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Old 02-09-2025, 08:08 PM  
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Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect
I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen
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Old 02-14-2025, 10:01 PM   #1081
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I’ll say this for Jackson, his build is near identical to Dion Dawkins.

His arms are 2.5 inches shorter and I doubt the foot quickness is the same, but if he can anchor and he obviously can, you’d hope that’s someone they take a long look at.
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Old 02-14-2025, 10:01 PM   #1082
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Not necessarily the end-all-be-all evaluator either though and I respect Brugler as much as anyone.

He's the 13th prospect on ESPN's board with Simmons at 10th and them being the top two OL prospects.
Zeurlein has him with a higher rank than Simmons.

Shit is all over the place.


All I know is this, way back when Andy Reid said "I want two offensive tackles, a quarterback, two pass rushers, two corners, and I'll figure the rest out."

Well.... we have a Mahomes at QB, two pass rushers (Karlaftis and Jones), two corners (Watson and MCDuffie) and a passable RT in Taylor.

Reid will be fully up Veach's ass to get this done.

I fully expect the options to be:

1. Alaric Jackson
2. Ronnie Stanley
3. Re-sign DJ Humphries
4. Dan Moore Jr

If not 1 or 2 then I think we will try to draft another OT.

I expect Simmons to be a top-10 pick. He's the best OT in this draft and the only absolute guy at the position in this draft. I could be off base with that projection because of his injury but I've seen shit happen. I mean, you better be IN IN if you're going up to get this guy because it's going to cost a fortune.
I do not think that Will Campbell will be seen as an OT. He has TRex arms. There are serious concerns he will come in well under 33".
Banks and Conerly aren't too dissimilar although I see more chatter about Banks at OG. Whichever one goes top-15 probably pushes the other to top-25. You better be damned sure about either of them if you're spending two 1s and 3 or a 1, 2, and 3 to go up to 15/16 for one. I think if one might make it to 24 and that lets you slide up with Minnesota by swapping our 3/66 for their 3/97.
Ersery is a borderline 1st rounder and not a great fit for a team that passes a lot IMO. Foot speed in pass pro is a concern. I don't think I'd feel any better about taking him here than I would taking Anthony Belton in the 2nd or 3rd round.
Jackson from OSU as the LG to LT convert just doesn't jive with me either. He labors in his kick slide and his foot speed going to the pros is a concern. I love him at LG though, beast.
Savaiinaea and Membou are RTs at best, probably RGs.


I've come to the sad realization that we have to hope for another franchise to kind of drop the ball or get really lucky that a guy drops within a reasonable range for us in the draft.

I'd burn picks to get to 15/16. I don't think I could burn the picks to get to 10 though.
We've got too many holes to do that shit at this point. I'm not excited about that at all.
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Old 02-14-2025, 10:03 PM   #1083
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It's totally gonna be Wills.
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Old 02-14-2025, 10:10 PM   #1084
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It's totally gonna be Wills.
I hope so. I’d offer him and Humphries to compete then draft Belton in round 2.
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Old 02-14-2025, 10:23 PM   #1085
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When was OB solid? he wans to be an LT, doesn't mean he is.
never solid in my book..I guess comparing him against whoever makes him look that that
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Old 02-14-2025, 10:24 PM   #1086
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We've got too many holes to do that shit at this point. I'm not excited about that at all.
I know you're traditionally really conservative about draft picks but, honestly, the only hole I care about filling is LT. Like you, I HOPE that we don't have to trade the farm but if that's what it takes then I think you just swallow the pill. The rest of the holes are what they are. Pencil in vet minimum guys if you need to.

It's kind of at the point where it has to be fixed, even if that does mean giving up most of a draft to go get a dude at 10. Just be damned sure the guy fits and you're fairly confident he doesn't need to sit on the development train for years. I'd also argue that if this is the strategy, give it all up now. If you miss, well, you're probably going to be in a better spot to take one next year. Hate to be out a 1st rounder. If Chicago takes 1-31, 2-63, 3-66, and 4-132 for 1-10 and you grab Simmons, well so be it in my opinion.
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Old 02-14-2025, 10:25 PM   #1087
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Good either way. I’d rather bring DJ Humphries back for cheap rather than pay this broke dick any semblance of our cap.
Veach would pay 21m per for Stanley in a heartbeat I'd think.
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Old 02-14-2025, 10:25 PM   #1088
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I hope so. I’d offer him and Humphries to compete then draft Belton in round 2.
Honestly, not a bad low cost plan at all.

It's not like you wouldn't have Kingsley and Morris to continue to develop as well. Driskell looked pretty good for an UDFA rookie. At least somebody has to be adequate
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Old 02-14-2025, 10:28 PM   #1089
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Veach would pay 21m per for Stanley in a heartbeat I'd think.
I feel like these sites are using our current cap space and not considering that Mahomes contract is designed to be restructured to free up $20M+ in space every year.
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I'm really going to love it When Sumateiaaiai becomes the LT that Reid saw in him.
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Old 02-14-2025, 10:29 PM   #1091
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Honestly, not a bad low cost plan at all.

It's not like you wouldn't have Kingsley and Morris to continue to develop as well. Driskell looked pretty good for an UDFA rookie. At least somebody has to be adequate
I'd be okay with signing Humphries and drafting Belton in 2 and letting all the youngin's compete... but **** if I'm on board with signing Wills. The guy has had 5 years to fix his shit technique and he's still shit.
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Veach would pay 21m per for Stanley in a heartbeat I'd think.
Yeah if your price range is under $20M for a left tackle, you're going to get bupkis.
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I'd be okay with signing Humphries and drafting Belton in 2 and letting all the youngin's compete... but **** if I'm on board with signing Wills. The guy has had 5 years to fix his shit technique and he's still shit.
You have to take into mind he is in Cleveland. Why not take a cheap chance on a guy that could still develop.
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Veach would pay 21m per for Stanley in a heartbeat I'd think.
The problem with Stanley is he only played 1 full season in his last big contract. Missed a lot of games every year. And that one year was last year in a contract year. I would beware of false hope with him
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You have to take into mind he is in Cleveland. Why not take a cheap chance on a guy that could still develop.
Cleveland routinely pumps out a lot of good offensive lineman. I wouldn't call it a Cleveland problem. Wills needs to put in the work and doesn't. He's been called out as lazy/lacking effort. Even Joe Thomas has said he'd be available to help him out if Wills ever asked and he never has. Yeah, I'm 100% out. Don't care if he was a top 10 pick.
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