New Conference re-alignment thread

[Saulbadguy]

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

I am not sure what metrics the Big 12 would look at as a comparison, but to me UConn adds way more value than Arizona State.

Arizona State barely adds the Phoenix market since Arizona is the flagship school in the state. Also Phoenix has a transient population and is not a college sports city.

I think if that comes down to that, I think they'll just add Arizona and re-evaluate at a later date.

Crow is not worth the trouble of bringing on. That's why I made this post below.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...ostcount=10489

[KingPriest2]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

I am not sure what metrics the Big 12 would look at as a comparison, but to me UConn adds way more value than Arizona State.

Arizona State barely adds the Phoenix market since Arizona is the flagship school in the state. Also Phoenix has a transient population and is not a college sports city.

UConn would be a bigger market and a basketball school

ASU. Yeah I know it’s a bigger football school. Not basketball. But smaller market. What’s the value?

I did hear a rumor. Haven’t seen a “legit” rumkt where the B12 might go 18 schools snd addd Oregon Stare and Wash Stare

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Originally Posted by KingPriest2

Utah is expected to be accepted into the Big 12 as soon as tonight. Announcement could come within next 48 hours.

https://twitter.com/jasonscheer/stat...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Ha!

They had to follow BYU.

Too bad, BYU didn't block them.

[KingPriest2]

Sources: Both Utah and Arizona State have applied for formal membership to the Big 12 Conference, and there’s a call tonight with the Big 12's presidents and chancellors to discuss their membership. Arizona applied and was approved yesterday.

https://twitter.com/petethamel/statu...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

[sedated]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

I am not sure what metrics the Big 12 would look at as a comparison, but to me UConn adds way more value than Arizona State.

Arizona State barely adds the Phoenix market since Arizona is the flagship school in the state. Also Phoenix has a transient population and is not a college sports city.

I was hoping for Florida State over either ASU or Utah

Its a traditional football power on the east coast. And not much reason to double down on both Arizona and Utah when while having 2 schools in Florida actually make sense (while not having the major players, the B12 would have a heavy presence in both Texas and Florida)

[sedated]

Originally Posted by KingPriest2

UConn would be a bigger market and a basketball school

ASU. Yeah I know it’s a bigger football school. Not basketball. But smaller market. What’s the value?

I did hear a rumor. Haven’t seen a “legit” rumkt where the B12 might go 18 schools and add Oregon State and Wash State

Please dear god no

[sedated]

Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut

Ha!

They had to follow BYU.

Too bad, BYU didn't block them.

I'm sure BYU tried.

From everything I've seen Utah wants absolutely nothing to do with BYU and why they don't want to be in the B12.

[FloridaMan88]

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[KingPriest2]

Originally Posted by sedated

I was hoping for Florida State over either ASU or Utah

Its a traditional football power on the east coast. And not much reason to double down on both Arizona and Utah when while having 2 schools in Florida actually make sense (while not having the major players, the B12 would have a heavy presence in both Texas and Florida)

Florida Stare would never go to the B12

[Coach]

Originally Posted by KingPriest2

UConn would be a bigger market and a basketball school

ASU. Yeah I know it’s a bigger football school. Not basketball. But smaller market. What’s the value?

I did hear a rumor. Haven’t seen a “legit” rumkt where the B12 might go 18 schools snd addd Oregon Stare and Wash Stare

Big 12 won't add Oregon State and Washington State. They bring 0 value.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by KingPriest2

Florida Stare would never go to the B12

If they want out of the ACC, then why not?

[KingPriest2]

Oregon president John Karl Scholz: "A few minutes ago, we were provided an invitation to join the Big Ten Conference. .. I urge us to accept that opportunity."

https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

[KingPriest2]

Originally Posted by sedated

If they want out of the ACC, then why not?

They want more money then what the B12 can offer. If they’re not happy with the ACC they won’t be happy in the B12

There are sone rumblings they might go independent

[KingPriest2]

A great podcast to listen to about everything

365 sports. They have most of the reporters on

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[ChiefBlueCFC]

So the PAC-12 is basically dead then yeah? I know everyone thought the big 12 was gonna die 12 years ago but…