Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 704

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

FloridaMan88 · 08-04-2023, 11:33 AM

Arizona State & Utah "showing interest" in the Big 12, sources told @ActionNetwork. Arizona has already applied for Big 12 membership, but Big 12 now "exploring its options" following news of Oregon & Washington leaving for Big Ten
— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) August 4, 2023

KingPriest2 · 08-04-2023, 11:37 AM

Expect a lot of movement between the MWC, AAC and remaining PAC 4… should be interesting who puts together the best plan. There is certainly an opportunity to strengthen if you are MWC or AAC but you are also at risk of being picked apart by remaining PAC.

https://twitter.com/kbowlsby/status/...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

MarkDavis'Haircut · 08-04-2023, 11:52 AM

Washington State and Oregon State better start praying.

ChiefsCountry · 08-04-2023, 11:59 AM

Stanford vetoing Texas in the early 90s and then vetoed the adding the 6 Big 12 schools in the early 10s has kicked them in the ass and I'm enjoying it.

BWillie · 08-04-2023, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KingPriest2

NEWS: The Big Ten is going to invite Oregon and Washington to join the league, source tells @TheAthletic.

https://twitter.com/nicoleauerbach/s...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Wouldn't they be the only cutrate schools? Thats kinda funny. Northwestern gets full share but not Oregon and Washington hahahah

They are gonna get so much shit from ppl for being the broke dicks of the conference

BWillie · 08-04-2023, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

All of this supposed hesitancy by Arizona State and Utah to join the Big 12… Yormark should tell them to stay in the collapsing Pac 6 and just add Arizona.

That would be great. Wish Big 12 could nab some ACC teams instead. Stop at Arizona. Tell Utah especially to go kick rocks.

KingPriest2 · 08-04-2023, 12:07 PM

https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/st...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

While on the call, UO and UW officials informed Pac-12 presidents they were accepting an imminent invite from Big Ten, which had cooled on the additions only to re-engage today.

“Oregon told us they were out unless their (Apple) figures didn’t increase,” says a P12 school source

Mr_Tomahawk · 08-04-2023, 12:07 PM

Put me in the group that geographically, none of this makes no effing sense...I hate it.

KingPriest2 · 08-04-2023, 12:08 PM

As reported last night, Big Ten’s offer to Oregon and Washington - if plans didn’t change - was expected to be a partial share (&#128071

. Other details are unclear, but this reduced rate likely convinced B1G powers like Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan and USC to agree to the move.

https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/st...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Mecca · 08-04-2023, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Put me in the group that geographically, none of this makes no effing sense...I hate it.

They're going to create geographic divisions within the conference...it makes sense under the concept of making money and basically no longer needing the NCAA for anything.

KingPriest2 · 08-04-2023, 12:10 PM

Pac-12 leaders held “positive” meetings the last 3 days to examine details of Apple deal.

Presidents of schools whose membership is in question - namely UW/UO - participated in calls & suggested they were willing to vote this morning on a GoR

https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/st...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

KingPriest2 · 08-04-2023, 12:12 PM

Wow!!!! You got to be kidding me. Crow said this??!?!! He’s horrible

ASU's Crow told Robbins to "go without us" and he just did!! #BearDown #Utes #Big12

https://twitter.com/gswaim/status/16...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Mecca · 08-04-2023, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KingPriest2

Pac-12 leaders held “positive” meetings the last 3 days to examine details of Apple deal.

Presidents of schools whose membership is in question - namely UW/UO - participated in calls & suggested they were willing to vote this morning on a GoR

https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/st...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

The Pac is dead and nothing can save it no one will care about a conference that no longer has traditional power schools made up of a few names and a bunch of scrubs.

KingPriest2 · 08-04-2023, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The Pac is dead and nothing can save it no one will care about a conference that no longer has traditional power schools made up of a few names and a bunch of scrubs.

I know that. Just was posting what was going on leading up to today

BWillie · 08-04-2023, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KingPriest2

Wow!!!! You got to be kidding me. Crow said this??!?!! He’s horrible

ASU's Crow told Robbins to "go without us" and he just did!! #BearDown #Utes #Big12

https://twitter.com/gswaim/status/16...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

What a clown

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $736966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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08-04-2023, 11:37 AM	#10547
KingPriest2 Super Grover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $8925135	Expect a lot of movement between the MWC, AAC and remaining PAC 4… should be interesting who puts together the best plan. There is certainly an opportunity to strengthen if you are MWC or AAC but you are also at risk of being picked apart by remaining PAC. https://twitter.com/kbowlsby/status/...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w __________________ Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John If you're not sure who you're voting for at this point in time, you can abandon all connection to the word "smart." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John ...He asked who I am voting for. I told him, "well, that depends... ."
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KingPriest2 Super Grover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $8925135	https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/st...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w While on the call, UO and UW officials informed Pac-12 presidents they were accepting an imminent invite from Big Ten, which had cooled on the additions only to re-engage today. “Oregon told us they were out unless their (Apple) figures didn’t increase,” says a P12 school source __________________ Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John If you're not sure who you're voting for at this point in time, you can abandon all connection to the word "smart." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John ...He asked who I am voting for. I told him, "well, that depends... ."
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08-04-2023, 12:08 PM	#10554
KingPriest2 Super Grover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $8925135	As reported last night, Big Ten’s offer to Oregon and Washington - if plans didn’t change - was expected to be a partial share (&#128071. Other details are unclear, but this reduced rate likely convinced B1G powers like Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan and USC to agree to the move. https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/st...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w __________________ Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John If you're not sure who you're voting for at this point in time, you can abandon all connection to the word "smart." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John ...He asked who I am voting for. I told him, "well, that depends... ."
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08-04-2023, 12:10 PM	#10556
KingPriest2 Super Grover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $8925135	Pac-12 leaders held “positive” meetings the last 3 days to examine details of Apple deal. Presidents of schools whose membership is in question - namely UW/UO - participated in calls & suggested they were willing to vote this morning on a GoR https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/st...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w __________________ Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John If you're not sure who you're voting for at this point in time, you can abandon all connection to the word "smart." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John ...He asked who I am voting for. I told him, "well, that depends... ."
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08-04-2023, 12:12 PM	#10557
KingPriest2 Super Grover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $8925135	Wow!!!! You got to be kidding me. Crow said this??!?!! He’s horrible ASU's Crow told Robbins to "go without us" and he just did!! #BearDown #Utes #Big12 https://twitter.com/gswaim/status/16...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w __________________ Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John If you're not sure who you're voting for at this point in time, you can abandon all connection to the word "smart." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John ...He asked who I am voting for. I told him, "well, that depends... ."
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