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Old 03-23-2022, 10:34 AM  
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Chiefs trade Tyreek Hill to the Dolphins
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Old 03-23-2022, 03:45 PM   #1141
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When did I ever say they suck without Hill?
If they won't suck without Hill, why is it such a ****ing massive problem they traded him?

They just got $20M of cap space and a handful of draft picks that will save further millions over the next 4-5 years.

The ONLY reason to bemoan the trading of Hill is if you think the Chiefs will fail without him. If you think they'll be fine, what the **** is the problem?
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Old 03-23-2022, 03:45 PM   #1142
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Just to clarify the contract thing, Spotrac has been updated and has it listed as:
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Old 03-23-2022, 03:45 PM   #1143
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Just to clarify the contract thing, Spotrac has been updated and has it listed as:
And I'll be curious to see if that's a partial guarantee of his year 3 salary (in 24) -- agents love those early guarantees these days.

In which case, his first 3 years are realistically all guaranteed at that point.

I also wonder if that's going to be in addition to or in lieu of his 2022 figures.

No matter - I am certain Veach did everything he could to get a deal together and the math just didn't work. I very much doubt we low-balled him or he 'took less money to play for Miami' or whatever other nonsensical platitudes we typically hear from guys who switch teams.
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If they won't suck without Hill, why is it such a ****ing massive problem they traded him?

They just got $20M of cap space and a handful of draft picks that will save further millions over the next 4-5 years.

The ONLY reason to bemoan the trading of Hill is if you think the Chiefs will fail without him. If you think they'll be fine, what the **** is the problem?
He isn’t happy with what we got. Even though nobody else was reportedly in on the deal except for two teams.
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Old 03-23-2022, 03:46 PM   #1145
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You get less because he’s one year older and not on the last year of his contract.
Says who? Instead of a small handful of teams that even have the cap space to give Hill what he wants right now you'd have a massive pool of teams with a large influx of gambling cash now on the cap to negotiate and potentially start a bidding war with.
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Old 03-23-2022, 03:46 PM   #1146
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If they won't suck without Hill, why is it such a ****ing massive problem they traded him?

They just got $20M of cap space and a handful of draft picks that will save further millions over the next 4-5 years.

The ONLY reason to bemoan the trading of Hill is if you think the Chiefs will fail without him. If you think they'll be fine, what the **** is the problem?
Entitlement.

That’s your answer.
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I'm OK with this. Let's not freak out until free agency money is all spent and the draft goes down. This was not good news for Buffalo and New England, who now have to brush up on cover two deep...

And they did Hill a big favor trading him to where he really wanted to go. They didn't have to do that. He should have no hard feelings about being dealt. And he has $72 mill in guaranteed cabbage.
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If they won't suck without Hill, why is it such a ****ing massive problem they traded him?

They just got $20M of cap space and a handful of draft picks that will save further millions over the next 4-5 years.

The ONLY reason to bemoan the trading of Hill is if you think the Chiefs will fail without him. If you think they'll be fine, what the **** is the problem?
I am concerned that D's will relax now and begin to "tee off" more. Just saying.
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If they won't suck without Hill, why is it such a ****ing massive problem they traded him?

They just got $20M of cap space and a handful of draft picks that will save further millions over the next 4-5 years.

The ONLY reason to bemoan the trading of Hill is if you think the Chiefs will fail without him. If you think they'll be fine, what the **** is the problem?
Will we suck? No. But it really dents our championship hopes for this year with him gone.
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Says who? Instead of a small handful of teams that even have the cap space to give Hill what he wants right now you'd have a massive pool of teams with a large influx of gambling cash now on the cap to negotiate and potentially start a bidding war with.
And what happens if Tyreek tears his ACL in a playoff game?

Reality isn’t Madden.
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Says who? Instead of a small handful of teams that even have the cap space to give Hill what he wants right now you'd have a massive pool of teams with a large influx of gambling cash now on the cap to negotiate and potentially start a bidding war with.
The only way to get any return on him next year would be to tag him.

The bidding for a tagged player STARTS at two 1st round picks. We barely got ONE.

You're kidding yourself if you think this would have played out any differently next year.
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I am concerned that D's will relax now and begin to "tee off" more. Just saying.
What is this “tee off” bullshit? Did we lose our offensive line? We playing 7 on 7?
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I'm OK with this. Let's not freak out until free agency money is all spent and the draft goes down. This was not good news for Buffalo and New England, who now have to brush up on cover two deep...
It's Teddy, they are not worried.
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Were you ready for 2018 all over again because you were about to see that defense on the field.

We won a championship and then went to a second SB. Some people need to temper their expectations.
For the record, I am not putting this move down. I am officially on record as saying I love Tyreek and would have loved to have kept him, but I will wait to see how things play out before I pass judgment.

I'm just saying in general, I have really been feeling like we squandered a great opportunity over the last few years. Yes, that one Super Bowl win was fantastic, but another would have been ideal. I'd hate for us to look back in 10 years and that 2019 chip is the only one we added with Mahomes ala Rodgers, Brees, etc.
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