Who should we trade for if Rice is out?

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[Megatron96]

I doubt we need to give it a whole lot of weight, but The Sporting News has posted a pair of articles in which they are reporting a lot of interest by the Chiefs in trading for either DHop or Tee Higgins.

I can't fathom how we could afford Higgins, considering what his market value has to be, but the cap is just about my worst subject.


DHop does look more affordable but would still need some creative machinations to be able to afford him as well, so not sure how the writers of the two articles thought any of this was possible.

But it adds a name or two to the list, and that's always fun, right?

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

The depth has been depleted at WR. I’ve said in other threads I think they can win the SB with the current group and I stand by that but what happens if you lose Worthy or JuJu? Lotta season left.

And Kelce. Age 35 with some nagging injuries last year. Mecole Hardman is another one with injury history.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by DRM08

And Kelce. Age 35 with some nagging injuries last year. Mecole Hardman is another one with injury history.

And I'm pretty sure Mecole just isn't the same. He doesn't look as fast as he once was.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by xztop123

You guys forget that these are grown men who elite level athletes.

Juju with knowledge of playbook > cooper with one buy week learning playbook.

Cooper won’t surpass juju for at least 1-2 months of learning and practicing.

First of all, we don't really know how long it would take for Amari to outperform JuJu. But let's not forget that Amari is and has always been a legit WR1 or X WR, and JuJu never has been. At his best JuJu was a better-than-average WR2, and that was half a dozen years ago or whatever.


Also, who cares about next week? Pretty sure everyone here is thinking at least a month downrange, two months, 3 months, postseason . . . and by that time, JJSS might be on IR or otherwise dinged up getting tackled running all those routes over the middle.

And finally, JuJu has a bad wheel, and was never terribly fast to begin with. Amari can actually still go deep and play as a legit X/WR1. So he might prove much more productive than JuJu from Day 1.

[Couch-Potato]

I'd say adding Amari Cooper would make him the best WR on our squad, with respect to Rice.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by BWillie

You don't just look at Wins and Losses. You look at how each part of the team works independently. Just because your defense has been dominant shouldn't mean you don't want or dont think you need to improve the offense, specifically one of the worst WR rooms in the league. Address weak spots. Always try to get better. Do not be content.

Right! Mahomes threw for his most yards in game this season in week 5. No Rice, Brown and Paceco at RB.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

First of all, we don't really know how long it would take for Amari to outperform JuJu. But let's not forget that Amari is and has always been a legit WR1 or X WR, and JuJu never has been. At his best JuJu was a better-than-average WR2, and that was half a dozen years ago or whatever.


Also, who cares about next week? Pretty sure everyone here is thinking at least a month downrange, two months, 3 months, postseason . . . and by that time, JJSS might be on IR or otherwise dinged up getting tackled running all those routes over the middle.

And finally, JuJu has a bad wheel, and was never terribly fast to begin with. Amari can actually still go deep and play as a legit X/WR1. So he might prove much more productive than JuJu from Day 1.

The year juju had in 2018 (111 receptions, 1426 yards and 7 td's) is better than any season Amari has had. JuJu has been a victim of circumstances. His first few years he played with Big Ben but still had to share the field with Antonio Brown. Then in 2019 when AB leaves and he becomes the number one, Big Ben gets injured and misses the year. 2020 Ben comes back and Juju gets 830 yards and 9 td's. The next year he gets Injured and misses most of the season.

Then JuJu joins KC and gets 1022 yards and 3 td's during the regular and playoffs combined. He gets a deal with the Pats and suffers with bad QB play under a defensive head coach.

JuJu has had four seasons with Pat and Big Ben and in all four produced good numbers despite having to share the targets with AB and Kelce. Imo his numbers would be number one level if he wasn't forced to spend multiple years playing with Steelers backups and the Pats rubbish they had last year.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

The year juju had in 2018 (111 receptions, 1426 yards and 7 td's) is better than any season Amari has had. JuJu has been a victim of circumstances. His first few years he played with Big Ben but still had to share the field with Antonio Brown. Then in 2019 when AB leaves and he becomes the number one, Big Ben gets injured and misses the year. 2020 Ben comes back and Juju gets 830 yards and 9 td's. The next year he gets Injured and misses most of the season.

Then JuJu joins KC and gets 1022 yards and 3 td's during the regular and playoffs combined. He gets a deal with the Pats and suffers with bad QB play under a defensive head coach.

JuJu has had four seasons with Pat and Big Ben and in all four produced good numbers despite having to share the targets with AB and Kelce. Imo his numbers would be number one level if he wasn't forced to spend multiple years playing with Steelers backups and the Pats rubbish they had last year.

And while all of that may be true, it's also true that when PIT tried to make JJSS the WR1/X, it became quite clear before the end of that season that he wasn't an X/WR1.

Bottom line, he's good, better than every other WR we happen to have in the room, but he's not a true X. If he was, he'd still be in NE. Or, he would've been picked up by any other team in the league. Which is great for us in the short-term, but we need better/faster and more durable/reliable.

[Nirvana58]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

The depth has been depleted at WR. I’ve said in other threads I think they can win the SB with the current group and I stand by that but what happens if you lose Worthy or JuJu? Lotta season left.

Worthy is a rookie. Who knows how Juju knee will hold up.

Kelce took a beating last game. Need to have him fresh for the playoffs. We lose another receiver you are looking at Sky as your starting receiver.

We need another receiver.

[Rainbarrel]

A normal Brett move will do, nothing cap/draft busting

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Rainbarrel

A normal Brett move will do, nothing cap/draft busting

No. It. Wont.

Swing for the fence.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by BWillie

You don't just look at Wins and Losses. You look at how each part of the team works independently. Just because your defense has been dominant shouldn't mean you don't want or dont think you need to improve the offense, specifically one of the worst WR rooms in the league. Address weak spots. Always try to get better. Do not be content.

Sadly I agree with BWillie.

The WR room is dangerously thin at this point. Another injury and suddenly we're elevating Remigio/Ross and Skyy Moore is getting significant snaps again. If you care about this season enough to want to patch that hole, trading the 3rd makes sense and is pragmatic.

[Couch-Potato]

So... is Andy gonna call Ross up from the practice squad, or no?

I actually came here to make the argument that we can get along until the playoffs with what we've got but we only have 4 WRs + Sky Moore on the active roster currently and need to at least bring up one of our practice team guys.

[Couch-Potato]

Doubs is bigger than I thought at 6'2 204 and fits Veach's target age range. He's someone we might actually sign to a long term deal. I can imagine him catching those Rice slants pretty easily without a ton of playbook study required.

Sure, Adams would be amazing, Hopkins would be fun, and Cooper fits the bill nicely but Doubs feels right to me.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Rainbarrel

A normal Brett move will do, nothing cap/draft busting

Veach traded for a WR last year.

Traded for a WR in 2022

Tried to sign OBJ when he was released during the season in 2021.

Veach will add a WR.