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Old 04-26-2024, 07:20 PM  
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Old 11-15-2024, 03:17 PM   #1156
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Yeah it's like Trey Hendrickson just broke him completely.
Hope its not Karma from the DT years HA
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Old 11-15-2024, 03:25 PM   #1157
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I had hopes for this guy based on how athletic he looked in preseason, but man that's some of the absolute worst tape I've ever seen on a professional. It's bad enough that he looks inept, what really bothers me is it doesn't look like he cares a whole lot. I'm not writing him off at his age, but he needs to improve by light years to get back out on the field.
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Old 11-15-2024, 03:31 PM   #1158
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Obviously BYU isn't the Chiefs, but could the demands on the OL be THAT much more varied? Sure he's going against better competition, but not knowing what he's supposed to be doing doesn't really make sense unless the guy has a brain tumor or something.
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Old 11-15-2024, 03:36 PM   #1159
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Seriously? You're going to subscribe to the "he doesn't care" bullshit too?

It's pure hyperbolic bullshit.

There's any number of reasons that explain that behavior. Maybe he was shell-shocked. Maybe he was thinking about how bad he was gonna get beat on the next play. Maybe he was despondent because he was letting Pat get hit so much.

But yeah, let's just jump to "he doesn't care". SMH
He looks like a 2nd round rookie left tackle unsure of what he is seeing out there and not confident of the playbook and line calls. The Veteran even sorta screwed up on his blocking and Joe quickly went over to help Patrick up. Almost like it was his responsibility. Joe doesn't look 100% and that doesn't help the rook either.
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Old 11-15-2024, 04:09 PM   #1160
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I understand you don't need to be a chess champion to be a successful offensive lineman (but it doesn't hurt, does it, Thuney?).

But stepping back, and listening to interviews, I just don't think the guy is very bright. That's not to say he can't be a phenomenal athlete. In this case, however, I wonder if he's having trouble with the learning curve, and the application of what he's learning from week to week.

Things like remembering assignments, remembering the techniques of the guys he's facing, etc... that requires some level of intelligence and learning ability.

If he had months to prep for our first/second games, but then started to stall as that timeline shrunk between the following weeks... I wonder if that's the "why."

Perhaps that is something that can course correct as he grows. Right now everything is new. The fundamentals that stay the same will become ingrained, and will allow him to focus on the intake of new info.

I'm totally speculating, but I wonder if the game is just too big for him right now given his limited capacity to learn, retain, and apply the volume of new information in a short window of time each week.
Dumb people can play LT. It's totally possible.

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Old 11-15-2024, 04:15 PM   #1161
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Dumb people can play LT. It's totally possible.
Right, but maybe they need time to develop if they are dumb.
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Old 11-15-2024, 05:05 PM   #1162
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Now FWIW, Penei Sewell wasn't good his rookie year either. He won't ever be Penei, but he could improve a bunch.
They’re cousins, iirc.

Hopefully they will spend a month working together this offseason.
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Obviously BYU isn't the Chiefs, but could the demands on the OL be THAT much more varied? Sure he's going against better competition, but not knowing what he's supposed to be doing doesn't really make sense unless the guy has a brain tumor or something.
To answer your question, yes. It’s not very often that a pass rusher comes out of college and dominates in the NFL right away, like a Myles Garrett. Most take time to develop which means a rookie LT is facing guys who are typically bigger, stronger, faster and more experienced than what they faced in college.

Also in college a player can get by on athleticism while in the NFL that isn’t always the case as they are all athletic. Technique more often than not wins out and a lot of what he’s seeing is stuff he might not have seen in college. The margin for error is much smaller in the NFL.

Usually the speed of the game is much different vs college and for someone who’s raw, he can’t just get away with pure athleticism. He has to be able to think and react much faster and when he’s not it looks like he’s lost. Now that also could crush his confidence making a bad situation worse.

He just needs to stay off the field for the rest of the season and work on his technique while letting the game slow down for him.
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Right, but maybe they need time to develop if they are dumb.
It was good that Mongo can't read.
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Wouldn’t it be better to get a veteran LT such as Donovan Smith or David Bakhtiari signed now to get them up to speed and in game shape so they are ready if needed for the stretch run?

It’s not a long shot possibility that Wanya Morris might not be available down the stretch of the season given his knee issue.
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I just keep hoping that he'll develop and eventually figure it out. He's got the size and the athleticism, seems like he just needs to work on his technique. So just gotta keep coaching him up and let him develop. With a little time, hopefully he does become that premier LT we were all hoping for when we drafted him.

And if not, then we trade him to NYJ for two 1sts. Problem solved.
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Wouldn’t it be better to get a veteran LT such as Donovan Smith or David Bakhtiari signed now to get them up to speed and in game shape so they are ready if needed for the stretch run?

It’s not a long shot possibility that Wanya Morris might not be available down the stretch of the season given his knee issue.
I totally expected this to happen.

All I can think is that there is a reason that Brett took a look and didn’t pull the trigger. It wouldn’t be hard to have been an upgrade. They must clearly not be.
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I totally expected this to happen.

All I can think is that there is a reason that Brett took a look and didn’t pull the trigger. It wouldn’t be hard to have been an upgrade. They must clearly not be.
Seems so, they were pretty quick picking up JuJu, Kareem, and even Mecole last year when injuries or needs arose.
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