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View Poll Results: How will the Chris Jones deal play out?
Chris Jones will get paid by the Chiefs 207 70.17%
Chris Jones will get traded by the Chiefs 88 29.83%
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Old 07-22-2023, 06:08 PM  
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The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition
Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute



Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.
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Old 08-10-2023, 10:05 AM   #1141
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Old 08-10-2023, 10:24 AM   #1142
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No leverage. LOL.
What is his leverage, seriously? He will be missed if he holds out, but it would be exponentially more harmful to Jones's reputation and financial security as an individual compared to a team that has Mahomes and has been able to overcome many obstacles the last 5 years and yet have made it to 5 straights AFCCGs.
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Old 08-10-2023, 10:24 AM   #1143
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injuries happen in football. And despite that he was still good. Dude had one of the best runs in football history and has a down year now it's "he fell off the map"

Using this logic, I don't get why people want to even pay Chris Jones $25 mil a year. If he's going to fall off the map when he turns 30, what's the point?
He played in 11 games before getting hurt and got 5 sacks. So he was on pace to get 8 sacks if he was healthy. Is that worth the $27 million cap hit they were giving him?

And I'm glad you brought up injuries. Dedicating that much to a single player that isn't a QB is a gigantic risk, especially one that is on a 3rd contract.

We saw what that looked like with Frank Clark. You saw what that looked like for the Bills last year too. Chris Jones age alone would be a factor here. Historically DT's starting declining around 30-31. A long term deal risks that.

How often do 3rd contracts work out for DL? JJ Watt? Nope. Von Miller so far? Nope. Aaron Donald so far? Nope.

Everybody wants to be the Patriots dynasty. Well hanging onto old players isn't how you do what the Patriots did.
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Old 08-10-2023, 10:30 AM   #1144
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At some point you are going to have to pay someone other than Mahomes. Bolton is probably one of them.

As a Mizzou guy, I love Nick Bolton. But I don’t think he’s good enough in pass coverage to pay him a 2nd contract in the realm of what Roquon Smith got.

He made progress there last year, but I still think he’s got a physical limit to his coverage upside.

I don’t think MLB is the spot they pick. Especially not with how inexpensive Tranquill was. If he plays as much and as well as I think he is going to play, Tranquill could prove a better long-term fit/pay at MLB than Bolton.
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Old 08-10-2023, 10:30 AM   #1145
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Old 08-10-2023, 10:34 AM   #1146
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As a Mizzou guy, I love Nick Bolton. But I don’t think he’s good enough in pass coverage to pay him a 2nd contract in the realm of what Roquon Smith got.

He made progress there last year, but I still think he’s got a physical limit to his coverage upside.

I don’t think MLB is the spot they pick. Especially not with how inexpensive Tranquill was. If he plays as much and as well as I think he is going to play, Tranquill could prove a better long-term fit/pay at MLB than Bolton.
Bolton should get a contract that is more in line with what the Jags guy got maybe a bit more, he's not Fred Warner or Roquan.
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Old 08-10-2023, 10:37 AM   #1147
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As a Mizzou guy, I love Nick Bolton. But I don’t think he’s good enough in pass coverage to pay him a 2nd contract in the realm of what Roquon Smith got.

He made progress there last year, but I still think he’s got a physical limit to his coverage upside.

I don’t think MLB is the spot they pick. Especially not with how inexpensive Tranquill was. If he plays as much and as well as I think he is going to play, Tranquill could prove a better long-term fit/pay at MLB than Bolton.
Do you think they keep Gay and Tranquill and let Bolton walk? Do you think he will want Roquon Smith money? I guess we will see, but I saw how much of an upgrade he was over Hitchens and would hate to see him walk if KC doesn't have to.
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What is his leverage, seriously? He will be missed if he holds out, but it would be exponentially more harmful to Jones's reputation and financial security as an individual compared to a team that has Mahomes and has been able to overcome many obstacles the last 5 years and yet have made it to 5 straights AFCCGs.
We've completely Fonzied ourselves here in thinking losing a DPOY candidate won't be harmful to the Chiefs chances of winning a SB>
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Do you think they keep Gay and Tranquill and let Bolton walk? Do you think he will want Roquon Smith money? I guess we will see, but I saw how much of an upgrade he was over Hitchens and would hate to see him walk if KC doesn't have to.
If those guys are reasonably priced I think they'd bring them back. Off ball LB's don't get paid huge deals unless they are elite.
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We've completely Fonzied ourselves here in thinking losing a DPOY candidate won't be harmful to the Chiefs chances of winning a SB>
They aren't even losing him, if that happened it'd be after the season giving them ample ability to replace him.
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He played in 11 games before getting hurt and got 5 sacks. So he was on pace to get 8 sacks if he was healthy. Is that worth the $27 million cap hit they were giving him?

And I'm glad you brought up injuries. Dedicating that much to a single player that isn't a QB is a gigantic risk, especially one that is on a 3rd contract.

We saw what that looked like with Frank Clark. You saw what that looked like for the Bills last year too. Chris Jones age alone would be a factor here. Historically DT's starting declining around 30-31. A long term deal risks that.

How often do 3rd contracts work out for DL? JJ Watt? Nope. Von Miller so far? Nope. Aaron Donald so far? Nope.

Everybody wants to be the Patriots dynasty. Well hanging onto old players isn't how you do what the Patriots did.
I don't think anyone disagrees with that.

The issue is if that's the way you wanna go, you do it before the draft this year.
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They aren't even losing him, if that happened it'd be after the season giving them ample ability to replace him.
Yes, next year woudl be ideal.

I don't think they'll risk tagging him and taking that cap hit during FA, but they may have to.
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If defensive players are that unimportant, I can't imagine anyone here is happy the Chiefs have spent 3 straight first round picks on defenders.
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If defensive players are that unimportant, I can't imagine anyone here is happy the Chiefs have spent 3 straight first round picks on defenders.
I question the players value when it's a 3rd contract and he is wanting that kind of money.
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