*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****

[Dante84]

IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Funny thing is you look at the stats for that game, you would not know he was playing injured. 500+ yards, over 72% completions. We scored 28 points in the first half and only 10 points in the 2nd half, which goes to show what I said about how he played each half. He was the usual incredible Pat in the first half. Wanna say he was over 80% completions in the first half. Comes out second half and our worst fears were confirmed. No zip on the ball. Dead arm.

I will say this though. Pat did not play many games in 2015 and 2016 healthy. In 2015 he suffered a bad knee injury against TCU early in the season (Game 4) and was a different guy the rest of the year. In 2016 he suffered a bad throwing shoulder injury in Game 4 against Kansas (week before K-State game) and was a different guy the rest of the year.

This is my biggest concern for him. He has insane talent, but he plays the game very hard and takes a lot of big hits. He has to protect himself if he wants to succeed in the NFL. If you don't stay healthy then all that talent goes to waste.

Mahomes 2017 Scouting Report.

http://www.thehuddlereport.com/archi...ck.Mahomes.htm

Spoiler!

STRENGTHS:
Patrick plays football with this “eerie type of calmness”. He has a quick release and throws a natural ball with the correct velocity and touch when needed. He’s a pure pocket passer with enough athletic talent to move around and extend plays when he needs to. Patrick is sneaky good. He makes plays that surprise you during a game because of this calm way he goes about doing his job. He is very accurate and with his natural quick release shocks you with his arm strength. He handles playing in a muddy pocket very well because of his confidence in how quickly and accurately he can get rid of the ball under duress. Patrick is what I would call a natural at playing the position of quarterback physically but he will have to step it up mentally at the next level to become more than a natural quarterback, he needs to become a “complete” quarterback.

CONCERNS:
Patrick still has a lot to learn about the quarterback position mentally. His leadership skills are through his play on the field and I do not believe that will change much as he gains experience. He seems to be quiet, but forceful enough in his play to gain the respect of his coaches and teammates. Patrick has a habit of turning the ball over when he throws off his back foot. He has to learn to move in the pocket and re-set when that happens to re-gain his mechanics and velocity on his throws.

BOTTOM LINE:
This kid is a natural. It’s kind of scary because with this natural talent his potential is enormous. I watch him on film and he never seems to change his play no matter what the score is. He just goes out on to the field with a workman like attitude and starts throwing the ball and making plays. He’s the same if he is playing from behind or if his team is in front. As soon as he learns to take better care of the football and not throw interceptions he becomes a dangerous quarterback to go up against in any game and with any score on the score board. Patrick doesn’t have the arm strength of Packers Aaron Rodgers but he does have the potential to become as impacting a quarterback. He’s a natural and plays with the same demeanor that Aaron has on this field. Patrick is your sleeper quarterback in this draft.

Drew Boylhart JAN.2017

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Mahomes 2017 Scouting Report.

http://www.thehuddlereport.com/archi...ck.Mahomes.htm

Spoiler!

STRENGTHS:
Patrick plays football with this “eerie type of calmness”. He has a quick release and throws a natural ball with the correct velocity and touch when needed. He’s a pure pocket passer with enough athletic talent to move around and extend plays when he needs to. Patrick is sneaky good. He makes plays that surprise you during a game because of this calm way he goes about doing his job. He is very accurate and with his natural quick release shocks you with his arm strength. He handles playing in a muddy pocket very well because of his confidence in how quickly and accurately he can get rid of the ball under duress. Patrick is what I would call a natural at playing the position of quarterback physically but he will have to step it up mentally at the next level to become more than a natural quarterback, he needs to become a “complete” quarterback.

CONCERNS:
Patrick still has a lot to learn about the quarterback position mentally. His leadership skills are through his play on the field and I do not believe that will change much as he gains experience. He seems to be quiet, but forceful enough in his play to gain the respect of his coaches and teammates. Patrick has a habit of turning the ball over when he throws off his back foot. He has to learn to move in the pocket and re-set when that happens to re-gain his mechanics and velocity on his throws.

BOTTOM LINE:
This kid is a natural. It’s kind of scary because with this natural talent his potential is enormous. I watch him on film and he never seems to change his play no matter what the score is. He just goes out on to the field with a workman like attitude and starts throwing the ball and making plays. He’s the same if he is playing from behind or if his team is in front. As soon as he learns to take better care of the football and not throw interceptions he becomes a dangerous quarterback to go up against in any game and with any score on the score board. Patrick doesn’t have the arm strength of Packers Aaron Rodgers but he does have the potential to become as impacting a quarterback. He’s a natural and plays with the same demeanor that Aaron has on this field. Patrick is your sleeper quarterback in this draft.

Drew Boylhart JAN.2017

Not sure what that guy is smoking. When healthy, Mahomes has every bit the arm strength of Aaron Rodgers. The question is not physical talent. The question is the mental side of the game, including the ability to protect himself. If he stays healthy and learns to make good decisions with the football, the sky is the limit.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Not sure what that guy is smoking. When healthy, Mahomes has every bit the arm strength of Aaron Rodgers. The question is not physical talent. The question is the mental side of the game, including the ability to protect himself. If he stays healthy and learns to make good decisions with the football, the sky is the limit.

Dan Marino compared Mahomes to himself only "with wheels" now Dan Marino was a statue but had a long productive career and protected himself.

I think we are going see a marvelous quarterback and will make people say how did he do that?

I think him rolling out to the left and chucking it deep across field to a streaking Tyreek Hill downfield is going be a thing that the NFL wont have much of an answer for.

[RunKC]

That pass to Demetrius Harris in Denver was so incredible. He threaded the needle on a pass that went 33 yards in the air over the top of a DB just high enough for Harris to get it and out of the DB’s reach.

That’s insane downfield accuracy.

[RunKC]

And for reference, that game was one of the 5 coldest games in Broncos history and Pat had no problem throwing bombs.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Speaking of 810, what’s the deal with TJ carpenter? He left for Denver and has become the biggest one who sucks the penis on the planet. He’s saying Andy doesn’t trust Mahomes and that he’s too young.

TJ Carpenter so clearly modeled his entire style on Colin Cowherd. It was BIZARRE to listen to. Like watching Philip Phillips do his best Dave Matthews impression.

That, mixed with him drinking the Keitzman cooled of bloated jackassery, made him one of the most insufferable ****s to sit in front of a microphone and talk about sports.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

TJ Carpenter so clearly modeled his entire style on Colin Cowherd. It was BIZARRE to listen to. Like watching Philip Phillips do his best Dave Matthews impression.

That, mixed with him drinking the Keitzman cooled of bloated jackassery, made him one of the most insufferable ****s to sit in front of a microphone and talk about sports.

So why was he fired? I still haven’t been able to figure it out

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

So why was he fired? I still haven’t been able to figure it out

I hear his ego and doucheness was a growing problem along with his twitter shit and apparently doing something stupid at an 810 event at the bar that hosted them (heard he got drunk and acted a fool).

Cody Tapp is also light years better than him. 810 made a good move to go with Tapp over that insufferable jackass.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Dan Marino compared Mahomes to himself only "with wheels" now Dan Marino was a statue but had a long productive career and protected himself.

I think we are going see a marvelous quarterback and will make people say how did he do that?

I think him rolling out to the left and chucking it deep across field to a streaking Tyreek Hill downfield is going be a thing that the NFL wont have much of an answer for.

Mahomes has HOF arm talent. Watching the games to see if he reaches his potential?

This will be an awesome ride.

[Halfcan]

Kansas City Chiefs All-time Passing Leaders
The following are the alltime Kansas City Chiefs Passing leaders, sorted by passing yards. Included are player passing stats for the Kansas City Chiefs (NFL) from 1970-2018, the Kansas City Chiefs (AFL) from 1963-1969 and the Dallas Texans (AFL) from 1960-1962. Len Dawson is the alltime Kansas City Chiefs leader in passing yards with 28,507.

Players active with the Kansas City Chiefs during the 2017 NFL season are listed in bold.

Player Seasons Att Cmp Pct Yds YPA TD Int Lg Rate
Len Dawson 1962-75 3,696 2,115 57.2 28,507 7.7 237 178 92t 83.2
Trent Green 2001-06 2,777 1,720 61.9 21,459 7.7 118 85 99t 87.3
Alex Smith 2013-18 2,436 1,587 65.1 17,608 7.2 102 33 80t 94.8
Bill Kenney 1979-88 2,430 1,330 54.7 17,277 7.1 105 86 84t 77.0
Steve DeBerg 1988-91 1,616 934 57.8 11,873 7.3 67 50 90t 81.8
Mike Livingston 1968-79 1,751 912 52.1 11,295 6.5 56 83 93t 63.3
Elvis Grbac 1997-00 1,548 897 57.9 10,643 6.9 66 47 86t 80.6
Matt Cassel 2009-12 1,489 854 57.4 9,549 6.4 59 44 75t 77.5
Steve Bono 1994-96 1,075 594 55.3 6,489 6.0 37 27 69 74.3
Joe Montana 1993-94 791 480 60.7 5,427 6.9 29 16 57t 85.0
Steve Fuller 1979-82 817 465 56.9 5,333 6.5 22 32 77 69.4
Cotton Davidson 1960-62 709 330 46.5 4,919 6.9 32 39 74t 61.9
Damon Huard 2005-08 657 404 61.5 4,612 7.0 24 18 78 83.3
Todd Blackledge 1983-87 742 364 49.1 4,510 6.1 26 32 70t 62.0
Dave Krieg 1992-93 602 335 55.6 4,353 7.2 22 15 77t 80.4
Rich Gannon 1995-98 630 365 57.9 3,997 6.3 23 11 80t 81.7
Tyler Thigpen 2007-09 426 232 54.5 2,649 6.2 18 13 75 74.7
Tony Adams 1975-78 319 163 51.1 2,126 6.7 9 22 63 53.1
Brodie Croyle 2006-10 319 181 56.7 1,669 5.2 8 9 50 67.8
Pete Beathard 1964-67,73 254 110 43.3 1,649 6.5 8 13 77 54.4
Brady Quinn 2012 197 112 56.9 1,141 5.8 2 8 57 60.1
Eddie Wilson 1962-64 140 70 50.0 994 7.1 4 3 55 73.9
Tyler Palko 2010-11 140 84 60.0 831 5.9 2 7 38t 60.7
Kyle Orton 2011 97 59 60.8 779 8.0 1 2 49 81.1
Jacky Lee 1967-69 84 43 51.2 597 7.1 5 4 61t 74.4
Nick Foles 2016 55 36 65.5 410 7.5 3 0 49 105.9
Chase Daniel 2013-15 68 43 63.2 409 6.0 1 1 48 78.6
Ron Jaworski 1989 61 36 59.0 385 6.3 2 5 32 54.3
Randy Duncan 1961 67 25 37.3 361 5.4 1 3 47 41.9
Hunter Enis 1960 54 30 55.6 357 6.6 1 2 39 66.7
Frank Seurer 1986-87 55 26 47.3 340 6.2 0 4 33 36.9
Mark Vlasic 1991-92 44 28 63.6 316 7.2 2 0 30 100.2
Steve Pelluer 1989-91 52 28 53.8 315 6.1 1 1 24 70.6
Matt Stevens 1987 57 32 56.1 315 5.5 1 1 23 70.4
Patrick Mahomes 2017-18 35 22 62.9 284 8.1 0 1 51 76.4
Todd Collins 1998-05 27 18 66.7 229 8.5 1 0 42 105.3
Warren Moon 1999-00 37 16 43.2 228 6.2 1 1 41 61.5
Dean Carlson 1972-74 15 7 46.7 116 7.7 0 1 34 45.4
Ed Podolak 1969-77 6 4 66.7 82 13.7 0 1 24 70.1
Tom Clements 1980 12 7 58.3 77 6.4 0 0 18 77.4
Quinn Gray 2008 8 7 87.5 76 9.5 1 0 26 145.8
Alex Espinoza 1987 14 9 64.3 69 4.9 0 2 16 36.6
Sandy Osiecki 1984 17 7 41.2 64 3.8 0 1 19 27.6
Mark Bradley 2008-09 2 2 100.0 63 31.5 1 0 37t 158.3
Danan Hughes 1993-98 2 2 100.0 55 27.5 0 0 30 118.8
Warren McVea 1969-71,73 4 1 25.0 50 12.5 1 0 50t 118.8
Carlos Carson 1980-89 1 1 100.0 48 48.0 1 0 48t 158.3
Mike Nott 1976 10 4 40.0 46 4.6 0 0 23 54.6
Walter White 1975-79 2 1 50.0 44 22.0 0 1 44 56.3
Tony Gonzalez 1997-08 1 1 100.0 40 40.0 0 0 40 118.8
KEY: Gms = Games Played, Att = Pass Attempts, Cmp = Pass Completions, Pct = Pass Completion Percentage, Yds = Passing Yards, YPA = Yards Per Pass Attempt, TD = Touchdown Passes, TD% = Touchdown Pass Percentage, Int = Intercepted Passes, Int% = Pass Interception Percentage, Lg = Longest Pass Completion, Sack = Passing Sacks, Loss = Sack Yards Lost, Rate = Passer Rating

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I hear his ego and doucheness was a growing problem along with his twitter shit and apparently doing something stupid at an 810 event at the bar that hosted them (heard he got drunk and acted a fool).

Cody Tapp is also light years better than him. 810 made a good move to go with Tapp over that insufferable jackass.

Interesting. He seemed like a twat on radio and is an even bigger dickhead on Twitter.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Kansas City Chiefs All-time Passing Leaders
The following are the alltime Kansas City Chiefs Passing leaders, sorted by passing yards. Included are player passing stats for the Kansas City Chiefs (NFL) from 1970-2018, the Kansas City Chiefs (AFL) from 1963-1969 and the Dallas Texans (AFL) from 1960-1962. Len Dawson is the alltime Kansas City Chiefs leader in passing yards with 28,507.

Players active with the Kansas City Chiefs during the 2017 NFL season are listed in bold.

Player Seasons Att Cmp Pct Yds YPA TD Int Lg Rate
Len Dawson 1962-75 3,696 2,115 57.2 28,507 7.7 237 178 92t 83.2
Trent Green 2001-06 2,777 1,720 61.9 21,459 7.7 118 85 99t 87.3
Alex Smith 2013-18 2,436 1,587 65.1 17,608 7.2 102 33 80t 94.8
Bill Kenney 1979-88 2,430 1,330 54.7 17,277 7.1 105 86 84t 77.0
Steve DeBerg 1988-91 1,616 934 57.8 11,873 7.3 67 50 90t 81.8
Mike Livingston 1968-79 1,751 912 52.1 11,295 6.5 56 83 93t 63.3
Elvis Grbac 1997-00 1,548 897 57.9 10,643 6.9 66 47 86t 80.6
Matt Cassel 2009-12 1,489 854 57.4 9,549 6.4 59 44 75t 77.5
Steve Bono 1994-96 1,075 594 55.3 6,489 6.0 37 27 69 74.3
Joe Montana 1993-94 791 480 60.7 5,427 6.9 29 16 57t 85.0
Steve Fuller 1979-82 817 465 56.9 5,333 6.5 22 32 77 69.4
Cotton Davidson 1960-62 709 330 46.5 4,919 6.9 32 39 74t 61.9
Damon Huard 2005-08 657 404 61.5 4,612 7.0 24 18 78 83.3
Todd Blackledge 1983-87 742 364 49.1 4,510 6.1 26 32 70t 62.0
Dave Krieg 1992-93 602 335 55.6 4,353 7.2 22 15 77t 80.4
Rich Gannon 1995-98 630 365 57.9 3,997 6.3 23 11 80t 81.7
Tyler Thigpen 2007-09 426 232 54.5 2,649 6.2 18 13 75 74.7
Tony Adams 1975-78 319 163 51.1 2,126 6.7 9 22 63 53.1
Brodie Croyle 2006-10 319 181 56.7 1,669 5.2 8 9 50 67.8
Pete Beathard 1964-67,73 254 110 43.3 1,649 6.5 8 13 77 54.4
Brady Quinn 2012 197 112 56.9 1,141 5.8 2 8 57 60.1
Eddie Wilson 1962-64 140 70 50.0 994 7.1 4 3 55 73.9
Tyler Palko 2010-11 140 84 60.0 831 5.9 2 7 38t 60.7
Kyle Orton 2011 97 59 60.8 779 8.0 1 2 49 81.1
Jacky Lee 1967-69 84 43 51.2 597 7.1 5 4 61t 74.4
Nick Foles 2016 55 36 65.5 410 7.5 3 0 49 105.9
Chase Daniel 2013-15 68 43 63.2 409 6.0 1 1 48 78.6
Ron Jaworski 1989 61 36 59.0 385 6.3 2 5 32 54.3
Randy Duncan 1961 67 25 37.3 361 5.4 1 3 47 41.9
Hunter Enis 1960 54 30 55.6 357 6.6 1 2 39 66.7
Frank Seurer 1986-87 55 26 47.3 340 6.2 0 4 33 36.9
Mark Vlasic 1991-92 44 28 63.6 316 7.2 2 0 30 100.2
Steve Pelluer 1989-91 52 28 53.8 315 6.1 1 1 24 70.6
Matt Stevens 1987 57 32 56.1 315 5.5 1 1 23 70.4
Patrick Mahomes 2017-18 35 22 62.9 284 8.1 0 1 51 76.4
Todd Collins 1998-05 27 18 66.7 229 8.5 1 0 42 105.3
Warren Moon 1999-00 37 16 43.2 228 6.2 1 1 41 61.5
Dean Carlson 1972-74 15 7 46.7 116 7.7 0 1 34 45.4
Ed Podolak 1969-77 6 4 66.7 82 13.7 0 1 24 70.1
Tom Clements 1980 12 7 58.3 77 6.4 0 0 18 77.4
Quinn Gray 2008 8 7 87.5 76 9.5 1 0 26 145.8
Alex Espinoza 1987 14 9 64.3 69 4.9 0 2 16 36.6
Sandy Osiecki 1984 17 7 41.2 64 3.8 0 1 19 27.6
Mark Bradley 2008-09 2 2 100.0 63 31.5 1 0 37t 158.3
Danan Hughes 1993-98 2 2 100.0 55 27.5 0 0 30 118.8
Warren McVea 1969-71,73 4 1 25.0 50 12.5 1 0 50t 118.8
Carlos Carson 1980-89 1 1 100.0 48 48.0 1 0 48t 158.3
Mike Nott 1976 10 4 40.0 46 4.6 0 0 23 54.6
Walter White 1975-79 2 1 50.0 44 22.0 0 1 44 56.3
Tony Gonzalez 1997-08 1 1 100.0 40 40.0 0 0 40 118.8
KEY: Gms = Games Played, Att = Pass Attempts, Cmp = Pass Completions, Pct = Pass Completion Percentage, Yds = Passing Yards, YPA = Yards Per Pass Attempt, TD = Touchdown Passes, TD% = Touchdown Pass Percentage, Int = Intercepted Passes, Int% = Pass Interception Percentage, Lg = Longest Pass Completion, Sack = Passing Sacks, Loss = Sack Yards Lost, Rate = Passer Rating

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[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Funny thing is you look at the stats for that game, you would not know he was playing injured. 500+ yards, over 72% completions. We scored 28 points in the first half and only 10 points in the 2nd half, which goes to show what I said about how he played each half. He was the usual incredible Pat in the first half. Wanna say he was over 80% completions in the first half. Comes out second half and our worst fears were confirmed. No zip on the ball. Dead arm.

I will say this though. Pat did not play many games in 2015 and 2016 healthy. In 2015 he suffered a bad knee injury against TCU early in the season (Game 4) and was a different guy the rest of the year. In 2016 he suffered a bad throwing shoulder injury in Game 4 against Kansas (week before K-State game) and was a different guy the rest of the year.

This is my biggest concern for him. He has insane talent, but he plays the game very hard and takes a lot of big hits. He has to protect himself if he wants to succeed in the NFL. If you don't stay healthy then all that talent goes to waste.

My biggest fear. He wasnt exactly iron man in college.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

Please NEvER EVER copy and paste again.

Yep, it looks like crap. I planned on fixing it but got busy.

Mahomes will break every record that the Chiefs have. Look how far he went up the list after 1 game.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

My biggest fear. He wasnt exactly iron man in college.

Yeah, and this is why I'll never fault a QB for sliding or running out of bounds or just going full Manning on a blitzer unblocked.

The Qb is more valuable than an extra first down diving headfirst in the 2nd quarter or whatever.

Obviously situations vary, if it's the fourth quarter and we've gotta have a first down or whatever, do it.

But otherwise, do what Russel Wilson does and protect yourself.