaChief58 is obviously part of the inner Circle.FlaChief58 is obviously part of the inner Circle.FlaChief58 is obviously part of the inner Circle.FlaChief58 is obviously part of the inner Circle.FlaChief58 is obviously part of the inner Circle.FlaChief58 is obviously part of the inner Circle.FlaChief58 is obviously part of the inner Circle.FlaChief58 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 5 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2023, 03:55 PM   #1164
rfaulk34 rfaulk34 is offline
Veteran
 
rfaulk34's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Cincinnati
Casino cash: $-750000
Quote:
Originally Posted by RealSNR View Post
The NFL needs the Arrowhead Invitational. The script writers will never allow that to happen.
I just saw a leaked memo from the NFL. Doesn't look good for you.

__________________
"Joey Brrrrrrridesmaid will never win a SB. Mother Faulker, your team will NEVER WIN A SUPER BOWL!!"

"History won't remember Joe Burrow. At all. Less than it will Matthew Stafford; similar to how it remembers Carson Palmer. Maybe he stays healthy and has a Matt Ryan career."--DJ'sLeftNut
Posts: 2,926
rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.rfaulk34 would the whole thing.
 Thumbs Up 2 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2023, 11:34 PM   #1165
Chiefspants Chiefspants is offline
World's Best Boss
 
Chiefspants's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bronco Country
Casino cash: $4454654
Quote:
Originally Posted by rfaulk34 View Post
Yeah. It was really ugly between the Bengals and Steelers during the Dalton era, way beyond just shit talk. I like the Chiefs v Bengals rivalry right now because while there is a lot of talk, the teams keep it clean on the field.
Those teams looked like they were literally trying to kill each other on the field. Hell, AB never looked the same since and Juju sent Burfict to space in the game after.
Posts: 18,692
Chiefspants is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chiefspants is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chiefspants is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chiefspants is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chiefspants is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chiefspants is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chiefspants is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chiefspants is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chiefspants is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chiefspants is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chiefspants is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 2 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2023, 11:53 PM   #1166
Buehler445 Buehler445 is offline
Supporter
 
Buehler445's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Scott City KS
Casino cash: $244734
Quote:
Originally Posted by RealSNR View Post
If the AFC North were a person, it would be a goddamn Habsburg.

Inbred dipshits.
Holy mother of ****ing God.

This is an outstanding post.

All you ****ing toolboxes that try to troll should be ashamed of yourself. Take note douches, this is how you run smack.
Posts: 58,329
Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2023, 11:55 PM   #1167
dlphg9 dlphg9 is offline
MVP
 
dlphg9's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2010
Casino cash: $169653
Quote:
Originally Posted by rfaulk34 View Post
I just saw a leaked memo from the NFL. Doesn't look good for you.

You're team is full of DBags and you get a lot of shit on here, but honestly you're a pretty decent rival fan poster. Yeah you're gonna talk up your team and get excited about signing what you hope is an upgrade for your defensive line, but at least your not a huge douche rocket like KnowMo or that DickLicks dipshit.
Posts: 19,031
dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
 Thumbs Up 5 Thumbs Down 1     Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2023, 12:26 AM   #1168
Fishels Fishels is offline
Starter
 
Fishels's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2022
Casino cash: $-2349500
I hope the Ravens take back the north. Little Joey is getting too comfortable in that corner
Posts: 990
Fishels is not part of the Right 53.Fishels is not part of the Right 53.Fishels is not part of the Right 53.Fishels is not part of the Right 53.Fishels is not part of the Right 53.Fishels is not part of the Right 53.Fishels is not part of the Right 53.Fishels is not part of the Right 53.Fishels is not part of the Right 53.Fishels is not part of the Right 53.Fishels is not part of the Right 53.
     Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2023, 05:53 AM   #1169
ChiTown ChiTown is offline
Stroking to the SB Champs!
 
ChiTown's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Flatlands of Kansas
Casino cash: $1238962
Here is the most the relevant stat, and quite frankly, the ONLY one that matters:

Mahomes 2
Burrow 0
__________________
Posts: 40,250
ChiTown is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiTown is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiTown is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiTown is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiTown is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiTown is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiTown is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiTown is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiTown is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiTown is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiTown is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 4 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2023, 06:13 AM   #1170
smithandrew051 smithandrew051 is online now
I Like The Kansas City Chiefs
 
smithandrew051's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Shawnee, KS
Casino cash: $1164400
Has anyone heard how Burrow’s anal reconstructive surgery went after what Chris Jones did to him in the AFCCG?

Is he still sitting on a donut? Colostomy bag?
__________________
My 2024 Adopt a Chief: Leo Chenal

Holy Hat!
Posts: 28,747
smithandrew051 is obviously part of the inner Circle.smithandrew051 is obviously part of the inner Circle.smithandrew051 is obviously part of the inner Circle.smithandrew051 is obviously part of the inner Circle.smithandrew051 is obviously part of the inner Circle.smithandrew051 is obviously part of the inner Circle.smithandrew051 is obviously part of the inner Circle.smithandrew051 is obviously part of the inner Circle.smithandrew051 is obviously part of the inner Circle.smithandrew051 is obviously part of the inner Circle.smithandrew051 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 78 of 417 « First 286874757677 78 7980818288128178 Last »

« Previous Thread | > Nzoner's Game Room < | Next Thread »

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:06 PM.

Contact Us - ChiefsPlanet - Archive - Top

This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Advertise with us!
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.