Let's talk about the offseason (2025 edition)

[TLO]

Well. That sucked!

There are sure to be some big changes coming next season.

Talk about it here.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by T-post Tom

They're going to have to do something with Jawaan Taylor. His cap # next year is fourth highest on the team at $27,391,666. That's about 10% of the team cap. He's vastly overpaid but I don't think cutting him is the answer. A restructure seems like the best outcome considering the dead money & other o-line issues.

I don't think they HAVE to do something with Taylor. They might.

But if they're looking to move on from him after 2025, the best bet would be sitting tight on that deal, if you can.

If they move Taylor around, they're likely committing to him for 2025, 2026, and 2027. Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to me (I don't get overly hysterical about what he is like Facebook-level fans).

More likely, to me, they create room by doing something with Mahomes' contract, extend Thuney a few years, and maybe do something with Jones' deal.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Am I wrong for only wanting a RG on a rookie deal at this point?

Not at all. It’s not sensible to have three out of five OL positions on massive second contracts.

Trey was a great pick. We got great value out of him, but he's not the guy you want to sink a bunch of money into, IMO.

Originally Posted by T-post Tom

They're going to have to do something with Jawaan Taylor. His cap # next year is fourth highest on the team at $27,391,666. That's about 10% of the team cap. He's vastly overpaid but I don't think cutting him is the answer. A restructure seems like the best outcome considering the dead money & other o-line issues.

We’re stuck with his contract for at least 2025. The dead cap number, even if he was designated a post-June 1st cut, is still greater than/equal to his current cap hit.

We can’t save money on him until 2026. In fact, he may just play out his entire contract. His cap hit in 2026 is also $27m.

I’m just not sure you can replace LT, RG, and TE in two offseasons, especially if we lose a large portion of Bolton, Reid, Omenihu, Hollywood in this FA period.

[SAGA45]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The most obvious reason being it's dumb. It isn't 1995 and we have Patrick Mahomes.

No shit, Agatha Christie. Mahomes is the reason I'd like to see a run-focused offense as odd (or ridiculous) as that may sound.

I think D-coordinators would shit themselves having to face a daunting ground game knowing that, at any given point Mahomes could shred them through the air. So in this case, a run-heavy design wouldn't exactly mean the offense is one-dimensional. In fact, it could potentially be even more explosive. But that's just me.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by SAGA45

No shit, Agatha Christie. Mahomes is the reason I'd like to see a run-focused offense as odd (or ridiculous) as that may sound.

I think D-coordinators would shit themselves having to face a daunting ground game knowing that, at any given point Mahomes could shred them through the air. So in this case, a run-heavy design wouldn't exactly mean the offense is one-dimensional. In fact, it could potentially be even more explosive. But that's just me.

It's a dumb idea. Let it go.

[RunKC]

The Chiefs should not pay Trey Smith. He’s overrated and nowhere close to as good as Thuney in pass pro.

Buyer beware with Trey Smith pic.twitter.com/64zEMtxFD9

— Steven Patton (@PattonAnalytics) February 19, 2025

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I'll miss Trey, his demeanor especially.

That said I think it's very obvious he'd better fit with an offense that's run-first. The same way it seems better for our WRs to be separators, I would think it's best for our OL to be pass blockers first.

That's why Kingsley, with what should be really good feet for a guard, actually excites me on some level. I think he will be a really good pass protector in there.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by SAGA45

No shit, Agatha Christie. Mahomes is the reason I'd like to see a run-focused offense as odd (or ridiculous) as that may sound.

I think D-coordinators would shit themselves having to face a daunting ground game knowing that, at any given point Mahomes could shred them through the air. So in this case, a run-heavy design wouldn't exactly mean the offense is one-dimensional. In fact, it could potentially be even more explosive. But that's just me.

You're right, it does sound ridiculous, and I have been advocating for more of a running game for years now.

We need a better threat at RB Some speed and elusiveness, but it should not ever be a run heavy team. Run enough to keep em honest.

[Megatron96]

Would we be interested in DK Metcalf for our 1st? Read a rumor SEA might be interested in trading him.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Would we be interested in DK Metcalf for our 1st? Read a rumor SEA might be interested in trading him.

Nope. Hard pass on trading the 1st and then giving him a huge contract.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Would we be interested in DK Metcalf for our 1st? Read a rumor SEA might be interested in trading him.

No, but I would trade Hardman and Moore for him and finally put that baby to rest.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I don't think they HAVE to do something with Taylor. They might.

But if they're looking to move on from him after 2025, the best bet would be sitting tight on that deal, if you can.

If they move Taylor around, they're likely committing to him for 2025, 2026, and 2027. Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to me (I don't get overly hysterical about what he is like Facebook-level fans).

More likely, to me, they create room by doing something with Mahomes' contract, extend Thuney a few years, and maybe do something with Jones' deal.

I would strongly prefer to stand pat with Taylor's deal. I don't hate the player, but we are overpaying. I'd rather have the opportunity to move on in 26 if we feel that is best.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Would we be interested in DK Metcalf for our 1st? Read a rumor SEA might be interested in trading him.

Please don't get on this train.

[T-post Tom]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I don't think they HAVE to do something with Taylor. They might.

But if they're looking to move on from him after 2025, the best bet would be sitting tight on that deal, if you can.

If they move Taylor around, they're likely committing to him for 2025, 2026, and 2027. Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to me (I don't get overly hysterical about what he is like Facebook-level fans).

More likely, to me, they create room by doing something with Mahomes' contract, extend Thuney a few years, and maybe do something with Jones' deal.

You may be right, but pushing Mahomes’ money further & further & further out will lead to an unwieldy albatross. The Piper has to be paid at some point. Taylor is overpaid, but I don’t think that they’re looking to get rid of him. He’s still a young player and has improved his play. That said, he doesn’t seem to have a much higher ceiling & is overpaid at RT. I’ll wager you some casino cash that he gets his contract reworked.

[SAGA45]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

You're right, it does sound ridiculous, and I have been advocating for more of a running game for years now.

We need a better threat at RB Some speed and elusiveness, but it should not ever be a run heavy team. Run enough to keep em honest.

I can dig it. Balance is best, I agree. I guess I just want DC's to basically be forced to choose how they want to die.

I'd love to see the Chiefs rotate two-three backs, constant fresh legs, and beat a defense to death with the running game even if just for few a scattered games throughout the season.

Commentator A: "Chiefs on their way to another win here and I gotta say, I haven't seen anything like this since the 90s...80s even. This is throwback, smashmouth football and I never thought I'd see this from Andy Reid. But here we are and it's brutal. Look at this defense, gasping... heads down. Slow to get up after every play. "

Commentator B: "Yeah, brutal is right. And they've still got Mahomes and these receivers. They can kill ya through the air if they want. They're still explosive. I don't envy D-coordinators facing this Chiefs offense in 2025. This is absolute nightmare fuel."

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by T-post Tom

You may be right, but pushing Mahomes’ money further & further & further out will lead to an unwieldy albatross. The Piper has to be paid at some point. Taylor is overpaid, but I don’t think that they’re looking to get rid of him. He’s still a young player and has improved his play. That said, he doesn’t seem to have a much higher ceiling & is overpaid at RT. I’ll wager you some casino cash that he gets his contract reworked.

But pushing Mahomes out is the plan. They designed that contract - with its low signing bonus - so they could move money from it any time they needed to. It’s really designed to have money moved every year. His current prorated cap hits are small, for an elite QB.

I’ve heard they’re working on an adjustment/reworking/extension of the deal, again.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they move Taylor’s money and wouldn’t bet against it happening. Just saying they don’t HAVE to do it. The hit is big this year because they’ve done it already …