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Old 10-29-2023, 06:50 PM  
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Let's Talk About Nagy's Playcalling
I think we can all agree that our offense has been "off" all season, minus the Bears and Chargers games. Mahomes hasn't looked himself by and large, and that could well be because of the talent around him, but watching the plays unfold just makes me wonder why some of the plays are being called in the first place.

Today was an abomination on many fronts with the offense but it sure looked a good deal like an Alex Smith game plan, minus Mahomes' patented making something out of nothing scramble drill passes. The run plays were predictable and getting nothing, but they kept forcing them. We threw the ball laterally as much as horizontally (seemingly), and the plays themselves just look, well, off.

Is it Nagy, is it Mahomes, is it the talent outside of Mahomes and Kelce, or is it a combination of all that? Or was this game just an outlier and our annual piss down our legs game as has been suggested, and I'm just OMG-ing for no good reason?

Something FEELS different than in the past so far this season. I would love to put my finger on what it is, precisely.
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Old 10-31-2023, 07:15 AM   #91
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Targets should be going almost exclusively to Kelce, Rice, Watson and Hardman going forward, with Pacheco, McKinnon and Gray cleaning up the checkdowns. Hardman is a damn nice 4th option.
Get this over to 1 Arrowhead Drive before Thursday.
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Old 10-31-2023, 12:37 PM   #92
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Speaking of play calling...should we have gone for this?

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Old 10-31-2023, 01:39 PM   #93
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I don't love the playcalling this year BUT....

Nagy wasn't the OT's letting Denver's DEs look like probowlers....
Nagy wasn't dropping passes that hit him in the hands....
Nagy wasn't playing QB sick, and making more bad decisions this year....likely due to both of the above statements.
Nagy wasn't the defense giving up 12 minute drives and committing penalties when they DID make a stop.
The offense is designed to throw the ball and set up the running game. When your Wr. can not get open against press coverage and drop the ball when they do it really is difficult to adjust the play calling.

We do not have a Fullback on the roster, the team is not setup to play power football.
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Old 10-31-2023, 02:07 PM   #94
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Speaking of play calling...should we have gone for this?
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Old 10-31-2023, 02:08 PM   #95
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What’s up with the stupid swing passes on third and fiveish

Just let Mahomes do his thing
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What’s up with the stupid swing passes on third and fiveish

Just let Mahomes do his thing
Very ****ing annoying. I saw multiple other teams run similar plays, and every time the WR ran straight into a defensive lineman.

Those plays look awful when they don't work and they rarely do.
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Old 10-31-2023, 02:14 PM   #97
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Very ****ing annoying. I saw multiple other teams run similar plays, and every time the WR ran straight into a defensive lineman.

Those plays look awful when they don't work and they rarely do.
Yeah, never a fan of throwing the ball backwards, leaving your RB/WR to gain even more yardage than absolutely necessary.
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Old 10-31-2023, 02:35 PM   #98
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I just can't get over 4th and 2 - and we throw it 20+ when points are imperative. Like - just move the chains.
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I just can't get over 4th and 2 - and we throw it 20+ when points are imperative. Like - just move the chains.
They had two short routes and two intermediate routes going. All were covered.
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Old 10-31-2023, 03:38 PM   #100
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They had two short routes and two intermediate routes going. All were covered.
the 20 yarder was covered - your point? The probability is still higher on a short pass.
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the 20 yarder was covered - your point? The probability is still higher on a short pass.
Look at the All 22. Skyy was the most open.

The only issue with the play was Skyy dropping the ball.
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Look at the All 22. Skyy was the most open.

The only issue with the play was Skyy dropping the ball.
The only issue with Skyy is....well, Skyy..
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I’ve lost track on how many times we’ve gotten negative yards on first down because our running game is ass.

I’ve lost track how many first downs we’ve passed up cause we’re forcing the ball to Kelce.

I’ve lost track on how many open Wrs we’ve passed up so we could throw it deep in short yardage situations.

I’ve lost rack on how many easy dropped balls we’ve had.

There’s lots to lose track of here.
Well they have 16 negative runs out of 113 1st down rushes.

Pacheco avgs 3.71 yds per rush on 1st down with 72 rushes
MEH avgs 2.55 ypc on 1st down with 20 rushes
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Speaking of play calling...should we have gone for this?
I would've gone for it but hell, even a field goal was in play. 60 yards for Butker in Denver is a walk in the park. Anything but a punt.
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