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Old 02-27-2025, 01:14 PM  
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Old 02-27-2025, 02:31 PM   #91
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Hopefully tag and trade
Hopefully not. Trey is an all pro OG.
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Old 02-27-2025, 02:32 PM   #92
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Veach has said that LT is one of the priorities this Off Season AND that they like Suamataias potential inside. Unless you just refuse to take his words at face value, the path forward for Kingsley is already apparent.
Veach is no longer as transparent as he once was. He now does the GM version of coach speak. It's really hard to get much from what he says these days.
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Old 02-27-2025, 02:35 PM   #93
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So you're saying they shoulda been taking G"s early in the past few rounds recently....instead of the WR's and playmakers you were wanting at the time.
When did I say use an early pick? IOL, ILB, RB are the types of positions you can actually find quality players later in the draft. Unlike high skill positions you can settle for above average even if not dominant. Flood the team with lots and lots of value options and find guys who can stick. If we do that we can focus our dollars and blue chip picks on the high positional value spots.
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Old 02-27-2025, 02:35 PM   #94
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Tagging seemed like the option that wasn’t on the table.

Anyone who brought it up here got shut down pretty quick.

I think you’re right. They either 1) have a trade partner or 2) have a deal and didn’t want him to get cold feet.
I doubt they have a deal. I would guess his agent probably indicated they wanted to test the market. This prevents them from doing that and if Smith wants long term security the Chiefs are the only game in town or on the flip side the Chiefs might be betting that there are a number of teams with a ton of cap room, OL problems and not enough FA's to sign. So maybe get a 3rd/4th pick back.

But I doubt they have a partner and I doubt they have a deal, this is Veech rolling the dice and making a educated bet.
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Old 02-27-2025, 02:37 PM   #95
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Hopefully not. Trey is an all pro OG.
He's never been an All Pro guard.

He made the Pro Bowl for his first time this year.
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Old 02-27-2025, 02:39 PM   #96
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Hamstringing yourself with very little chance now at adequately addressing left tackle and paying almost $90 million in 2025 on an OL that looked like the worst in the league in the Super Bowl sounds like brilliant team building strategy
100% Our o line got spanked in the Super Bowl and it wasn't all because of our left tackle.
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Old 02-27-2025, 02:42 PM   #97
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So until they reach a long term deal or trade him… Trey Smith will count like $23 million against the Chiefs salary cap.

And they will be addressing LT how exactly?
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Old 02-27-2025, 02:43 PM   #98
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You guys are ****ing insane right now.

This interior OL has been part of damn near the entire run so far and won two Super Bowls. They are not the issue with the OL.

It's LT, the impact it had on Mahomes' mental, and the lack of an explosive run game last year. And no, this doesn't mean they can't adequately fix LT too. Whatever they want, it's still in play.
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Old 02-27-2025, 02:48 PM   #99
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Feels like a tag and trade (See: LJS), but I could certainly be wrong here.
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You guys are ****ing insane right now.

This interior OL has been part of damn near the entire run so far and won two Super Bowls. They are not the issue with the OL.

It's LT, the impact it had on Mahomes' mental, and the lack of an explosive run game last year.
But can the Chiefs significantly invest/upgrade LT, while paying a premium at every other position on the offensive line, or is that salary cap prohibitive?

Even before this Trey Smith franchise tag hit, the Chiefs already had more of their salary cap invested in guards, than any other team in the league.
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You guys are ****ing insane right now.

This interior OL has been part of damn near the entire run so far and won two Super Bowls. They are not the issue with the OL.

It's LT, the impact it had on Mahomes' mental, and the lack of an explosive run game last year.
I would agree LT was the issue for most of the season and was still an issue in the playoffs at times, but the interior O-Line absolutely got worked in the SB by Philly's front four. Badly.

Now maybe the Chiefs are considering that performance a 'one off' and assuming the only thing that really needs 'fixed' is LT. But I'm not sure how they expect to do that if they're tying up $23 mil. in Trey.

So, naturally, that leads us back to one of two things:

1. They are almost in agreement on a long term deal and need to dot the i's and cross the T's

OR

2. They are working on a trade for Trey and hoping like hell to get it done before FA opens on March 12th.
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But can the Chiefs significantly invest/upgrade LT, while paying a premium at every other position on the offensive line, or is that salary cap prohibitive?

Even before this Trey Smith franchise tag hit, the Chiefs already had more of their salary cap invested in guards, than any other team in the league.
And one of those guards will be replaced by a guy on a rookie deal next year.

Jesus Christ, 7 straight AFCCG's, 5 SB's and 3 Lombardis and some of you think we have a window licking mouthbreather for a GM.

It's not even March yet. Dude has a plan, let's see it play out.
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Feels like a tag and trade, but I could certainly be wrong here.
I hope so, because Smith can't pass block for shit.
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I mean... we've seen this dance before. Either they sign him to a long term deal that brings down his number OR they sign and trade him.

I think with all the smoke about optimism over a long term deal this is a way to buy some time to hammer that out.

We'll see.
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But can the Chiefs significantly invest/upgrade LT, while paying a premium at every other position on the offensive line, or is that salary cap prohibitive?

Even before this Trey Smith franchise tag hit, the Chiefs already had more of their salary cap invested in guards, than any other team in the league.
Terrible cap allocation.
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