New Conference re-alignment thread

[Saulbadguy]

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

[WhawhaWhat]

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[|Zach|]

Where do the Cal Bears end up in all of this?

[Coach]

Originally Posted by |Zach|

Where do the Cal Bears end up in all of this?

Three options:

1. Join Mountain West.

2. Go Independent (very unlikely as it's not fiscally possible for them)

3. Shutter football.

Their only possible hope is that ESPN or FOX tells Big 12 to pick them up with a nice pay raise to the Big 12 conference. But I would be surprised.

[KingPriest2]

Originally Posted by Coach

Three options:

1. Join Mountain West.

2. Go Independent (very unlikely as it's not fiscally possible for them)

3. Shutter football.

Their only possible hope is that ESPN or FOX tells Big 12 to pick them up with a nice pay raise to the Big 12 conference. But I would be surprised.

That’s what I’m hearing as well

ESPN wants that west coast presence

So if they do that would you add wash at and Oregon state or cal and std ford

Thst would out then at 18


And now it looks like Gonzaga and maybe UConn might be joining fit basketball only. Making it 20. If they add the other 2

So that raises other questions. If you’re going to add a team. Maybe UNLV? SDSU? Vegas is a growing market. And SDSU has a new stadium and west coast Or you look out east?

Big 12 is in a great place. Big tv markets despite what Colin Coherd said today. (Small irrelevant markets). Spanning 3/4 time zones. Same as the Big 10. Despite Colin gloating about the B10 having that

Big 12 will be the elite basketball conference and I believe that will go a long way.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by KingPriest2

That’s what I’m hearing as well

ESPN wants that west coast presence

So if they do that would you add wash at and Oregon state or cal and std ford

Thst would out then at 18


And now it looks like Gonzaga and maybe UConn might be joining fit basketball only. Making it 20. If they add the other 2

So that raises other questions. If you’re going to add a team. Maybe UNLV? SDSU? Vegas is a growing market. And SDSU has a new stadium and west coast Or you look out east?

Big 12 is in a great place. Big tv markets despite what Colin Coherd said today. (Small irrelevant markets). Spanning 3/4 time zones. Same as the Big 10. Despite Colin gloating about the B10 having that

Big 12 will be the elite basketball conference and I believe that will go a long way.

The problem I just have with those 4 remaining schools is neither of them offer much, if any, value at all in athletics or location.

I would just get UCONN and Gonzaga as basketball members only, and just call it a day, and wait to re-up again in a few years with the idea of picking off some ACC schools.

[ChiefsCountry]

Listen to "Doug Gottlieb: The Pac-12 Screwed This Up Years Ago" on Spreaker.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

True but ASU football vs anyone, anytime of the day usually is not a compelling game to watch.

Other than when they had Jake Plummer, I can’t recall when ASU football was nationally relevant.

They went undefeated under Kush in the 1970s.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

True but ASU football vs anyone, anytime of the day usually is not a compelling game to watch.

Other than when they had Jake Plummer, I can’t recall when ASU football was nationally relevant.

They went undefeated under Kush in the 1970s.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

True but ASU football vs anyone, anytime of the day usually is not a compelling game to watch.

Other than when they had Jake Plummer, I can’t recall when ASU football was nationally relevant.

They went undefeated under Kush in the 1970s.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Pablo

Whatever Yormark makes in a year, triple it. He just Veached this university draft.

They did do well. The big winner is the Big 10 as they took the four biggest schools in the Pac with the Big 12 getting the next four. Definitely a long way from the days of when the Pac had the chance to kill the Big 12 and didn’t do it.

[Kiimo]

Arizona fans already talking shit in basketball.


I'm going to enjoy beating their ass every season now.




Also Arizona has been a first round exit six times in the last two decades, maybe playing some defense will better prepare you for the tournament, you goddam pussies

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Originally Posted by Kiimo

Arizona fans already talking shit in basketball.


I'm going to enjoy beating their ass every season now.




Also Arizona has been a first round exit six times in the last two decades, maybe playing some defense will better prepare you for the tournament, you goddam pussies

Who is your team? Kansas?

Arizona basketball fans are quite talkative.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut

Who is your team? Kansas?

Arizona basketball fans are quite talkative.

[Pablo]

big bill I know you're back in this bitch..

Would you say Yormark has elite urgency??

[Titty Meat]

With Arizona in the conference KU gets bumped to #2 in bball