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Old 06-19-2023, 10:45 AM  
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Tourist(s) missing in submarine while trying to reach the Titannic
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/u-s-coa...-sub-1.6446841


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A search and rescue operation is currently underway to locate a submarine that went missing during an expedition to the Titanic.
The U.S. Coast Guard was looking for the submarine Monday morning after it disappeared during the expedition from St. John's, N.L. The infamous 1912 wreck is located more than 600 kilometres southeast of the province in the North Atlantic Ocean.
The trip to the Titanic was being run by OceanGate Expeditions, a U.S.-based company. It uses a five-person submersible named Titan to reach the wreckage 3,800 metres below the surface. OceanGate's website advertises a seven-night voyage to the Titanic for US$250,000 per person, or approximately CA$330,000.
"We are exploring and mobilizing all options to bring the crew back safely," an OceanGate spokesperson said in an email to CTV News. "Our entire focus is on the crewmembers in the submersible and their families."


Those tours are a series of five eight-day missions to the Titanic with the money raised by tourists going towards Titanic research. Posts on social media show the ship launched from the St. John's area last week.

Did they really have 5 people in this?? Or do they have a larger version??



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Old 06-28-2023, 10:13 AM   #1051
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Yeah there really is no excuse for it

If you can't or won't find a way to properly test it and have it certified, then you shouldn't be allowed to solicit gullible adventure tourists... and you certainly don't create this thing from "past its due date" carbon fiber
They basically did everything they needed to do to certify the craft other than pay the fees to a 3rd party to be able to call it "certified." Certification is part design (what the engineers & designers think the materials & design can handle), and part real life depth testing. There is test-depth (depth the sub will operate in its regular use), max operating depth, and crush depth.

From an engineering perspective the sub was built with a margin of safety significantly greater than the U.s. military uses. Their typical margin of safety (difference between test depth and crush depth) is 1.5x. This one was 2.5x, so the Crush depth should have been well over 25 thousand feet, more than twice the normal test operating depth of 13,000

The first thing they did when they got the sub was test it by sending it unmanned to 13,000 feet. Then they tested manned dives to varying depths. They also tested scaled down models to much greater depths so they knew where the faults would potentially occur. AFAIK that's all normal certification procedure. Problems were found in depth testing with the first prototype built back in '18 (the one with all the complaints the media keeps referencing). But that project was scrapped and the entire thing was rebuilt.

IMO the liability here is as much or more on the engineering firms who built the project - Spencer composites, Electroimpact, and Janicki Industries. They failed twice in building a project that would do half of what they thought it would do. You can blame the CEO for pushing the carbon fiber design but obviously multiple engineering firms obviously told him they could build the project, signed off on it, built it, and rated it.
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Old 06-28-2023, 06:57 PM   #1052
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Photos showing some of the recovered wreckage.
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Old 06-28-2023, 07:00 PM   #1053
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Old 06-28-2023, 08:35 PM   #1054
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Old 06-28-2023, 09:20 PM   #1055
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Wow. This article says that they've recovered human remains in the wreckage. I'm surprised.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pictured-...151027948.html
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Old 06-28-2023, 10:47 PM   #1056
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Old 06-28-2023, 11:27 PM   #1057
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Wow. This article says that they've recovered human remains in the wreckage. I'm surprised.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pictured-...151027948.html
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Wow. This article says that they've recovered human remains in the wreckage. I'm surprised.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pictured-...151027948.html
Me too. It must have been a fairly big piece for them to find it.
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Me too. It must have been a fairly big piece for them to find it.
yeah, kind of crazy to think any there were any remains.
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The entire window fitting was completely blown out. Was that also held in place by glue?
It was rated to 4000ft, not 12500ft. I'm shocked it didn't hold up
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