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How a season-long rift between Mahomes and Bieniemy ruined the AFC Championship

Marcellus · 02-18-2022, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

Which doesn’t mean that he knows what goes on inside the Chiefs organization.

Sure but you don't think these guys around players and other reporters etc...all the time as their job don't hear and see things?

Come on you cant simply dismiss what Albright said like you can dismiss Clay and Marty.

Home corroborating the OL speaking up to one of the coaches at half time for example, he had obviously heard that story as well.

I remember when everyone (including me) dismissed Whitlock when he exposed how much of a fraud and dysfunctional Pioli and Haley were, where did his info come from?

Marcellus · 02-18-2022, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

If that’s the case…then what the **** does it matter if he’s here or not?

If there is friction over game planning or play calling on any level its unnecessary friction.

**The Franchise** · 02-18-2022, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Sure but you don't think these guys around players and other reporters etc...all the time as their job don't hear and see things?

Come on you cant simply dismiss what Albright said like you can dismiss Clay and Marty.

Home corroborating the OL speaking up to one of the coaches at half time for example, he had obviously heard that story as well.

I remember when everyone (including me) dismissed Whitlock when he exposed how much of a fraud and dysfunctional Pioli and Haley were, where did his info come from?

I’m going to dismiss about 90% of what was in that article. Do I believe that an offensive lineman could have stood up? Sure.

Do I believe that it was written in Bienemy’s contract or that what was said on the headset is true? **** no. Most of that article was garbage and fluff.

Oh and Albright and Nate Taylor are nothing alike outside of they write stuff on a computer.

**The Franchise** · 02-18-2022, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

If there is friction over game planning or play calling on any level its unnecessary friction.

Which is why I want him gone. But this talk of bringing in someone else because of play calling isn’t going to change because of Reid.

Reid is Reid. Someone coming in and telling him to run the ball more is laughable.

htismaqe · 02-18-2022, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

I want him gone but if Reid is the true OC…then it doesn’t really matter outside of some rah-rah bullshit with the players.

We know EB has a headset. If his presence in Pat's ear is a hindrance in any way, even if he doesn't call every play, he needs to be done here.

stumppy · 02-18-2022, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Uhh, that's not necessarily true. Whose to say he wouldn't be one of the most popular OC candidates around. Up to now it's only been HC opportunities.

Yup! Some people climb the ladder just so far and that's it. It doesn't mean they are bad at their current job. This may be especially true when it comes to EB.

JFC, the Chiefs have been to 4 AFCCG's, won 2, 2 Superbowl's, and won 1. And now people think what's holding the Chiefs back is the OC during the last 4 years?

I think the most laughable part of any of this, and there are a lot of things, is the idea that EB has complete control over play calling.

raybec 4 · 02-18-2022, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Because you could get a guy with a fresher message that's better at the other things?

What exactly has EB done here other than hitch a ride?

If you really see things that way you must view Andy as a pretty poor evaluator of value. I doubt he would keep EB on staff as his OC for 4 years and not feel like he was getting real value from his contributions. That's just my perspective. If Andy didn't see EB as an important piece of the puzzle I doubt they would have brought him back on his 1 year deal last season.

htismaqe · 02-18-2022, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

Which is why I want him gone. But this talk of bringing in someone else because of play calling isn’t going to change because of Reid.

Reid is Reid. Someone coming in and telling him to run the ball more is laughable.

It's not about that kind of input. It's all the other stuff that comes with it. I want to see fresh ideas, regardless of what they are. EB has been here long enough. The whole reason to give him a 1-year deal last year was to help him find a HC job. It's obvious that's never going to happen so it's simply time to move on.

**The Franchise** · 02-18-2022, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

We know EB has a headset. If his presence in Pat's ear is a hindrance in any way, even if he doesn't call every play, he needs to be done here.

I think the slow relaying of play calling (which is a known fact) and the constant talk about why he’s not a HC by now are the reasons why I want him gone.

htismaqe · 02-18-2022, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by stumppy

Yup! Some people climb the ladder just so far and that's it. It doesn't mean they are bad at their current job. This may be especially true when it comes to EB.

JFC, the Chiefs have been to 4 AFCCG's, won 2, 2 Superbowl's, and won 1. And now people think what's holding the Chiefs back is the OC during the last 4 years?

I think the most laughable part of any of this, and there are a lot of things, is the idea that EB has complete control over play calling.

Holding them back? Or preventing them from moving forward?

Those can be two different things.

-King- · 02-18-2022, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Man, if even 50% of its true EB clearly has to go

This article makes a helluva lot more sense than saying Mahomes threw the game in a fit of rage, or that Goodell called the locker room at half and told them to take a dive

That's your baseline? If something makes more sense than 100% corruption? Really?

**The Franchise** · 02-18-2022, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Holding them back? Or preventing them from moving forward?

Those can be two different things.

I don’t think it’s either one. I think he’s preventing them from evolving. OCs shouldn’t be in the same job for 4 years. Shit gets stale.

htismaqe · 02-18-2022, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4

If you really see things that way you must view Andy as a pretty poor evaluator of value. I doubt he would keep EB on staff as his OC for 4 years and not feel like he was getting real value from his contributions. That's just my perspective. If Andy didn't see EB as an important piece of the puzzle I doubt they would have brought him back on his 1 year deal last season.

They brought him back on a 1-year deal to help him get a HC job. They thought he was going to get one 2 years ago and when he didn't, they decided to ride it out.

It's obvious now that he's never going to be a HC. No sense in stringing him along anymore.

htismaqe · 02-18-2022, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

I don’t think it’s either one. I think he’s preventing them from evolving. OCs shouldn’t be in the same job for 4 years. Shit gets stale.

Well this was kind of my point.

**The Franchise** · 02-18-2022, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

That's your baseline? If something makes more sense than 100% corruption? Really?

And now you see why this shit spread the way it did.

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