Royals Stadium Watch 2024 -Jackson County Residents: How Are You Voting? - Page 70

Pablo · 03-28-2024, 08:28 AM

Vote in this poll if you actually live in Jackson county.

We've all shared our opinions in the other thread. But who gives a shit what somebody in Platte County or Johnson County or Phoenix or NYC thinks. We're all just noise.

TomBarndtsTwin · 04-03-2024, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cooter Bailey

They specifically believed that the Garden of Eden was in St. Joseph. I’ve driven through there and can’t find it. 😂

Look for the giant flaming sword.

You BETTER know the password, though.

Mr. Plow · 04-03-2024, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

It would be stupid to give Jackson County a second chance.

I don't think they will.

George Liquor · 04-03-2024, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

I don't even think the Royals should allow Kansas City to be in their name anymore. How about the Kansas Royals? Or the Johnson County Royals?

That would be great.

Relegate the Royals to Topeka until they build a winner again.

Mr. Plow · 04-03-2024, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

I don't even think the Royals should allow Kansas City to be in their name anymore. How about the Kansas Royals? Or the Johnson County Royals?

That would be great.

North Eastern Kansas Baseball Team

BWillie · 04-03-2024, 02:13 PM

Look at these ****ing losers

Pepe Silvia · 04-03-2024, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

I don't even think the Royals should allow Kansas City to be in their name anymore. How about the Kansas Royals? Or the Johnson County Royals?

That would be great.

Montreal Royals.

**dirk digler** · 04-03-2024, 02:15 PM

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansasci...ium=trueAnthem

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What about the Chiefs?

The Chiefs for years have voiced a consistent desire to remain at GEHA Field at Arrowhead Stadium. Team plans shared during the Jackson County sales tax campaign called for a $800 million renovation to Arrowhead and its surroundings, with new tailgate areas, entertainment space and suites.

The teams' "Yes On 1" campaign, managed by Axiom Strategies, was heavy on campaign mailers suggesting a sales tax rejection would mean the Chiefs' departure from Kansas City, perhaps to a new stadium in Kansas. Sources last fall said Kansas leaders broached the topic with the Chiefs during a regional trade trip to Germany that overlapped with overseas football play. But both parties say no official meetings or discussions happened before or after that trip.

Other sources said the Chiefs had pushed for an April sales tax vote, at least in part, out of a desire to pursue state funding before Missouri Gov. Mike Parson, a noted team fan, leaves office in January. Sources for a $500 million financial gap in the Chiefs' renovation project have yet to be specified.

It's not clear how Tuesday's outcome would have changed if just the Chiefs' proposal were on the ballot. White last week said he would be receptive to a Chiefs-only ballot question, involving a three-sixteenths-cent sales tax, rather than three eighths, over 40 years, "while the Royals finalize their planning."

"(Jackson County) voters have spoken," White posted to social media Tuesday evening, after the sales tax vote. "I'll say more on the election results and what happens next soon. Stay tuned!"

Pablo · 04-03-2024, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bdj23

Relegate the Royals to Topeka until they build a winner again.

This seems fair. I've long proposed they take over the TBones Park until they can clear .500 three seasons in a row.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 04-03-2024, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansasci...ium=trueAnthem

Frank White

... Loved him as a Royal, but the Chiefs have way more leverage an would never settle for 3/16ths, that's why they sandbagged this in the first place.

jettio · 04-03-2024, 02:43 PM

IDK, when you think about it. The only reason the Chiefs want some tax money for the cost of renovation is that Jackson County is the owner of the Truman Sports Complex.

Chiefs will stay at Arrowhead if another tax is approved or if they take over ownership from County at a reasonable price.

Chiefs make so much money that they could privately finance and fully own any new stadium if they get a sweetheart deal on land at an ideal location.

So for the Chiefs and maybe even for the Royals, the idea will be public should help pay for improvements or construction if the stadium is not owned by team.

If public does not want to pitch in on renovations, then give up ownership or team will build new with own money or team will sell a monorail to some rubes elsewhere and county can own a piece of history and figure it out.

I think the next vote for Arrowhead could be extend the current tax for the term of the new lease or have County give up ownership of Truman Sports Complex to the teams or one team if the other team does not extend lease.

That should be the questions put to voters or elected officials. pitch in if teams are not the owners, or give up ownership if no pitch in on renovations.

When you think about it, Royals could build new in Kansas City with TIF and fully own with tax breaks for a long time. The piss and moan about tax breaks to the rich for TIF will sound stupid when the same people campaigned against a proposal to have public pitch in to renovate or build a stadium that the Royals do not own.

Chiefs will stay at Arrowhead as owners or with a new Jackson County tax or Kansas City tax if Chiefs are not owners.

Royals will build new and get a whole lot more in tax breaks on a stadium and real estate development they fully own than they ever would have gotten from a sales tax to help pay for a publicly owned stadium.

**dirk digler** · 04-03-2024, 03:02 PM

Let the games begin

https://www.kansascity.com/news/poli...#storylink=cpy

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Former Kansas House Speaker Ron Ryckman Jr., an Olathe Republican, is quietly working with unnamed parties interested in bringing the Kansas City Chiefs across the border, The Star has learned.

Jackson County voters’ rejection of a stadiums sales tax opens a new opportunity for Kansas to attempt to lure one or both teams. Ryckman and his mystery stakeholders are betting the time is right. “Jackson County fumbled. Now there will be a mad scramble for the ball and we’re in the best position for a scoop and score,” Ryckman said in a text message to The Star.

As the Chiefs and Royals have publicly weighed their options ahead of the expiration of their leases at Truman Sports Complex in 2031, rumblings about a possible move across state lines by one of the teams – often the Chiefs – have only grown. Jackson County would have likely put that speculation to rest with approval of the tax; now, the attention on Kansas is expected to grow.

Discuss Thrower · 04-03-2024, 03:03 PM

Good luck trying to delineate between the implications of extending the sales tax to benefit billionaires versus tax breaks which benefit billionaires to thousands of <90 IQs.

ghak99 · 04-03-2024, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Marny Sherman in the comments wildin

I bet she's fun to live with.

DQCHIEF · 04-03-2024, 03:07 PM

I was a STL Ram season ticket holder before they left. The very next year I became a Chiefs season ticket holder. I live 3 1/2 hours from KC. I was shocked how inexpensive it was to be a season ticket holder for the Chiefs. No PSL! I paid 10,000 for 2 seats in STL. Of course that was before Mahomes so there were plenty available. I really hope they get this figured out. Ive experienced a team leaving when a lot of people said they never would. Thanks

Sassy Squatch · 04-03-2024, 03:08 PM

It'll be extremely telling if the Chiefs won't engage separately with Jackson County and announce plans elsewhere before giving them a chance.

View Poll Results: What Lever You Flippin??
Yes	16	14.16%
No	16	14.16%
I don't live in Jackson County, but would vote Yes	59	52.21%
I don't live in Jackson County, but would vote No	22	19.47%
Voters: 113. You may not vote on this poll

03-28-2024, 08:28 AM
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jettio MVP Join Date: Sep 2002 Casino cash: $4814930	IDK, when you think about it. The only reason the Chiefs want some tax money for the cost of renovation is that Jackson County is the owner of the Truman Sports Complex. Chiefs will stay at Arrowhead if another tax is approved or if they take over ownership from County at a reasonable price. Chiefs make so much money that they could privately finance and fully own any new stadium if they get a sweetheart deal on land at an ideal location. So for the Chiefs and maybe even for the Royals, the idea will be public should help pay for improvements or construction if the stadium is not owned by team. If public does not want to pitch in on renovations, then give up ownership or team will build new with own money or team will sell a monorail to some rubes elsewhere and county can own a piece of history and figure it out. I think the next vote for Arrowhead could be extend the current tax for the term of the new lease or have County give up ownership of Truman Sports Complex to the teams or one team if the other team does not extend lease. That should be the questions put to voters or elected officials. pitch in if teams are not the owners, or give up ownership if no pitch in on renovations. When you think about it, Royals could build new in Kansas City with TIF and fully own with tax breaks for a long time. The piss and moan about tax breaks to the rich for TIF will sound stupid when the same people campaigned against a proposal to have public pitch in to renovate or build a stadium that the Royals do not own. Chiefs will stay at Arrowhead as owners or with a new Jackson County tax or Kansas City tax if Chiefs are not owners. Royals will build new and get a whole lot more in tax breaks on a stadium and real estate development they fully own than they ever would have gotten from a sales tax to help pay for a publicly owned stadium. __________________ Where Ignorance is Bliss, 'Tis Folly to be Wise. __
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Discuss Thrower "You like to drink?" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: "I like to drink." Casino cash: $1186869	Good luck trying to delineate between the implications of extending the sales tax to benefit billionaires versus tax breaks which benefit billionaires to thousands of <90 IQs. __________________ Chiefs 2016 Opponents: Home: JAX, TEN, NO, TB, NYJ. Away: HOU, IND, ATL, CAR, PIT Chiefs 2017 Opponents: Home: BUF, MIA, PHI, WSH, AFC North. Away: NE, NYJ, NYG, DAL, AFC South
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DQCHIEF Rookie Join Date: Mar 2020 Casino cash: $9550400	I was a STL Ram season ticket holder before they left. The very next year I became a Chiefs season ticket holder. I live 3 1/2 hours from KC. I was shocked how inexpensive it was to be a season ticket holder for the Chiefs. No PSL! I paid 10,000 for 2 seats in STL. Of course that was before Mahomes so there were plenty available. I really hope they get this figured out. Ive experienced a team leaving when a lot of people said they never would. Thanks
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Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $389655	It'll be extremely telling if the Chiefs won't engage separately with Jackson County and announce plans elsewhere before giving them a chance.
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