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**DaFace** · 06:35 PM

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**lewdog** · 09-13-2021, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by myselff77

Out of curiosity, where would you put your emergency fund? I have money set in an HSA to cover any medical emergency, but want to have another 5-10k set aside for any other emergency that might pop up. Would be nice to get some return on it over sitting in a savings account.

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Savings Account.

You don't want that kind of thing having stock exposure. If you insist on sticking it in an investment account, I wouldn't go any narrower than SPY.

Potentially you could look into a bond fund. VBTLX is Vanguard's Bond Index Fund. Bonds could potentially be a play, they're not going to get much lower, as interest pretty much cannot get lower, and if interest rates rise, so should it.

Still, Savings Account.

Yup, same advice you’ll get from me. Needs to be super safe and accessible at ANY time without risk of declining value.

I have 6 months (some say this excessive) of expenses sitting in emergency savings. Came in handy this year when we could pay in cash an unexpected need of getting a new roof and AC units. Working on building it back up now too.

It’s boring in a savings account but it’s for emergencies, play it safe.

eDave · 09-13-2021, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Savings Account.

You don't want that kind of thing having stock exposure. If you insist on sticking it in an investment account, I wouldn't go any narrower than SPY.

Potentially you could look into a bond fund. VBTLX is Vanguard's Bond Index Fund. Bonds could potentially be a play, they're not going to get much lower, as interest pretty much cannot get lower, and if interest rates rise, so should it.

Still, Savings Account.

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Originally Posted by lewdog

Yup, same advice you’ll get from me. Needs to be super safe and accessible at ANY time without risk of declining value.

I have 6 months (some say this excessive) of expenses sitting in emergency savings. Came in handy this year when we could pay in cash an unexpected need of getting a new roof and AC units. Working on building it back up now too.

It’s boring in a savings account but it’s for emergencies, play it safe.

Meh.

MTG#10 · 09-13-2021, 04:08 PM

Inflation is too high for your money to wither away in a savings account. Emergencies are what credit cards are for. You can always liquidate and pay the card off before interest hits.

**lewdog** · 09-13-2021, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10

Inflation is too high for your money to wither away in a savings account. Emergencies are what credit cards are for. You can always liquidate and pay the card off before interest hits.

Liquidate from a stock that’s declined in value?

Yeah, that’s 2 holes you’ve dug. No guarantee the stock you buy is in profit when your emergency arises.

**Buehler445** · 09-13-2021, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10

Inflation is too high for your money to wither away in a savings account. Emergencies are what credit cards are for. You can always liquidate and pay the card off before interest hits.

Says the guy that's never taken a 50% loss I guess? It took the Nasdaq 15 years to recover from the .com bubble.

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MTG#10 · 09-13-2021, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog

Liquidate from a stock that’s declined in value?

Yeah, that’s 2 holes you’ve dug. No guarantee the stock you buy is in profit when your emergency arises.

I'd rather take a chance keeping all of my money in SPY than letting it wither away in a savings account. My credit cards are for emergencies only. I'm obviously more aggressive with my money than you guys though.

eDave · 09-13-2021, 04:36 PM

If it were me, I'd convert it all to the Crypto dollar (USDT) and put it up for lend. You won't lose a penny and your loans will be picked up and paid back at 7, 14, or 28 day intervals. The blockchain guarantees it and it's insured up to 97% anyway. Right at Lewdog's loss limit. Margin traders love to borrow money.

10K loaned out at .05/day is 150/month generated through savings. And your loan pool just gets bigger and you get paid more. I've had loans out for .085 many times (but they tend to repay faster).

The money is, at most, 8 days away if you hit that emergency.

ChiliConCarnage · 09-13-2021, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Savings Account.

You don't want that kind of thing having stock exposure. If you insist on sticking it in an investment account, I wouldn't go any narrower than SPY.

Potentially you could look into a bond fund. VBTLX is Vanguard's Bond Index Fund. Bonds could potentially be a play, they're not going to get much lower, as interest pretty much cannot get lower, and if interest rates rise, so should it.

Still, Savings Account.

I agree w/ the savings account. Bond funds will go down if interest rates rise. If I have 10k in 7 year treasuries paying 1.0% and the Fed raises to 1.5%. Nobodies going to buy my bonds for 10k anymore. I'll have to sell below par to make up for the half point.

The longer the maturity, the more the pain. So, typically you'd want to be hiding in short/ultra short treasuries. They pay nothing though because rates are so low. Funds have to trade to rebalance. As a person you could buy an individual bond and just hold it to maturity. Though that person wants to be potentially liquid.

MTG#10 · 09-13-2021, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave

If it were me, I'd convert it all to the Crypto dollar (USDT) and put it up for lend. You won't lose a penny and your loans will be picked up and paid back at 7, 14, or 28 day intervals. The blockchain guarantees it and it's insured up to 97% anyway. Well within Lewdog's loss limit. Margin traders love to borrow money.

10K loaned out at .05/day is 150/month generated through savings. And your loan pool just gets bigger and you get paid more. I've had loans out for .085 many times (but they tend to repay faster).

The money is a day away at most if you hit that emergency.

Haven't looked into to it but if this is legit this is hands down the best idea yet.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 09-13-2021, 05:15 PM

I just don't get why people want to play it safe. Too many easy money plays out there. Hell , you can go buy one share each of the FAANG stocks and rake in 30%

Edit: Ok so I made a watch list 1/1/2018 for the FAANG's Since then (3 years 9 months)

FB 113%
AAPL 253%
Amzn 195%
NFLX 207%
GOOG 170%

Right now it takes $7420 to buy a total of 1 share of each

Hog's Gone Fishin · 09-13-2021, 05:34 PM

Interesting looking at BER.K stock

$420,801 per share

It went up 0.68% today which was a gain of $2847.00
After hours right now its up another $1930

It's gone from $320,000 to $420,000 in 12 months about 30%

**lewdog** · 09-13-2021, 06:30 PM

Feeling like euphoria in here. People not realizing stocks can get cut down quickly in a downturn. Don’t put cash you may need in an asset that can depreciate. Finances 101.

Do you guys have an emergency savings fund?

Hog's Gone Fishin · 09-13-2021, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog

Feeling like euphoria in here. People not realizing stocks can get cut down quickly in a downturn. Don’t put cash you may need in an asset that can depreciate. Finances 101.

Do you guys have an emergency savings fund?

No, those are a waste of an appreciable asset. When credit is so easily available as well as access to liquidating a stock portfolio it makes ZERO sense.

ThaVirus · 09-13-2021, 07:00 PM

I have probably like three year's worth of my current bills sitting in savings. I'm a super safe kind of guy, but even I can recognize that that's not doing me much good. I think my money market account gains something abysmal like .00025% interest.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 09-13-2021, 07:06 PM

If you can make 25% on your stocks and not need the money for 2 years you can take a 50% market crash and still be even. People hold these emergency funds for years and it's a waste. There's basically no emergency you can't use a credit card for to buy time until you liquidate an investment.

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eDave Banned Join Date: Jan 2013 Casino cash: $9998560	If it were me, I'd convert it all to the Crypto dollar (USDT) and put it up for lend. You won't lose a penny and your loans will be picked up and paid back at 7, 14, or 28 day intervals. The blockchain guarantees it and it's insured up to 97% anyway. Right at Lewdog's loss limit. Margin traders love to borrow money. 10K loaned out at .05/day is 150/month generated through savings. And your loan pool just gets bigger and you get paid more. I've had loans out for .085 many times (but they tend to repay faster). The money is, at most, 8 days away if you hit that emergency. Last edited by eDave; 09-13-2021 at 05:15 PM..
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Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-89523	I just don't get why people want to play it safe. Too many easy money plays out there. Hell , you can go buy one share each of the FAANG stocks and rake in 30% Edit: Ok so I made a watch list 1/1/2018 for the FAANG's Since then (3 years 9 months) FB 113% AAPL 253% Amzn 195% NFLX 207% GOOG 170% Right now it takes $7420 to buy a total of 1 share of each Last edited by Hog's Gone Fishin; 09-13-2021 at 05:25 PM..
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09-13-2021, 05:34 PM	#11381
Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-89523	Interesting looking at BER.K stock $420,801 per share It went up 0.68% today which was a gain of $2847.00 After hours right now its up another $1930 It's gone from $320,000 to $420,000 in 12 months about 30%
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09-13-2021, 06:30 PM	#11382
lewdog Mod Team Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Valley of the hot as **** Casino cash: $11900	Feeling like euphoria in here. People not realizing stocks can get cut down quickly in a downturn. Don’t put cash you may need in an asset that can depreciate. Finances 101. Do you guys have an emergency savings fund?
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09-13-2021, 07:00 PM	#11384
ThaVirus Grand champ Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $162369	I have probably like three year's worth of my current bills sitting in savings. I'm a super safe kind of guy, but even I can recognize that that's not doing me much good. I think my money market account gains something abysmal like .00025% interest.
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09-13-2021, 07:06 PM	#11385
Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-89523	If you can make 25% on your stocks and not need the money for 2 years you can take a 50% market crash and still be even. People hold these emergency funds for years and it's a waste. There's basically no emergency you can't use a credit card for to buy time until you liquidate an investment.
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