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CrossCheck · 01-14-2017, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

So Roby had one bad drive against KC and all of the sudden he's a miss? Roby would START for 30 other teams.

With so many holes you would think Super GM Elway would trade him to upgrade one of the other weak spots. Maybe he's nothing special?

Raiders pick on Bradley Roby in Aqib Talib’s absence

Raiders quarterback Derek Carr targeted and beat the third-year cornerback repeatedly in a 30-20 victory that put the Raiders in sole possession of first place in the AFC West.

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CrossCheck · 01-14-2017, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

You just ignored a bunch of great picks to prove one point: you cherry pick, congrats.

"bunch of great picks"

Great Job Elway!! In John we Trust/AFC West

**rockymtnchief** · 01-14-2017, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Nice selective stat picking. Typical for a KC fan. When you get a Lamar Hunt trophy it might mean something. If you get a Lombardi, you'll have bragging rights.

Selective stat picking? For two days it's been "Since Elways came along/Since Elway became gm/ Since 1990". How about acknowledging that KC had a Super Bowl win 27 years before Denver and had three championships before that. Football wasn't invented the day Elway pulled his tantrum card and cried that he wouldn't play for Indy, if they drafted him.

Tombstone RJ · 01-14-2017, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rockymtnchief

Selective stat picking? For two days it's been "Since Elways came along/Since Elway became gm/ Since 1990". How about acknowledging that KC had a Super Bowl win 27 years before Denver and had three championships before that. Football wasn't invented the day Elway pulled his tantrum card and cried that he wouldn't play for Indy, if they drafted him.

Because it's true.

Steve Sewell · 01-14-2017, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rockymtnchief

Selective stat picking? For two days it's been "Since Elways came along/Since Elway became gm/ Since 1990". How about acknowledging that KC had a Super Bowl win 27 years before Denver and had three championships before that. Football wasn't invented the day Elway pulled his tantrum card and cried that he wouldn't play for Indy, if they drafted him.

Most of you toolboxes have been dogging Elway when he's owned your horribly underachieving franchise in every measureable way for his entire career (player and exec)...

CrossCheck · 01-14-2017, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Because it's true.

It's also true that KC is a superior team right now after six years of Elway's drafts. You don't dispute this do you?

Quesadilla Joe · 01-14-2017, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

You are exaggerating a bit there, as was SNR. Roby is a good NCB. But he is NOT good on the outside, so he wouldn't start for 30 other teams. My beef with you counting him for Elway is that you didn't count Nelson for us. Nelson, like Roby, is good in the slot, but struggles on the outside.

Wrong. Roby IS an outside corner. When Roby comes into the game, Harris goes into the slot and Roby plays the outside corner opposite Talib.

Quesadilla Joe · 01-14-2017, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CrossCheck

With so many holes you would think Super GM Elway would trade him to upgrade one of the other weak spots. Maybe he's nothing special?

Raiders pick on Bradley Roby in Aqib Talib’s absence

Raiders quarterback Derek Carr targeted and beat the third-year cornerback repeatedly in a 30-20 victory that put the Raiders in sole possession of first place in the AFC West.

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Broncos CB Bradley Roby has allowed a passer rating of 0.0 over the past four weeks.

While Aqib Talib and Chris Harris make up the best cornerback duo in the NFL, Roby can included for the best trio. Over the past four weeks he’s allowed just one of seven passes thrown his way to be caught for 12 yards, has one interception and two pass breakups.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...r-nfl-week-17/

Steve Sewell · 01-14-2017, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CrossCheck

It's also true that KC is a superior team right now after six years of Elway's drafts. You don't dispute this do you?

Elway has been widely considered to be one of the best execs in the league during that time period. He's done a masterful job with the Broncos. Maybe when Dorsey wins a super bowl he'll be on Elways level?

**jjchieffan** · 01-14-2017, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Sewell

Elway has been widely considered to be one of the best execs in the league during that time period. He's done a masterful job with the Broncos. Maybe when Dorsey wins a super bowl he'll be on Elways level?

ElFraud has built his reputation on the back of Fivehead and a fixed SuperFarce. Until he does something without Fivehead, the jury is still out.

**RealSNR** · 01-14-2017, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Nice selective stat picking. Typical for a KC fan. When you get a Lamar Hunt trophy it might mean something. If you get a Lombardi, you'll have bragging rights.

The original conversation wasn't about the value of each franchise, idiot. We're not debating historically better franchises. We're debating whether the arrow is pointing up or down for Denver.

And don't give me this, "LOL ONLY THING THAT MATTERZ IS WINZ!!!" bullshit. The topic is your new coaching staff and losing Wade Phillips. We're arguing whether Elway has the GM skills without Peyton Manning to get Denver playing better next year.

At the moment, that's all that matters in this particular conversation, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ****ING TOPIC.

**RealSNR** · 01-14-2017, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

You just ignored a bunch of great picks to prove one point: you cherry pick, congrats.

Which great picks am I missing? You don't get to count Bradley ****ing Roby as a great draft pick, dickbrain.

**rockymtnchief** · 01-14-2017, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Sewell

Most of you toolboxes have been dogging Elway when he's owned your horribly underachieving franchise in every measureable way for his entire career (player and exec)...

Player, yes. GM, not so much. He took over when KC was stuck with Pisshole for a GM. Now that Dorsey has had a couple years, he's going to leave Elway in the rear view mirror.

Btw... **** Elway, Bosworth, Eli and and anyone who whines about who might draft them.

**jjchieffan** · 01-14-2017, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Wrong. Roby IS an outside corner. When Roby comes into the game, Harris goes into the slot and Roby plays the outside corner opposite Talib.

That doesn't make sense to me. If Harris is one of the best CB in the league, why would he move inside?

stevieray · 01-14-2017, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Sewell

Elway has been widely considered to be one of the best execs in the league during that time period.

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