Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect

[RunKC]

I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

We are not drafting a tackle in this draft. We already have 2 LT's that we used high draft picks on to develop.

We cant just keep using high round picks on LT's and hope one develops. Those picks in the first 3 rounds are needed desperately in other positions other than LT.

a 3rd and a low 2nd are not high draft picks, and Morris never was a LT even if he did play there a couple of times out of necessity. It’s already been discussed on here how little we’ve invested the past decade or so on offensive tackles in the draft.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

A prospect is just THAT. A prospect.

If we're talking about trading draft capital and players for a sure thing at LT, it's needs to be an established veteran!

Target Laremy Tunsil, Tristan Wirfs, Chargers have Slater (and a ready made replacement in Alt) but I doubt they would wanna deal with us.

If you're gonna 'pay the price' that hurts, do it for someone who has already been successful at a high level in the NFL.

I just don't know there is a match out there to get it done. There's a reason franchise LT's hardly ever become available.

At this point, I'd hope a full off-season of conditioning and getting ready in our offense might allow Humphries to regain Pro Bowl form or at least be a top half of the league LT like he was a couple years back. That's probably our best bet and most realistic option at this point.

[RunKC]

So Cam Robinson with the Jaguars was a different player than with the Vikings. His pass blocking grade was noticeably higher with the Jags. He was reliable there.

I think Sam Darnold had a lot to do with Robinson adjusting, as well as being in a new system so quickly.

He appears to be the best option IMO. And I think Veach is going to get him.

[Balto]

I think a vet stopgap that could be had cheap is Terron Armstead. Had a great year actually and Miami could be looking to send out vet contracts atm with young guys waiting to take over. Armstead isn't the future but would be a hell of a lot better than what we have.

Who knows, if Tyreek does something stupid and says he wants to go back to KC and scares all other teams away we could get both for pennies on the dollar.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88

Another broke dick reclamation project.

Sounds like a quitting version of DJ Humphries… pass.

Wills has played a full season once in his five year career… including only 13 games combined the past two seasons.

The fetish people here have for shit players…

You need to have a quick re-evaluation point of today's NFL. Agents and the NFLPA point blank tells players to not let teams take advantage of them. There is a long laundry list of players that have played through things they shouldn't have, shortened their careers etc...and if you think the team is gonna "take care of you" they aren't.

The player is a commodity that will be replaced as soon as it isn't what the team wants, I don't blame players for looking out for themselves in injury scenarios.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

We are not drafting a tackle in this draft. We already have 2 LT's that we used high draft picks on to develop.

We cant just keep using high round picks on LT's and hope one develops. Those picks in the first 3 rounds are needed desperately in other positions other than LT.

A 2 and a 3 for OT's isn't exactly high draft capital for that position, go look at the hit rates, it's like a 5 or a 6 for another position.

[Wallymo]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

May be unfounded, but I'm pretty concerned they've permanently tanked Suamataias confidence. Same thing happened to Moore. I doubt he'd have been anything more than a 4th/5th option in the offense but maybe he wouldn't have devolved into a completely useless sack of shit if he wasn't thrown out to fail on punt returns.

That's a good point on Skyy. Small college kid comes into the NFL and is forced into a role he had never played. Kid fails horribly. It's not inconceivable those return failures impacted his confidence as a receiver. Given his size and speed, Skyy was always going to be a longshot.

I think Kingsley will be different, if for no other reason than his pedigree. He is 6-foot-5 and 326 pounds with 34-inch arms. He was already accustomed to big-time athletics via Oregon and BYU before reaching the NFL. He has family support with real knowledge of his situation and the continuing backing of Andy Reid. His confidence shouldn't be shot, but I hope he has instead been humbled by his experience and putting in the work to turn elite his size and athleticism into production.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

A prospect is just THAT. A prospect.

If we're talking about trading draft capital and players for a sure thing at LT, it's needs to be an established veteran!

Target Laremy Tunsil, Tristan Wirfs, Chargers have Slater (and a ready made replacement in Alt) but I doubt they would wanna deal with us.

If you're gonna 'pay the price' that hurts, do it for someone who has already been successful at a high level in the NFL.

I just don't know there is a match out there to get it done. There's a reason franchise LT's hardly ever become available.

At this point, I'd hope a full off-season of conditioning and getting ready in our offense might allow Humphries to regain Pro Bowl form or at least be a top half of the league LT like he was a couple years back. That's probably our best bet and most realistic option at this point.

This is a nice dream, but it is but a dream. They're all contenders.

Those teams are not trading those players. The Falcons are not trading Jake Matthews.

The Chiefs will have to either (1) keep pressing bid until they get Alaric Jackson or Ronnie Stanley, assuming those guys even make it to FA (and both carry their own risks - Jackson in his lack of track record, Stanley in his injury histroy) or (2) tackle it with a numbers game (Keep Humphries, sign another contender in FA or draft another one, and make it an open competition between those players and Morris and Suamataia at TC) or (3) randomly get lucky.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

This is a nice dream, but it is but a dream. They're all contenders.

Those teams are not trading those players. The Falcons are not trading Jake Matthews.

The Chiefs will have to either (1) keep pressing bid until they get Alaric Jackson or Ronnie Stanley, assuming those guys even make it to FA (and both carry their own risks - Jackson in his lack of track record, Stanley in his injury histroy) or (2) tackle it with a numbers game (Keep Humphries, sign another contender in FA or draft another one, and make it an open competition between those players and Morris and Suamataia at TC) or (3) randomly get lucky.

No, I get it. Which is why I said it's probably not realistic. I just meant if ever a big trade opportunity presented itself, I don't want to do it for a draft pick to shore up LT. I want the experienced guy. LT prospects crap out too frequently. It's not a strong draft for LT either.

Stanley is intresting. He started all 17 games last year (for the first time in his career). If you're REALLY convinced he's gotten past his injury issues, maybe you take a chance on him. But you're gonna have to be REALLY sure cause he ain't gonna come cheap. Also, the opportunity to weaken the Ravens is interesting as well. But I imagine he's gonna want $25 mil. per year minimum.

Would you give Stanley 4 years $100 mil. w/ $75 mil. gtd? Because I think that is the framework of what his agent will be looking for.

[Eureka]

Seems the Chiefs are going to have to trade for a LT and pay. Bite the bullet now and get it done.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

This is a nice dream, but it is but a dream. They're all contenders.

Those teams are not trading those players. The Falcons are not trading Jake Matthews.

The Chiefs will have to either (1) keep pressing bid until they get Alaric Jackson or Ronnie Stanley, assuming those guys even make it to FA (and both carry their own risks - Jackson in his lack of track record, Stanley in his injury histroy) or (2) tackle it with a numbers game (Keep Humphries, sign another contender in FA or draft another one, and make it an open competition between those players and Morris and Suamataia at TC) or (3) randomly get lucky.

I choose option 4.

Stomp my foot and scream louder until we have an OT that locks down the left side for the next decade.

I don't know why Veach hasn't just done that already.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Me thinks if Baltimore lets Stanley hit the market, Andy and Veach are going to do literally
whatever it takes to get him in red and gold - at least to the same extent that they offered Trent Williams the sun and moon four years ago

Whether we like the final numbers or not

And given it would be a set it and forget it solution mentally for Patrick, I would understand

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88

Prepare for a repeat of this season… that’s the reality if they keep trying the same strategy of filling the LT position on the cheap.

Definition of insanity… keep trying a failed strategy.

And the fact that Jawaan Taylor’s contract is hindering their flexibility to invest more in LT just adds insult to injury considering how much of an epic fail he has been at RT.

Talk about overexaggerating. He's not Schwartz, but he is by no means an epic fail at RT.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Me thinks if Baltimore lets Stanley hit the market, Andy and Veach are going to do literally
whatever it takes to get him in red and gold - at least to the same extent that they offered Trent Williams the sun and moon four years ago

Whether we like the final numbers or not

And given it would be a set it and forget it solution mentally for Patrick, I would understand

I feel like Baltimore is the one team that shouldn't spend much on a LT. Lamar is not a traditional pocket passer and their offense is just run different than other teams.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Me thinks if Baltimore lets Stanley hit the market, Andy and Veach are going to do literally
whatever it takes to get him in red and gold - at least to the same extent that they offered Trent Williams the sun and moon four years ago

Whether we like the final numbers or not

And given it would be a set it and forget it solution mentally for Patrick, I would understand

I'd be good with it, but man, they better sign somebody like Humphires or Wills for insurance too.