Lamar Jackson wasn't, isn't, and never will be better than Patrick Mahomes

[Wallcrawler]

This "Lamar Jackson is in the same league as Mahomes" nonsense on every football related show I see needs to stop.

Lamar Jackson, on the biggest stage, has now shit down his leg in both opportunities. Lamar is a player who has to have everything around him working perfectly to have success. Put him down 2 scores and ask him to carry the team, he cannot answer the bell.

There's a big difference between a running quarterback, and a quarterback who can run. Lamar Jackson and The Ravens ran 88 plays and put up 12 points.

Jackson attempted 59 passes, only threw one touchdown, but also threw two picks and lost a fumble. 12 points on 59 pass attempts should tell you all you need to know about Lamar as a QB when the lights are the brightest.

Nobody would bat an eye if before the game, soneone told us Pat would put the ball up 59 times. Matter of fact, id be pretty excited to see how many points and yards he would put up in that span of plays.

When things got bad for both QBs, you saw the odds on favorite to win the MVP this year get visible frustrated, press, and ultimately fold. He was nowhere to be seen trying to work out what was happening, rallying his team, he simply pouted on the sideline as his team fell further behind.

The reigning MVP had literally no quit. Its one thing to say after the fact, that we had faith all along, its quite another for that to be true.

Down 24, think about that for a moment. 24. Mahomes is captured, in that moment on the sideline saying we have everything we want. Everyones already counted us the **** out, so go do something special.

Then, to walk the walk after talking the talk, leading the team to 7 straight touchdowns and 8 scoring drives, throwing 5 touchdown passes, and displaying a fiery emotion that if you dont feel anything when you see this kid going nuts after a huge play, call the coroner, because youre already dead.

The two qbs could not be further apart. Jackson cannot hold Mahomes jock when it comes to putting the team on his back.

Lamar should consider signing with KC as a running back. Its the only way barring injury to Mahomes, that hes ever getting a ring.

Mahomes is the MVP. Its not even close. Lamar is a running back executing the halfback pass play about 20-25 times a game.

Jacksons first two years have ended with dud playoff performances.

Mahomes first two years as a starter sees his team hosting back to back AFC title games for a frachise that in its entire history never hosted a single one before he arrived.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Sure pal. Sure.

Since were giving each other advice, its probably best for you if you dont like a thread, maybe don't post in it. Especially if said post exposes your complete ****ing ignorance on the topic lol. Hurr durr, i didn't even know this was a conversation, derp!

Listen, dont get all redassed because i responded to you after you triple posted, then added a **** you Wallcrawler to the end of it.

Seems like your ass needs the dick shoved back in it, so that should be your first priority.

And, if youre going to post something so ****ing stupid, maybe fake a stroke next time.

Yup, you still sound like a bitch. Look at you admitting that your pussy got soft because i dared to say "I didn't realize this was a real argument".



I mean how ****ing sensitive can your bitch ass be? I didn't even address you in particular and here you come labia all hanging out throwing around insults.

It's no ****ing wonder you made this thread. Bitch is just in your nature. It's who you are.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

- Skip and Mangini being two of the most vocal.

Dude...it's very, very obvious that their roles are to play heel to Shannon and Wright's over the top homerism.

[vailpass]

Isn't Lamar Jackson a special needs person? Not nice to pick on those people.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Isn't Lamar Jackson a special needs person? Not nice to pick on those people.

He sure talks like a special needs person.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Was Mahomes handed the MVP by the media halfway through the season?

No. Even to the last game, they were still pushing Brees for MVP even though he had faded badly.

Unfortunately, Lamar believed his own press clippings and it cost him.

Mahomes played like an MVP when his team was down.

Lamar had a minor meltdown.

[ScareCrowe]

https://nypost.com/2019/11/26/lamar-...erback-debate/

It was discussed quite a bit, I could probably find more if I need to, just what I came up with after a 5 minute google search.

[ToxSocks]

For the OP

You's a bitch (Bitch), your mama know you a bitch (Bitch)
Your girl even know you a bitch (Bitch)
I don’t know how she suck your dick

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Pretty much, yes. There were a few dissenting voices with a soft spot for Brees because he's old and hasn't won MVP yet, but most thought Mahomes was the runaway shoe-in. Just look at how the freakin' voting went. It was a landslide.

90% of the media is bending the knee and ya'll focus on 5-10% who dissent for, likely, reasons that actually have nothing to do with football.

For christ's sake, there was a moment this season where they were trying to label Josh Allen as the next Mahomes.

Ya'll don't remember (Chris Collinsworth?) trying to convince people that Trubisky has Mahomes-like qualities?

You're complaining about the media hyping the Titans....well, it's the freakin' AFCCG, what are they suppose to do? NOT say good things about one of only two AFC teams left? And then when they go to pick the game winner it's a damn near unanimous decision....

I guess we remember things differently. It was far more than a few that were on the Brees bandwagon, even when he was tailing off. Yes, when Mahomes hit the magic mark of 50, 5000 that pretty much sealed it.

As far as the over-hyped Titans- let the media build them up as much as they want. It is past the point of being ridiculous. But that is how it is- until the Chiefs win it all, they won't be given any credit for being a great team.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

We live in a different era now. I would have said the same about garopolo and tannehill. Hell, even Rodgers hasn't really been Rodgers this year. Our guy gives us a really great chance to win. But a lamar IF the ravens run the ball well and play great defense still gives that team a decent shot. He is a system qb but he's a tough opponent when that system does its job exceptionally well.

A coach like Harbaugh can decide that he's in love with the guy's speed and say that he's going to try to turn him into a QB. There's nothing wrong with trying it, particularly if the cupboard is bare at QB and you're picking at the bottom of the draft and have few other options. A speculative pick might make sense in that situation.

But you're still essentially saying "We're going to try to be the first to do something that has never worked in NFL history."

And where they've ended up is someone who looks like they might be able to succeed if they get a lot better and are in a great situation. But this year, on a pretty good team, we saw that they are still not close at all.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Was Mahomes handed the MVP by the media halfway through the season?

Lamar wasn't handed the MVP midway through this season either. In fact, at the midway point, it was Russ who was the frontrunner for MVP. It wasn't until Wilson cooled down that the debate ended.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Mahomes played like an MVP when his team was down.

Lamar had a minor meltdown.

It’s kinda strange, but I think the Ravens were somewhat handcuffed in the playoffs by the fact they steamrolled people so easily in the regular season. Their only adversity was Chiefs/Browns losses very early in the year. Chiefs had some injury adversity and some “shoot yourselves in the foot” adversity such as the Titans loss. In a weird way it helped them for the situation last weekend.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Dude...it's very, very obvious that their roles are to play heel to Shannon and Wright's over the top homerism.

Exactly, I agree completely. I was making the point that Mahomes is not considered the best QB in the NFL by many people, including in the media.

IMO, he is the best I have ever seen at Arrowhead and any other times.

The media wants to build up another Brady / Manning and, to be honest- there is not an equal right now.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by ScareCrowe

3/3 Say they'd take Patrick Mahomes.

Originally Posted by ScareCrowe

2/2 Say they'd take Patrick Mahomes.

Originally Posted by ScareCrowe

Dude doesn't actually pick one but says most NFL teams would take Patrick Mahomes.

Again, there's no ****ing debate here. It's not a real thing. It's media created content that some BITCHES takes offense to because "oh how dare they". It's happened every year with every good QB before Mahomes and will continue until you're dead and buried.

[Pitt Gorilla]

It’s like those idiots who don’t think Andy Reid is an outstanding head football coach, only Jackson has a better argument.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Lamar wasn't handed the MVP midway through this season either. In fact, at the midway point, it was Russ who was the frontrunner for MVP. It wasn't until Wilson cooled down that the debate ended.

Okay, so with 6 games left in the season then.

Lamar and the Ravens had been built up as unstoppable. Their ground game was historic this year, but they did have some major flaws, which the Titans exposed.