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Old 03-10-2017, 08:55 AM   #11371
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NEWS FLASH: You are going to have some misses in the draft.

At least Elway's misses still contribute to the team. Dorsey's 2014 draft is one of the worst I've ever seen and his 2016 draft had guys in it like Russell and Kevin Hogan.
A draft with a double digit sack artist, one of the best pass blocking G's in football and a decent backup G who has started several games is a horrible draft?

You need a mirror Knowmo. Denver's 2013 draft was far worse.
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Old 03-10-2017, 08:58 AM   #11372
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There are 3 guys from the 2014 draft that are productive.
There are 4 guys from the 2015 draft that are productive.

2016 - jury is still out, but there are 3-4 with good upside.

Again, it's all pissing for distance...
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Old 03-10-2017, 09:00 AM   #11373
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The UDFA market is one to look at too... Denver's had a handful of studs from there recently, Shaq Barrett comes to mind.
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Old 03-10-2017, 09:03 AM   #11375
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A draft with a double digit sack artist, one of the best pass blocking G's in football and a decent backup G who has started several games is a horrible draft?

You need a mirror Knowmo. Denver's 2013 draft was far worse.
Dee Ford was invisible for more than half of your games last year. LDT is an overpaid bum, and Elway has drafted plenty of backup lineman. You don't get credit for drafting "decent backups".

The 2013 draft as whole was bad, and the only reason the Chiefs did even halfway decent is because they had the first pick in every round.
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Not familiar with some of the names, but are you suggesting those are all great players that should still be on the roster? Unfortunately, Denver lost a few via FA after the SB win - always happens.

This doesn't include any UDFA's, correct?

And, some of those guys in the first 3 drafts ... it's not like they're out of the league, they're on other teams. Shit happens.
That's strictly drafted guys currently on the roster.

Good GMs build through the draft, develop their talent and keep as many of their own players as possible and rarely make big FA signings.

Elway is above average in the draft, runs coaches out of town and can't re-sign his own talent.

I mean, seriously...the 3 guys he still has from his first 3 drafts are a HOF quality pass rusher (that only signed because he got a contract worth 115m with 70 guaranteed) that publicly dissed Elway

A backup tight end

A DE with severe neck problems.

That's not the work of a great GM, sorry.
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Boss Chief doesn't understand that rookie contracts eventually expire.
KnowMo doesn't understand that part of a GMs job is to re-sign players before their contracts expire.

Silly kid.
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That's strictly drafted guys currently on the roster.

Good GMs build through the draft, develop their talent and keep as many of their own players as possible and rarely make big FA signings.

Elway is above average in the draft, runs coaches out of town and can't re-sign his own talent.

I mean, seriously...the 3 guys he still has from his first 3 drafts are a HOF quality pass rusher (that only signed because he got a contract worth 115m with 70 guaranteed) that publicly dissed Elway

A backup tight end

A DE with severe neck problems.

That's not the work of a great GM, sorry.
You're right, he's terrible. :-) Glad you guys finally have a good one.
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Dee Ford was invisible for more than half of your games last year. LDT is an overpaid bum, and Elway has drafted plenty of backup lineman. You don't get credit for drafting "decent backups".

The 2013 draft as whole was bad, and the only reason the Chiefs did even halfway decent is because they had the first pick in every round.
LDT would have been Denver's best lineman last season.
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Dee Ford was invisible for more than half of your games last year. LDT is an overpaid bum, and Elway has drafted plenty of backup lineman. You don't get credit for drafting "decent backups".

The 2013 draft as whole was bad, and the only reason the Chiefs did even halfway decent is because they had the first pick in every round.
Dee Ford alone was better than your entire draft class in 2013. All of those players are JAG's.

The Chiefs drafted Travis Kelce in the 3rd rd of that draft. Denver passed on him twice
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Knowmo won't admit t, but Denver was in a huge hole last year bc of Elway.

"We couldn't afford to pay for Malik, Brock, Trevathan!"

Yes you could. Instead you paid $$ to horrible JAG's like Donald Stephenson and Russell Okung bc your draft picks weren't good players who could play.

It's funny bc the Chiefs are able to keep their players but Denver can't? I wonder why
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Dee Ford alone was better than your entire draft class in 2013. All of those players are JAG's.

The Chiefs drafted Travis Kelce in the 3rd rd of that draft. Denver passed on him twice
All teams pass on great talent in the draft... KC passed on Dak 3 times in R4 alone last year.
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KnowMo doesn't understand that part of a GMs job is to re-sign players before their contracts expire.

Silly kid.
Elway did that with Chris Harris, Derek Wolfe, Brandon Marshall, and Emmanuel Sanders.
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LDT would have been Denver's best lineman last season.
Matt Paradis was the best center in the league last year.
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Dee Ford was invisible for more than half of your games last year. LDT is an overpaid bum, and Elway has drafted plenty of backup lineman. You don't get credit for drafting "decent backups".

The 2013 draft as whole was bad, and the only reason the Chiefs did even halfway decent is because they had the first pick in every round.
LDT being overpaid is an argument you could have made a few days ago, but after seeing Day 1 of FA, I'm not really sure that is much of an argument now.

And he is not a bum, he is AT WORST league average and pretty good on his better days.

As LoneWolf already pointed out, he was better than any guard on your roster last year.
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