RB has an argument for being our biggest team need

[RunKC]

Man it’s bad. Like really bad. Really really really bad.

The Chiefs have the least explosive RB room in the NFL. Only 17 explosive plays from RB’s. Pacheco is the most explosive guy, and he’s been a good soldier here, but he’s not the guy. Excellent change of pace back, but his vision is bad and his lateral agility isn’t good either.

I love Kareem but he’s winding down. He’s 30 next year and you could see the wheels start to come off with usage.

I think we should consider a RB rd 1 if the board gets dicey, but ideally we sign someone like Ty Johnson from Buffalo. Also to preface this I think LT is numero uno for us and this is a scenario where one is just not attainable.

Everyone gets so mad at this offense and blames coaching but the pieces have just not been there. The truth is this team badly misses Jerrick McKinnon. They’ve gotten some of that from Perine but it’s just not enough.

We got 1 TD from a RB in the passing game this year. Compare that to:

2023: 7
2022: 12
2021: 5

Major major drop in production there that has killed the offense. I see these playoff teams with quality backs and it’s helped them tremendously.

Getting an explosive, dynamic playmaking RB has to be a major priority. It could change the entire offense and help soften the blow of losing Kelce (eventually) and working on LT

[kccrow]

Tuten has become my guy. Elite speed. Good runner and receiver. Good vision, great contact balance. He's at least a willing pass blocker but he needs a lot of coaching there. He's a discount Henderson for me. We should be able to get him at the bottom of the 4th. I like the value there. His biggest issue for me is fumbles but I remember Jamaal having that issue coming out too and he corrected it.

Spending a day 1 or 2 pick on a RB just seems foolish for an Andy Reid offense. I just don't think we rely enough on a RB to justify spending a high pick on one. If we did, I might be pounding the table for a guy like Omarion Hampton in the 1st or Kaleb Johnson in the 2nd. Those guys look like 3-down horses.

[RunKC]

That’s interesting. Tuten is comped to Pacheco with the same vision issues. Wouldn’t be a bad day 3 pick.

Would also be good on kickoff returns too

[CatfishBob2]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Tuten has become my guy. Elite speed. Good runner and receiver. Good vision, great contact balance. He's at least a willing pass blocker but he needs a lot of coaching there. He's a discount Henderson for me. We should be able to get him at the bottom of the 4th. I like the value there. His biggest issue for me is fumbles but I remember Jamaal having that issue coming out too and he corrected it.

Spending a day 1 or 2 pick on a RB just seems foolish for an Andy Reid offense. I just don't think we rely enough on a RB to justify spending a high pick on one. If we did, I might be pounding the table for a guy like Omarion Hampton in the 1st or Kaleb Johnson in the 2nd. Those guys look like 3-down horses.

I would be partial to Tuten as a VT fan and a bigger fan of the previous school he was at but I'd much rather go after a back like Hampton who could squeeze something out of nothing and fall forward a few yards. We should be punishing teams loading up to stop Pat. It's time for us to go after a special RB and those are hard to find after Day 2

[Couch-Potato]

Tuten’s Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-32q8DjMgkU

I haven’t watched his actual tape, but in his highlight real he shows plenty of vision.

Uses his blockers well to set up big plays, doesn’t just run full speed.

I’m very interested.

[Couch-Potato]

I like all of em lol…

Jeanty
Hampton
Johnson
Henderson
Judkins
Sampson
Neal
B. Smith
Tuten
Harvey
Gordon

Hey Veach, let’s just get crazy and go all Mike Ditka and Rickey Williams on this draft for Jeanty!?

Who else?

[SAGA45]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Highest volume receiving back in CFB last year with 64 receptions.

6 ft
207 lbs
10.25 hands

3 down back looks like a natural fit in our offense.

LeQuint Allen is the MOST UNDERRATED player in the entire 2025 NFL Draft.

He has 2836 yards, 30 TDs, and 118 MTF in the last 2 seasons. He is a dangerous receiving threat, only dropping 4% of targets with 104 catches.

I currently have a day 2 grade on him in a stacked RB class. pic.twitter.com/qUjfkiynOS

— NFL Draft Files (@NFL_DF) February 1, 2025

Seems like the type that Veach picks late that nobody knows about until lthey look up his film and get amped about him. Good find!

[Mosbonian]

From one of the lists posted earlier in this thread, here is what I would have on my list of RB pick ups....


Ashton Jeanty, Boise State-(Pretty good bet that Jeanty will not last to us, but if for some wild reason he dropped to us, I would pull the trigger....)

Omarion Hampton, North Carolina
TreVeyon Henderson, Ohio State
Quinshon Judkins, Ohio State
Ollie Gordon II, Oklahoma State
Dylan Sampson, Tennessee
Devin Neal, Kansas
Jarquez Hunter, Auburn

I could see Nate Noel as a late round option or even an undrafted pick up but I would not spend an early pick on him (Round 1-5)

As a question for the rest of the crowd......why is everyone down on Samaje Perine? For the role he was asked to play, I thought he was a good pickup.

Also.....why does everyone think we should keep Carson Steele.....to me he pretty much fizzled after the early hype.

I know they will continue to ride with Pacheco but as stated here on other posts, he seems to be bad about reading his blockers and loves to run over people too much. Hunt was a good pickup but how much does he have left in the tank?

[Couch-Potato]

I like Perine just fine, buuut memories of McKinnon get in the way of calling him a true impact and I wouldn’t mind replacing him.

Pachecco will be on the last year of his rookie deal, super cheap, so I assume we keep him but I’d like to see us find his replacement. We’re not paying his 2nd contract.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Highest volume receiving back in CFB last year with 64 receptions.

6 ft
207 lbs
10.25 hands

3 down back looks like a natural fit in our offense.

LeQuint Allen is the MOST UNDERRATED player in the entire 2025 NFL Draft.

He has 2836 yards, 30 TDs, and 118 MTF in the last 2 seasons. He is a dangerous receiving threat, only dropping 4% of targets with 104 catches.

I currently have a day 2 grade on him in a stacked RB class. pic.twitter.com/qUjfkiynOS

— NFL Draft Files (@NFL_DF) February 1, 2025

{shrug}

Looks like a 3rd day dart throw to me. Doesn't even really move like a RB; super inefficient, IMO. I also don't see any burst to speak of at all.

As far as highlight tapes go, that's not terribly impressive. Looks like a guy who occasionally flashes against inferior athletes. Nice contact balance but he also has that Pacheco sort of approach in that he runs at guys. Except unlike Pacheco, he seems to do it because he realizes he lacks the explosiveness to try to go around them.

Hey, I'm wrong all the time. But I'm not even sure I see an NFL player there. Certainly not someone I'd get excited about.

To each their own.

Looking forward to the week before the draft when we have people talking themselves into him in the 1st round somehow.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Andy is going to love Skattebo.

[O.city]

I want nothing to do with a guy that has to "run thru college defenders" to get yardage.

You aren't going to be successful very long playing that way in the NFL. No thanks.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

What's not to like about Skattebo?

[RunKC]

RJ Harvey continues to be interesting as hell. I really like him.

Career missed tackles forced and yards per touch from the last two RB classes pic.twitter.com/fNsHiLaxx3

— Football Insights �� (@fball_insights) February 20, 2025

Career Explosive Run rates from 2025 RBs

RJ Harvey: 21%
Jarquez Hunter: 18.9%
Cam Skattebo/Bhayshul Tuten: 18%
Marcus Yarns: 17.9%
Damien Martinez: 17.8% pic.twitter.com/oHfAbvtUlI

— Football Insights �� (@fball_insights) February 20, 2025

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by RunKC

RJ Harvey continues to be interesting as hell. I really like him.

Career missed tackles forced and yards per touch from the last two RB classes pic.twitter.com/fNsHiLaxx3

— Football Insights �� (@fball_insights) February 20, 2025

Career Explosive Run rates from 2025 RBs

RJ Harvey: 21%
Jarquez Hunter: 18.9%
Cam Skattebo/Bhayshul Tuten: 18%
Marcus Yarns: 17.9%
Damien Martinez: 17.8% pic.twitter.com/oHfAbvtUlI

— Football Insights �� (@fball_insights) February 20, 2025

He's perfect for our late 3rd if we miss out on that 2nd tier.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kccrow

What's not to like about Skattebo?

He's slow and he's taken a lot of abuse in college.

I just don't see a role for him at this level. He appears to be a pretty good route runner but is iffy enough in pass pro that you don't love him as a 3rd down back. He's certainly not someone I'd want to be giving the ball between the 20s because he doesn't have any sort of long speed.

I think he MIGHT be able to give you something similar to what Hunt did this season. But even that might be a stretch as Hunt's vision really is special -- I don't think Skattebo's is; probably merely good.

He might be in my top 15 at RB? maybe. But I'd take Harvey over him for sure. Honestly, I even prefer someone like Damien Martinez. Or take a flyer on an Ollie Gordon. I've already talked about Tuten - I'd definitely prefer him. Probably Sanders out of South Carolina. Antario Brown from NIU is far more intriguing. I mean if I'm going with someone with Skattebo's speed, gimme Phil Mafeh to at least hammer into guys.

There are just a TON of guys I like more than him.

There will be RBs I like more than Skattebo going undrafted. I just can't talk myself into him at all. I mean I'm not a huge fan of, say, Donovan Edwards but I'm not sure why I should think Skattebo is likely to be a better NFL player than him and Edwards could easily end up a UDFA. Or Henry Parrish.

I just don't see much 'there' there.