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Old 08-24-2007, 08:49 AM  
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I have pretty much always been in the Croyle camp. I liked the draft pick ... i loved the value of getting him the 3rd round. imo he has very good upside and potiential. He's smart,mobile,has a great arm and his intangibles are top notch. We should of played him instead of Damon Huard when Trent Green got hurt last year from my point of view.

But .........


If this offense is gonna suck this bad from top to bottom... from game plan to dropped passes then i'm not so sure i want a young QB with such good potiential destroy by the process.


We should let Huard get dropped kicks all over the field until our offense stabilizes some. How about making the change after the bye week against Green Bay? I would be all for just waiting to see what's up with McIntosh.

I'd hate to see another young QB get destroyed by martyesqueball

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Old 08-24-2007, 12:53 PM   #91
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and i guess my point is that Croyle isn't the problem at all. He will get better etc.

i more worry about the rest of the offense ... which i'm not so sure will get much better.
There maybe some truth to that Laz and I believe the lack of a running game is hurting this team big time.

It will be interesting to see what happens next week when LJ comes back but the O-Line needs to block better especially running the ball.

I heard a Herm quote this afternoon saying that teams are going to stack 8-9 in the box to force the Chiefs to throw so the QB is going to have step up and complete some passes and not turn the ball over.
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:55 PM   #92
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:56 PM   #93
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I heard a Herm quote this afternoon saying that teams are going to stack 8-9 in the box to force the Chiefs to throw so the QB is going to have step up and complete some passes and not turn the ball over.
Herm is a dumb shit sometimes.. How about calling out the WR's for failing to catch the ball when it hits them in the numbers? Or for failing to get any seperation at all from the DB's....
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:57 PM   #94
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NO, don't start Huard.

What ever IT is, you can tell by watching Croyle, he has IT....
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Old 08-24-2007, 01:09 PM   #95
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Herm is a dumb shit sometimes.. How about calling out the WR's for failing to catch the ball when it hits them in the numbers? Or for failing to get any seperation at all from the DB's....
All 3 of Croyle's INT were bad decisions it had nothing to do with WR's dropping passes.

Herm said last night that the QB can't block or catch the ball so he isn't laying it all on the QB.

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EDWARDS: “He struggled some but he didn’t get any help either. He can’t catch the ball; he can’t block. That’s not all on the quarterback. Now, the quarterback has to make some plays. He got hit early and has now turned the ball over in [three games.] You can’t turn the ball over. We’ve got a good group of veteran guys on offense that have played a lot of football games. But we’re not functioning very well on offense. We’ve got no rhythm; can’t seem to get any rhythm going. We don’t have enough plays. I think the first series we had eight plays and the next drive six plays. After that it just kind of went away. We never got anything going.
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Old 08-24-2007, 01:12 PM   #96
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All 3 of Croyle's INT were bad decisions it had nothing to do with WR's dropping passes.

Herm said last night that the QB can't block or catch the ball so he isn't laying it all on the QB.
Croyle's first INT was a bad decision, AFTER being chased out of the pocket because the LT couldn't block my grandma.

Croyle's second INT was a bad decision.

Croyle's third INT was an OBVIOUS miscommunication between him and Kennison and it's quite possible Kennison ran the wrong route.
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Old 08-24-2007, 01:12 PM   #97
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All 3 of Croyle's INT were bad decisions it had nothing to do with WR's dropping passes.

Herm said last night that the QB can't block or catch the ball so he isn't laying it all on the QB.
Missed that part.. what just going by what the other guy said...

Sorry...
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Old 08-24-2007, 01:15 PM   #98
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There maybe some truth to that Laz and I believe the lack of a running game is hurting this team big time.

It will be interesting to see what happens next week when LJ comes back but the O-Line needs to block better especially running the ball.

I heard a Herm quote this afternoon saying that teams are going to stack 8-9 in the box to force the Chiefs to throw so the QB is going to have step up and complete some passes and not turn the ball over.
teams are gonna stack the box because it's martyball-esque


why wouldn't you stack the box if you know the coach lives for run,run,pass,punt.
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teams are gonna stack the box because it's martyball-esque


why wouldn't you stack the box if you know the coach lives for run,run,pass,punt.

bingo....

There isnt any great mystery in figuring out Herms offense...
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If McIntosh comes back healthy, I think he's a significant upgrade over Svitek.

That alone might be the spark to make the offense considerably better.

But it all hinges on that.
McIntosh might be better than Svitek, hey he cannot be worse, but I don't believe he is that much better and probably about as bad as Jordan Black was last year. What really is important is that we are not game planning to work around the offensive lines weaknesses. Solari/Herm stink when it comes to offensive game planning.
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McIntosh might be better than Svitek, hey he cannot be worse, but I don't believe he is that much better and probably about as bad as Jordan Black was last year. What really is important is that we are not game planning to work around the offensive lines weaknesses. Solari/Herm stink when it comes to offensive game planning.
Black = 13.5 sacks

McIntosh = 5.5 sacks

Yeah, McIntosh isn't much better...
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Croyle's first INT was a bad decision, AFTER being chased out of the pocket because the LT couldn't block my grandma.

Croyle's second INT was a bad decision.

Croyle's third INT was an OBVIOUS miscommunication between him and Kennison and it's quite possible Kennison ran the wrong route.
Dude I agree completly with you that Croyle should start, I even feel as passionately as you do but............you have to stop the excuses for him. Just say "yes he is going to make mistakes but he is our best option." The idea that Kennison is sandbagging Croyle is silly, it's also silly to say he's just trying to hard to "win" the job. He's young and raw hes going to make mistakes we as fans just have to ride it out, but you have got to stop with the conspiracy theorys. I am with you on the Croyle bandwagon but lets just face the facts that we don't know as of yet what we have.
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Dude I agree completly with you that Croyle should start, I even feel as passionately as you do but............you have to stop the excuses for him. Just say "yes he is going to make mistakes but he is our best option." The idea that Kennison is sandbagging Croyle is silly, it's also silly to say he's just trying to hard to "win" the job. He's young and raw hes going to make mistakes we as fans just have to ride it out, but you have got to stop with the conspiracy theorys. I am with you on the Croyle bandwagon but lets just face the facts that we don't know as of yet what we have.
Those aren't excuses, they're reasons.
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