Chiefs Rumor: Chiefs trying to trade DJ and DaJuan Morgan possibly Albert - Page 7

**dirk digler** · 10-18-2009, 08:39 PM

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The NFL trade deadline is Tuesday at 4 PM Eastern time and the rumors are going to be swirling for the next 48 hour or so.
This report come from Mike Lombardi at the National Football Post, who has consistently delivered solid insider info from Arrowhead. He was very close on early reports about Matt Cassel's contract.

I do want to stress that this is a rumor. From Lombardi:
The Chiefs are trying to move former 2005 first-round linebacker Derrick Johnson and 2008 third-round safety DeJuan Morgan.
Todd Haley and Co. are making no secret about their unhappiness with the players they inherited from the previous regime.
I’m hearing they don’t like anyone, including Branden Albert, who they feel is not a left tackle.

Strong words from Lombardi as we near the trade deadline. I do believe Lombardi is correct in his comments about the Kansas City Chiefs and their intentions for those players. At least in the sense that there are a lot of Chiefs players who could possibly be moved for the right price. Jay Glazer said earlier today that the Chiefs are open to trading any player except for Matt Cassel.

Back in August, we caught wind of a rumor that Scott Pioli offered the Detroit Lions DaJuan Morgan for a 4th round pick. The Lions didn't bite, possibly giving us a glimpse into what Morgan may be worth on the open market.

The question is - Will any other team bite on either DJ, DaJuan Morgan or Branden Albert?

Saccopoo · 10-18-2009, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KCDC

This. If there is one thing we cannot afford to give up at this point, it is OL of any quality. Move DJ or Morgan. I don't care. But we should be acquiring OL, not considering dealing them. If only we had taken a LT at #3, instead of Jackson, we might be looking good.

I'm pretty convinced that if we don't take Jackson, our run defense is even worse this year than last, and I don't even know if that's actually possible to achieve.

It's not a flashy pick, and he won't ever have the stats because of the system and position he plays, but in hindsight, it was a solid pick. And the only LT that I would have drafted last season to be a LT was Oher or Monroe (I liked Oher better though), and if the Chiefs picked him at #3, you would have seen a meltdown of epic proportions.

kcchiefsus · 10-18-2009, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Jake Long, Marcus McNeill and Ryan Clady would disagree with your three year timeframe for left tackles to show their potential.

McNeill regressed in his second season and Jake Long has regressed this year.

Saccopoo · 10-18-2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Well we don't have to worry about that this year since there isn't a franchise caliber LT in this years draft.

I think that Okung is and will be a good LT in the NFL.

However, outside of him, I don't see much other than Zane Beadles of Utah. He's mean as shit, strong as a bull and is putting a guy on the ground on about every single play. Excellent footwork and has the agility to get out and block on the second level. I don't know if it's because he looks like a guard more than a typical LT and that he plays in the MWC, but he should be a lot higher on those "draft guru" sites than he is. He's completely legit, and I think he's a better player than former Ute and first rounder Jordan Gross. Might be better as a right tackle because of his nasty demeanor and strength, but it would almost be a waste of his footwork and agility. One of those guys who could/can be very effective on either side.

Ciron Black of LSU, is immense and talented, but his foot work and agility isn't as good as guys like Okung and Beadles, so he'll probably be looked at as a RT in the NFL even though he's been a very good LT for all four years at LSU.

I haven't seen enough of Fox at Miami (one game this season, and I was a little in the tank during it so I didn't pay enough attention to him), but have heard good things.

Charlie Brown at USC just isn't strong enough to hold off NFL level DE's. He couldn't hold the point of attack versus the ND guys and didn't seem to be able to push guys out and around.

RustShack · 10-18-2009, 11:36 PM

Okung IS Albert. Difference is Okung didn't have Ferguson and Monroe playing with him forcing him inside. Also Okung is a spread LT right now, meaning he will take a few years to progress in the NFL, which you know would just set us back even more since we are already going through that transition with Albert.

**Tribal Warfare** · 10-18-2009, 11:37 PM

One issue that would impede an Albert trade is currently Branden doesn't have great trade value do to his problems.

Saccopoo · 10-18-2009, 11:37 PM

I don't want to give up on Albert either, but drafting a LT does solve two problems on the line in that you can move Albert back to his college guard position and you've upgraded two positions on the line. God knows we need to basically upgrade every position on the O-line, and that would be a good way to do it. I'm not so concerned about Albert not being our LT just because we spent a #15 pick on him, but rather that this line gets a lot better sooner rather than later. If he can be an All-Pro level guard along with the Chiefs getting a stud LT, that's okay by me.

RustShack · 10-18-2009, 11:39 PM

I don't think Albert can be traded anyways... hes hurt right now and I don't think you can trade hurt players can you?

kcchiefsus · 10-18-2009, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I don't think Albert can be traded anyways... hes hurt right now and I don't think you can trade hurt players can you?

Sure you can, why couldn't you? If a teams will to take the risk then by all means he can be traded. It just rarely happens because the players trade value is lower due to the injury.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-18-2009, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I don't buy for one minute they don't like Brendan Albert.

Yeah, this seems like horse shit. If they've managed to find workable ground with Dorsey, I can't see throwing Albert out the door.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-18-2009, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Well we don't have to worry about that this year since there isn't a franchise caliber LT in this years draft.

Your avatar is awesome. It makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

ChiefsCountry · 10-18-2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I think that Okung is and will be a good LT in the NFL.

Yeah lets take the spread offense tackle who got abused last night by Mizzou in the first round.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-19-2009, 12:00 AM

Okung got repeatedly pushed in the backfield by Aldon Smith, who he outweighs by 50 pounds. On top of that, Smith beat him around the edge several times.

No to BlOkung.

Mecca · 10-19-2009, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I think that Okung is and will be a good LT in the NFL.

However, outside of him, I don't see much other than Zane Beadles of Utah. He's mean as shit, strong as a bull and is putting a guy on the ground on about every single play. Excellent footwork and has the agility to get out and block on the second level. I don't know if it's because he looks like a guard more than a typical LT and that he plays in the MWC, but he should be a lot higher on those "draft guru" sites than he is. He's completely legit, and I think he's a better player than former Ute and first rounder Jordan Gross. Might be better as a right tackle because of his nasty demeanor and strength, but it would almost be a waste of his footwork and agility. One of those guys who could/can be very effective on either side.

Ciron Black of LSU, is immense and talented, but his foot work and agility isn't as good as guys like Okung and Beadles, so he'll probably be looked at as a RT in the NFL even though he's been a very good LT for all four years at LSU.

I haven't seen enough of Fox at Miami (one game this season, and I was a little in the tank during it so I didn't pay enough attention to him), but have heard good things.

Charlie Brown at USC just isn't strong enough to hold off NFL level DE's. He couldn't hold the point of attack versus the ND guys and didn't seem to be able to push guys out and around.

The real elite OT prospect at SC is Tyron Smith...he's only a true sophomore but he has all the talent in the world.

Mecca · 10-19-2009, 12:07 AM

The only player on OK State who's worthy of a high pick is Dez Bryant and I'm iffy about him...

ChiefsCountry · 10-19-2009, 12:12 AM

Chiefs have announced several transcations.

The first, the Chiefs have traded Dwayne Bowe to Miami for Ryan Baker, Will Billingsley, JD Folsom, Andrew Hartline, Derrick Jones, Julius Pruitt, James Robinson, and Kory Sperry.

The second, the Chiefs have traded Branden Albert to New England for Titus Adams, Robbie Agone, Kyle Arrington, Bruce Davis, Terrance Nunn, Daryl Richard, Isiaih Stanback and Ryan Wendall.

The third, the Chiefs have traded Derrick Johnson to Dallas for Bobby Carpenter.

10-18-2009, 08:39 PM
dirk digler Please squeeze Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $254644	Rumor: Chiefs trying to trade DJ and DaJuan Morgan possibly Albert http://www.arrowheadpride.com/ The NFL trade deadline is Tuesday at 4 PM Eastern time and the rumors are going to be swirling for the next 48 hour or so. This report come from Mike Lombardi at the National Football Post, who has consistently delivered solid insider info from Arrowhead. He was very close on early reports about Matt Cassel's contract. I do want to stress that this is a rumor. From Lombardi: The Chiefs are trying to move former 2005 first-round linebacker Derrick Johnson and 2008 third-round safety DeJuan Morgan. Todd Haley and Co. are making no secret about their unhappiness with the players they inherited from the previous regime. I’m hearing they don’t like anyone, including Branden Albert, who they feel is not a left tackle. Strong words from Lombardi as we near the trade deadline. I do believe Lombardi is correct in his comments about the Kansas City Chiefs and their intentions for those players. At least in the sense that there are a lot of Chiefs players who could possibly be moved for the right price. Jay Glazer said earlier today that the Chiefs are open to trading any player except for Matt Cassel. Back in August, we caught wind of a rumor that Scott Pioli offered the Detroit Lions DaJuan Morgan for a 4th round pick. The Lions didn't bite, possibly giving us a glimpse into what Morgan may be worth on the open market. The question is - Will any other team bite on either DJ, DaJuan Morgan or Branden Albert?
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10-18-2009, 11:36 PM	#94
RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $3156954	Okung IS Albert. Difference is Okung didn't have Ferguson and Monroe playing with him forcing him inside. Also Okung is a spread LT right now, meaning he will take a few years to progress in the NFL, which you know would just set us back even more since we are already going through that transition with Albert. __________________
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Saccopoo Kindness in words... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Zion Casino cash: $10025483	I don't want to give up on Albert either, but drafting a LT does solve two problems on the line in that you can move Albert back to his college guard position and you've upgraded two positions on the line. God knows we need to basically upgrade every position on the O-line, and that would be a good way to do it. I'm not so concerned about Albert not being our LT just because we spent a #15 pick on him, but rather that this line gets a lot better sooner rather than later. If he can be an All-Pro level guard along with the Chiefs getting a stud LT, that's okay by me.
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RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $3156954	I don't think Albert can be traded anyways... hes hurt right now and I don't think you can trade hurt players can you? __________________
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10-19-2009, 12:00 AM	#102
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7299572	Okung got repeatedly pushed in the backfield by Aldon Smith, who he outweighs by 50 pounds. On top of that, Smith beat him around the edge several times. No to BlOkung. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-452950	The only player on OK State who's worthy of a high pick is Dez Bryant and I'm iffy about him...
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10-19-2009, 12:12 AM	#105
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1321248	Chiefs have announced several transcations. The first, the Chiefs have traded Dwayne Bowe to Miami for Ryan Baker, Will Billingsley, JD Folsom, Andrew Hartline, Derrick Jones, Julius Pruitt, James Robinson, and Kory Sperry. The second, the Chiefs have traded Branden Albert to New England for Titus Adams, Robbie Agone, Kyle Arrington, Bruce Davis, Terrance Nunn, Daryl Richard, Isiaih Stanback and Ryan Wendall. The third, the Chiefs have traded Derrick Johnson to Dallas for Bobby Carpenter.
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