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Old 01-17-2017, 12:35 PM  
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MELLINGER: Should The Chiefs Move On From Smith?
Yep, another Alex Smith thread - but a solid and fair read from Sam Mellinger.

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The only way forward is through brutal honesty and realistic self-evaluation. No sport moves as quickly, or with such little empathy, as the NFL.

Only fools assume what happened in the past will continue to happen in the future, unless that assumption is “the Patriots will win every year from now until armageddon because Bill Belichick is an alien.”

And so it is that this particular group of Chiefs players and executives attempt to solve a puzzle that no group of Chiefs players and executives has solved since 1970, which is so long ago CBS erased the tape to save money:

Get to the Super Bowl.

And it’s hard to believe that will happen without addressing the quarterback situation.

This is not a call for the Chiefs to walk away from Alex Smith, even though this is the first offseason since his arrival in which they could do it without a fatal salary cap hit. This is a call for them to look, to try, to make sure they don’t have access to a better option — whether that’s Tony Romo in a trade, Deshaun Watson in the draft (which would almost certainly require a trade up), or anything else.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy
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Old 01-31-2017, 12:03 AM   #1081
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Old 01-31-2017, 02:16 AM   #1082
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McCarron is ****ing garbage.
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Old 01-31-2017, 07:28 AM   #1083
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What's good for the QB is good for all.

I have been informed that the Chiefs will no longer be attending the NFL draft and that the franchise has traded it's picks to the league for first crack, untouchable rights to all free agents, restricted and non-restricted.
I have been tasked by John Dorsey to begin calling the GM's of several franchises to inquire about all of their available garbages.
Any current Chiefs who were drafted by the Chiefs are now available for trade.
Give us a call!
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Old 01-31-2017, 08:54 AM   #1084
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Old 01-31-2017, 09:01 AM   #1085
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Sadly, this is true until proven otherwise. With the legit picks that KC has passed on, it is most certainly not a matter of "nothing good available".
That's hindsight, Reid and Dorsey live in the real world. A lot of Chief fans wanted to draft Geno Smith which shows how much a lot of fans know about the QB position.

Let Reid and Dorsey make the decisions. They are paid professionals with a proven track record, they'll figure it out. Alex Smith is good enough for now...

Draft a QB if a good one is there when we have a pick don't just do it to do it.
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Don't forget Maury Over AJ McCaron
Reid wanted his boy Foles as soon as he became available. It's very likely McCarron would have been kicked to the curb just like Murray was. They're basically equally shitty QBs. It's just one is a big pile of shit and one is a midget pile of shit
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That's hindsight, Reid and Dorsey live in the real world. A lot of Chief fans wanted to draft Geno Smith which shows how much a lot of fans know about the QB position.

Let Reid and Dorsey make the decisions. They are paid professionals with a proven track record, they'll figure it out. Alex Smith is good enough for now...

Draft a QB if a good one is there when we have a pick don't just do it to do it.
Umm, no he's not and he has a long track record that proves he's not good enough for now.
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Reid wanted his boy Foles as soon as he became available. It's very likely McCarron would have been kicked to the curb just like Murray was. They're basically equally shitty QBs. It's just one is a big pile of shit and one is a midget pile of shit
not the same at all. McCarron will have a chance to start in the NFL at some point, his small sample size in 2015 of actual game action proves that. Murray will be out of the league sooner than later
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not the same at all. McCarron will have a chance to start in the NFL at some point, his small sample size in 2015 of actual game action proves that. Murray will be out of the league sooner than later
I'm more than convinced that the path these undrafted/late round QBs go through often isn't a matter of merit. Yeah, sometimes it is, but only in the case that we expose QBs who simply "never were."

How else can backup QBs look great in action with teams and then super shitty when traded and handed a real job? Why is AJ Feeley winning games and even putting up an occasional 300 yard game in Philly yet struggling like shit with the Dolphins? Matt Cassel is hardly good, but if he's so bad, surely he would be able to **** up the Patriots system and Randy Moss back in 2008. But he didn't. And how did he even come that far?

If Kurt Warner tossed rainbows and raped in his very first year as a starting QB in 1999, why the hell is that kind of play not visible to talent scouts and coaches in the offseason? Why did it take him so long to come up to speed with the Rams? If Trent Green doesn't get cheap shotted by Rodney Harrison, and has a fairly successful and consistent career in St. Louis, does Warner even get discovered?

McCarron played backup-level football. And honestly, I think Murray could have done an equal job as Foles and perhaps even Daniel had we ever depended on him to start a game. Does that make him a good QB? Not at all, but if he does produce those starts the way McCarron was relied on, all of a sudden the Chiefs have a thing to be sold for picks and perhaps even talked about as a challenger for the future of the starting QB position instead of a punchline on fan forums.

And I'm in no way defending Murray. All I'm doing is saying McCarron needs to ****ing prove he has more than his backup stint in 2015 to call him this thing that's way more valuable than the other QB gambles we take in the late rounds of the draft.
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That's hindsight, Reid and Dorsey live in the real world. A lot of Chief fans wanted to draft Geno Smith which shows how much a lot of fans know about the QB position.

Let Reid and Dorsey make the decisions. They are paid professionals with a proven track record, they'll figure it out. Alex Smith is good enough for now...

Draft a QB if a good one is there when we have a pick don't just do it to do it.
I and several others will make that call, and let you know.
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