2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

[alnorth]

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
(from alnorth)

With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

What say you, Royals fans? I posted this in the Cardinals thread and it honestly seems like a decent idea:



With Myers gone, you'll need someone that you can fall back on in RF if Frenchy is a disaster. For everything Skip Schumaker is not, he is a consistent LH hitter that will give you nice ABs against RH hitters and play his ass off night in, night out. He's a good RFer and a below average 2b that will do in a pinch (though his arm and ability to range into the OF and medium range fly balls is often very useful).

He's inexpensive and fits your roster well. With the Royals now needing to deal with RF, he seems a great trade target for you.

I would rather watch Jeff Francouer swing mightily and miss 89-MPH fastballs all year long than watch Skip Schumaker adjust his damn batting gloves in between every single pitch of the entire season.

[Mr. Laz]

Grienke 147 million ... 2nd largest ever for a pitcher next to Sabathia

[Demonpenz]

I guess Grienke turned all his guns in as well.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

Here's something to think about:

Will Myers split the season between AA and AA. He hit .314 with 37 home runs and 109 RBI. He doesn't run, throw, or play defense particularly well. He is not Mike Trout, no matter how much we wanted him to be.

In 2008 the Royals had another minor-league player who split his season between AA and AAA. He hit .314 with 37 home runs and 100 RBI. Those numbers are pretty much identical to the numbers Will Myers put up in 2012.

Any Royals fan worth his salt knows I'm talking about Kila Ka'aihue. I'm not saying Will Myers is going to wash out like Kila Ka'aihue did, but the fact is that Myers is an UNPROVEN PROSPECT. Hitting .314 with 37 homers and over 100 RBI in the minor leagues is nice, but it doesn't make you a major league All-Star. Myers might turn out to be a guy who hits 35 home runs a year in the majors. He might turn out to be a guy who hits 20 home runs. And it's not impossible that he could turn out to be no better than Kila Ka'aihue.

Kila Ka'aihue was 24 years old when he had his breakout season in the minors. Myers was 22. In three previous seasons in the minors, Will Meyers hit a TOTAL of 27 home runs, so this is not exactly Babe Ruth we're talking about.

Kila was named BB America Player of the Year? Dammit, I never knew.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Kila was named BB America Player of the Year? Dammit, I never knew.

Yes. He said it was an exact analogy, but it wasn't exact. Nothing gets by you.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

What say you, Royals fans? I posted this in the Cardinals thread and it honestly seems like a decent idea:

With Myers gone, you'll need someone that you can fall back on in RF if Frenchy is a disaster. For everything Skip Schumaker is not, he is a consistent LH hitter that will give you nice ABs against RH hitters and play his ass off night in, night out. He's a good RFer and a below average 2b that will do in a pinch (though his arm and ability to range into the OF and medium range fly balls is often very useful).

He's inexpensive and fits your roster well. With the Royals now needing to deal with RF, he seems a great trade target for you.

I would be open to a Skip Schumacher deal. Reliever/depth starter sound like a good fit?

I could see flipping someone like Louis Coleman (nasty vs. RH), or maybe a starting depth guy (Will Smith, Everett Teaford, Nate Adcock) for Skip.

EDIT: Just saw thepart of your post that references getting a shortstop back.

Mondesi and Calixte are not options. Not for Skip Shumacher. Artaega would be a potential option, as he is severely blocked.

I'm not sure they'd move Mondesi for anything, if what I've heard about his estimation inside the organization is true. He's a definite top 100 kid, possible top 50 (what he did at age 16 is VERY comparable to Jurickson Profar at the same age). Calixte is another helium prospect (and I think he's about to EXPLODE in the friendly hitting confines at AA after posting a .752 OPS in Wilmington).

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Could we unload Chen on them? Lol

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Yes. He said it was an exact analogy, but it wasn't exact. Nothing gets by you.

Are you still ass-hurt about me mocking Mizzou sports? I feel horrible for fans like you who like the Chiefs/Royals/MU. Suicide is a good option for your types.

[lewdog]

Thank God you guys are feeling better, I was worried!

But seriously, I was pissed going to bed last night but all day at work I thought about it. We have for years, built stars only to ship them off to other teams for prospects. Now we are on the reverse end, shipping prospects for good quality players. It is what the good teams do to make a run in the short-term. I think most of us were just scared because it hasn't really even happened!

Having a great farm system is great, but prospects are like gambling. Sometimes you just have to sell high, especially when you can sell high for a guy who has never seen a big league at bat.

[lewdog]

Thank God you guys are feeling better, I was worried!

But seriously, I was pissed going to bed last night but all day at work I thought about it. We have for years, built stars only to ship them off to other teams for prospects. Now we are on the reverse end, shipping prospects for good quality players. It is what the good teams do to make a run in the short-term. I think most of us were just scared because it hasn't really even happened!

Having a great farm system is great, but prospects are like gambling. Sometimes you just have to sell high, especially when you can sell high for a guy who has never seen a big league at bat.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Are you still ass-hurt about me mocking Mizzou sports? I feel horrible for fans like you who like the Chiefs/Royals/MU. Suicide is a good option for your types.

No. You're just a ****ing moron. Judging by your rep, I represent the majority opinion of the board, BTW.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

What say you, Royals fans? I posted this in the Cardinals thread and it honestly seems like a decent idea:



With Myers gone, you'll need someone that you can fall back on in RF if Frenchy is a disaster. For everything Skip Schumaker is not, he is a consistent LH hitter that will give you nice ABs against RH hitters and play his ass off night in, night out. He's a good RFer and a below average 2b that will do in a pinch (though his arm and ability to range into the OF and medium range fly balls is often very useful).

He's inexpensive and fits your roster well. With the Royals now needing to deal with RF, he seems a great trade target for you.

Eh, I don't know, where does Schumaker land on the grit metric?

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

No. You're just a ****ing moron. Judging by your rep, I represent the majority opinion of the board, BTW.

Well I won't get popular making fun of Mizzou on a Chiefs board, I know how sensitive your people are to any mentoin of your 100 years of failure.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Eh, I don't know, where does Schumaker land on the grit metric?

Holy shit, you have no idea how high he scores on the grit-o-meter.

Skip Schumaker is the KING of the headfirst slide into 1b. What he losses in soft hands at 2b, he makes up for by willing to let the ball bounce off his face before unleashing a rocket to 1b (it really is impressive how willing he is to keep his chest square to the ball and knock it down to complete the force; fundamentally perfect, you just don't often see it at this level).

If grit is what you're after, there isn't a better guy available.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

No. You're just a ****ing moron. Judging by your rep, I represent the majority opinion of the board, BTW.

It's Wickedson.