Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 708

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

BigRock · 08-04-2023, 03:50 PM

ASU coming to the Big XII means we were THIS close to having Herm back in our lives. Oh what could have been.

ChiefsCountry · 08-04-2023, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

ASU coming to the Big XII means we were THIS close to having Herm back in our lives. Oh what could have been.

Herm was fired last year.

KingPriest2 · 08-04-2023, 03:53 PM

Oregon president John Karl Scholz re: Big Ten's terms: "We are being granted partial shares ... during the first parts of this deal." Says they believe shares are "more generous" than what was available via Pac-12. Oregon will be full share members in next B1G media deals.

https://twitter.com/jamescrepea/stat...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

FloridaMan88 · 08-04-2023, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KingPriest2

They want more money then what the B12 can offer. If they’re not happy with the ACC they won’t be happy in the B12

There are sone rumblings they might go independent

Notre Dame’s current TV deal with NBC pays them $26 million/year… less than the Big 12’s annual media rights payout per school.

Florida State as an independent would struggle to get anything close to that # since they have much less brand equity than Notre Dame football.

Coach · 08-04-2023, 03:55 PM

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So the PAC-12 is basically dead then yeah? I know everyone thought the big 12 was gonna die 12 years ago but…

KingPriest2 · 08-04-2023, 03:59 PM

University of Oregon board of trustees votes unanimously to approve the move to the Big Ten.

https://twitter.com/jamescrepea/stat...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

KingPriest2 · 08-04-2023, 04:01 PM

Sources: Oregon and Washington have been officially voted into the Big Ten by the league’s presidents. Announcement coming soon

https://twitter.com/petethamel/statu...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Coach · 08-04-2023, 04:05 PM

BREAKING: Arizona, Arizona State & 2-time defending Pac-12 champion Utah joining Big 12 in 2024 pending Big 12 formal approval in next 24 hours, sources told @ActionNetworkHQ. Big 12 will be 3rd league w/at least 16 schools, while Pac-12 down to 4 schoolshttps://t.co/ElL3jh2HLg
— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) August 4, 2023

KingPriest2 · 08-04-2023, 04:08 PM

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BREAKING: Arizona, Arizona State & 2-time defending Pac-12 champion Utah joining Big 12 in 2024 pending Big 12 formal approval in next 24 hours, sources told @ActionNetworkHQ. Big 12 will be 3rd league w/at least 16 schools, while Pac-12 down to 4 schoolshttps://t.co/ElL3jh2HLg
— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) August 4, 2023

Arizona has already applied and was approved on last night

Coach · 08-04-2023, 04:09 PM

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Arizona has already applied and was approved on last night

Yes. This one is more aligned towards ASU and Utah. The Big 12 wants to bring all 3 together as one, so that way none of the 3 can be the "suspect" that ended the Pac.

BigRock · 08-04-2023, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Herm was fired last year.

Yes, that's why I said it was so close to happening, rather than it is happening.

KingPriest2 · 08-04-2023, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

Yes. This one is more aligned towards ASU and Utah. The Big 12 wants to bring all 3 together as one, so that way none of the 3 can be the "suspect" that ended the Pac.

Yeah Jason Scheer said it on 365 sports that they want it announced together.

But Oregon and Wash leaving was the death blow. Not these 3

Coach · 08-04-2023, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KingPriest2

Yeah Jason Scheer said it on 365 sports that they want it announced together.

But Oregon and Wash leaving was the death blow. Not these 3

Agreed. It's still what the Big 12 wants anyways because of so many bullshit false narratives out there these days.

Media is pissed at Big 12 for destroying Pac, even though very compelling evidence shows otherwise (B1G started by poaching USC and UCLA).

Media was always rooting for Big 12 to die, twice, but now is pissed at us for fighting back?

They ****ed the wrong mother****er.

Media can suck my dick.

Long Live Big 12.

KingPriest2 · 08-04-2023, 04:21 PM

As we’ve tweeted, plan is to officially roll this out tomorrow. ASU President Michael Crow was a bit of a hurdle but it was never going to derail this.

Full coverage coming soon.

https://twitter.com/jasonscheer/stat...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

KingPriest2 · 08-04-2023, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

Agreed. It's still what the Big 12 wants anyways because of so many bullshit false narratives out there these days.

Media is pissed at Big 12 for destroying Pac, even though very compelling evidence shows otherwise (B1G started by poaching USC and UCLA).

Media was always rooting for Big 12 to die, twice, but now is pissed at us for fighting back?

They ****ed the wrong mother****er.

Media can suck my dick.

Long Live Big 12.

Totally agree

And the Alkiwnce? Lol. What a joke

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $796966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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KingPriest2 Super Grover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $8935135	Oregon president John Karl Scholz re: Big Ten's terms: "We are being granted partial shares ... during the first parts of this deal." Says they believe shares are "more generous" than what was available via Pac-12. Oregon will be full share members in next B1G media deals. https://twitter.com/jamescrepea/stat...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w __________________ Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John If you're not sure who you're voting for at this point in time, you can abandon all connection to the word "smart." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John ...He asked who I am voting for. I told him, "well, that depends... ."
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KingPriest2 Super Grover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $8935135	University of Oregon board of trustees votes unanimously to approve the move to the Big Ten. https://twitter.com/jamescrepea/stat...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w __________________ Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John If you're not sure who you're voting for at this point in time, you can abandon all connection to the word "smart." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John ...He asked who I am voting for. I told him, "well, that depends... ."
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KingPriest2 Super Grover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $8935135	Sources: Oregon and Washington have been officially voted into the Big Ten by the league’s presidents. Announcement coming soon https://twitter.com/petethamel/statu...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w __________________ Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John If you're not sure who you're voting for at this point in time, you can abandon all connection to the word "smart." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John ...He asked who I am voting for. I told him, "well, that depends... ."
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KingPriest2 Super Grover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $8935135	As we’ve tweeted, plan is to officially roll this out tomorrow. ASU President Michael Crow was a bit of a hurdle but it was never going to derail this. Full coverage coming soon. https://twitter.com/jasonscheer/stat...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w __________________ Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John If you're not sure who you're voting for at this point in time, you can abandon all connection to the word "smart." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John ...He asked who I am voting for. I told him, "well, that depends... ."
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