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**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

KingPriest2 · 08-04-2023, 10:50 AM

The Big Ten is in the final stages of adding Oregon and Washington as it expands to 18 teams, industry sources tell @RossDellenger and me. Ducks and Huskies have informed other Pac 12 schools they intend to leave.

https://twitter.com/danwetzel/status...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

MarkDavis'Haircut · 08-04-2023, 10:52 AM

Pac 12 killed themselves.

KingPriest2 · 08-04-2023, 10:53 AM

Oregon and Washington would begin play in the fall of 2024. The schools are expected to take a cut rate of the Big Ten media rights revenue.

https://twitter.com/danwetzel/status...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

The departure of Ducks and Huskies leaves the Pac 12 in uncertain times. Arizona has an offer to move to the Big 12. Arizona State and Utah could follow. League was already at just nine schools with the 2024 defections of USC, UCLA and Colorado.

https://twitter.com/danwetzel/status...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Big Ten is expected to meet shortly to finalize the invitation and terms of the expansion.

https://twitter.com/danwetzel/status...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Raiderhater · 08-04-2023, 10:54 AM

**** it, absorb what’s left of the PAC and tell Norte Dame, “Hey, we got Stanford, just sayin’…”

Fantasyland pipe dream I know. Still fun to think about.

KingPriest2 · 08-04-2023, 10:55 AM

Oregon and Washington’s imminent departure is expected to set off more moves within the Pac-12, sources tell @YahooSports, as Arizona and the Big 12 inched closer to a marriage last night

https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/st...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

KingPriest2 · 08-04-2023, 10:57 AM

Sources: Big Ten expected to move ahead with formal offer letters for Oregon and Washington. A Big Ten vote is expected to take place later today to formalize their admission, barring any last-minute snags.

https://twitter.com/petethamel/statu...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Sources: While there had been some initial pushback, the Big Ten vote is expected to be unanimous. First signature move of Tony Petitti's stint as Big Ten commissioner is on the cusp.

https://twitter.com/petethamel/statu...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

KingPriest2 · 08-04-2023, 10:58 AM

NEWS: The Big Ten is going to invite Oregon and Washington to join the league, source tells @TheAthletic.

https://twitter.com/nicoleauerbach/s...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

KingPriest2 · 08-04-2023, 11:07 AM

The belief is that the Arizona Board of Regents - which controls both Arizona and ASU - wishes for both to compete in the same conference.

While Arizona’s deal with the Big 12 reaches the goal line, Arizona State’s situation is less certain but should clear soon.

https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/st...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

KingPriest2 · 08-04-2023, 11:10 AM

Arizona/ASU/Utah avoided having to defect until the last moment possible.

Oregon needed last-second convincing to join the freaking Big Ten.

George K had 13 months to deliver a TV deal that, if even slightly better, keeps the conference together.

A failure of epic proportions.

https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

KingPriest2 · 08-04-2023, 11:14 AM

As reported last night, Big Ten’s offer to Oregon and Washington - if plans didn’t change - was expected to be a partial share (&#128071

. Other details are unclear, but this reduced rate likely convinced B1G powers like Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan and USC to agree to the move.

https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/st...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w

Mr. Plow · 08-04-2023, 11:25 AM

So now it's the Pac 7? Soon to be Pac 5, or maybe Pac 4?

FloridaMan88 · 08-04-2023, 11:25 AM

All of this supposed hesitancy by Arizona State and Utah to join the Big 12… Yormark should tell them to stay in the collapsing Pac 6 and just add Arizona.

Mr. Plow · 08-04-2023, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

All of this supposed hesitancy by Arizona State and Utah to join the Big 12… Yormark should tell them to stay in the collapsing Pac 6 and just add Arizona.

It's like they think there are other options for them.

Mr. Plow · 08-04-2023, 11:27 AM

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09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $736966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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08-04-2023, 10:50 AM	#10531
KingPriest2 Super Grover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $8925135	The Big Ten is in the final stages of adding Oregon and Washington as it expands to 18 teams, industry sources tell @RossDellenger and me. Ducks and Huskies have informed other Pac 12 schools they intend to leave. https://twitter.com/danwetzel/status...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w __________________ Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John If you're not sure who you're voting for at this point in time, you can abandon all connection to the word "smart." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John ...He asked who I am voting for. I told him, "well, that depends... ."
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08-04-2023, 10:52 AM	#10532
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08-04-2023, 10:53 AM	#10533
KingPriest2 Super Grover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $8925135	Oregon and Washington would begin play in the fall of 2024. The schools are expected to take a cut rate of the Big Ten media rights revenue. https://twitter.com/danwetzel/status...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w The departure of Ducks and Huskies leaves the Pac 12 in uncertain times. Arizona has an offer to move to the Big 12. Arizona State and Utah could follow. League was already at just nine schools with the 2024 defections of USC, UCLA and Colorado. https://twitter.com/danwetzel/status...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w Big Ten is expected to meet shortly to finalize the invitation and terms of the expansion. https://twitter.com/danwetzel/status...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w __________________ Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John If you're not sure who you're voting for at this point in time, you can abandon all connection to the word "smart." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John ...He asked who I am voting for. I told him, "well, that depends... ."
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08-04-2023, 10:54 AM	#10534
Raiderhater **** the Raiders Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: A Webb of chaos Casino cash: $232021	**** it, absorb what’s left of the PAC and tell Norte Dame, “Hey, we got Stanford, just sayin’…” Fantasyland pipe dream I know. Still fun to think about. __________________ "Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, and disregard of all the rules." -- George Orwell, Shooting an Elephant
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08-04-2023, 10:55 AM	#10535
KingPriest2 Super Grover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $8925135	Oregon and Washington’s imminent departure is expected to set off more moves within the Pac-12, sources tell @YahooSports, as Arizona and the Big 12 inched closer to a marriage last night https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/st...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w __________________ Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John If you're not sure who you're voting for at this point in time, you can abandon all connection to the word "smart." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John ...He asked who I am voting for. I told him, "well, that depends... ."
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08-04-2023, 10:57 AM	#10536
KingPriest2 Super Grover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $8925135	Sources: Big Ten expected to move ahead with formal offer letters for Oregon and Washington. A Big Ten vote is expected to take place later today to formalize their admission, barring any last-minute snags. https://twitter.com/petethamel/statu...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w Sources: While there had been some initial pushback, the Big Ten vote is expected to be unanimous. First signature move of Tony Petitti's stint as Big Ten commissioner is on the cusp. https://twitter.com/petethamel/statu...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w __________________ Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John If you're not sure who you're voting for at this point in time, you can abandon all connection to the word "smart." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John ...He asked who I am voting for. I told him, "well, that depends... ."
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08-04-2023, 10:58 AM	#10537
KingPriest2 Super Grover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $8925135	NEWS: The Big Ten is going to invite Oregon and Washington to join the league, source tells @TheAthletic. https://twitter.com/nicoleauerbach/s...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w __________________ Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John If you're not sure who you're voting for at this point in time, you can abandon all connection to the word "smart." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John ...He asked who I am voting for. I told him, "well, that depends... ."
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08-04-2023, 11:07 AM	#10538
KingPriest2 Super Grover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $8925135	The belief is that the Arizona Board of Regents - which controls both Arizona and ASU - wishes for both to compete in the same conference. While Arizona’s deal with the Big 12 reaches the goal line, Arizona State’s situation is less certain but should clear soon. https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/st...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w __________________ Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John If you're not sure who you're voting for at this point in time, you can abandon all connection to the word "smart." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John ...He asked who I am voting for. I told him, "well, that depends... ."
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08-04-2023, 11:10 AM	#10539
KingPriest2 Super Grover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $8925135	Arizona/ASU/Utah avoided having to defect until the last moment possible. Oregon needed last-second convincing to join the freaking Big Ten. George K had 13 months to deliver a TV deal that, if even slightly better, keeps the conference together. A failure of epic proportions. https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w __________________ Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John If you're not sure who you're voting for at this point in time, you can abandon all connection to the word "smart." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John ...He asked who I am voting for. I told him, "well, that depends... ."
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08-04-2023, 11:14 AM	#10540
KingPriest2 Super Grover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $8925135	As reported last night, Big Ten’s offer to Oregon and Washington - if plans didn’t change - was expected to be a partial share (&#128071. Other details are unclear, but this reduced rate likely convinced B1G powers like Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan and USC to agree to the move. https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/st...n6FHKMqlrjZx2w __________________ Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John If you're not sure who you're voting for at this point in time, you can abandon all connection to the word "smart." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by Taco John ...He asked who I am voting for. I told him, "well, that depends... ."
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08-04-2023, 11:25 AM	#10541
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08-04-2023, 11:25 AM	#10542
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