Best weed killer for lawns with rocks landscaping

[scho63]

The last two weeks the weeds have come out and grown with vengeance all over the lawn between all the rocks.

I need to find something that will kill it all and last.

I prefer to have a ready-to-use product rather than a concentrate to mix in a sprayer I would have to buy.

The ground is hard and dry here in AZ so not sure if it is wise to water a little first before applying the weed killer.

I know Ortho and Roundup are the two big ones many homeowners use.

I don't have a huge yard but have weeds coming up all over. I'm sure the landscapers didn't put down a tarp to block the weeks or it was done poorly.

Any advice appreciated.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by scho63

Finally found the best weedkiller: I put an ad on Craigslist on Tuesday and hired a Mexican to pull all my weeds for $100.

Problem solved.

Mexicans are the best ! They're good at masturbating swines also.

I've used them for lots of different stuff.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by scho63

Finally found the best weedkiller: I put an ad on Craigslist on Tuesday and hired a Mexican to pull all my weeds for $100.

Problem solved.

Task rabbit or Thumbtack are much better options.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Glyphosate and Specticle.

Gas works the best.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Originally Posted by TRR

Ortho ground clear works better for weeds growing in rock beds than the aforementioned brands. In my experience at least.

This. Ortho Groundclear ftw. Get the concentrated version and a $20 sprayer at Home Depot, spray your entire yard with enough to wet the rocks and you’re golden for 6 months.

[srvy]

Agent orange followed up with napalm.

[booger]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

https://www.amazon.com/Mana-Pramitol...6179841&sr=8-6

Read the directions. It’s serious business.

Originally Posted by booger

Got a similar situation with a rock garden like Scho. But also have a retaining wall flower bed type deal that’s only 2-3 feet tall at moms house and she wants me to kill off everything so she can start new with her choice of plants and shrubs.

I’ve had luck using 45-75% vinegar diluted and mixing with a cup of salt, cup of borax, and dish soap. It’s a YouTube recipe out there that’s free of roundup ingredients etc. I used it in the brick paver spot she has and the rock garden with good luck.

My question is can I harm the soil for future plants/shrubs this spring with any of those ingredients? I’m in Iowa (great rich soil) and will probably kill it off in the next week. So by April/may should the soil be alright to add new plants/shrubs safely?

Originally Posted by KS Smitty

The acidity of the vinegar and salinity of the salt that remains in the soil after treatment and the amount of rain/snow and wind you get over the winter will determine that. I would suggest taking soil samples to your local extension office in the spring to see what, if any, remains and amending the soil to "fix" it.

I’ve been spot spraying this for the weeds with the homemade vinegar weed spray and it just keeps growing back. Now the goal is getting rid of all vegetation here in the next couple weeks then by late April early May laying down a layer of the weed preventative fabric and cedar mulch and chips. Going to plant 2-3 miniature shrub type bushes. Is this a good choice for total vegetation control?



https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/pr...595?store=2304

Choosing cedar as it’s supposed to help with insect control. I’m sure I’ll still have to spray it. Going to be a pain raking rocks and scooping them up. Thinking about 6-7 bags of quick crete is the best way to go. If I use the rm43 would you suppose May the soil will be good enough for the new shrubs?

[BWillie]

I finally found a guy that knocks out weeds good and has some pre emergent. Its insanw how difficult it is to find someone with shit powerful enough.

[crazycoffey]

Antifreeze?

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by booger

I’ve been spot spraying this for the weeds with the homemade vinegar weed spray and it just keeps growing back. Now the goal is getting rid of all vegetation here in the next couple weeks then by late April early May laying down a layer of the weed preventative fabric and cedar mulch and chips. Going to plant 2-3 miniature shrub type bushes. Is this a good choice for total vegetation control?



https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/pr...595?store=2304

Choosing cedar as it’s supposed to help with insect control. I’m sure I’ll still have to spray it. Going to be a pain raking rocks and scooping them up. Thinking about 6-7 bags of quick crete is the best way to go. If I use the rm43 would you suppose May the soil will be good enough for the new shrubs?

I’d say no. I’ve never used the product but according to the specimen label, Imazapyr has a 12 month planting restriction. Meaning the product will have adverse effects on anything you plant for 12 months. Longer if you over apply, which is hard not to do in a hand sprayer situation.

What kind of weeds are you after?

[booger]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

I’d say no. I’ve never used the product but according to the specimen label, Imazapyr has a 12 month planting restriction. Meaning the product will have adverse effects on anything you plant for 12 months. Longer if you over apply, which is hard not to do in a hand sprayer situation.

What kind of weeds are you after?

Some that’s a creeping type with little blue flowers and then these big bastards that have rhubarb leaves and grow stalks on them as girthy as my tallywhacker if you let them get out of control. Then just some other basic stuff. I think I’m looking at it wrong by thinking napalming the damn thing instead I just need to kill it again with the industrial strength vinegar/salt/soap then do it the right way and dig them out by the roots. Then put the fabric down then the cedar chips and just let it sit that way until I plant the new stuff in May and deal with anything that grows up out of that on a specific basis. Identify it and research/bump the thread and see how to treat it if it becomes a problem. I got me one of these root slayer spades that I’ve mostly used in the snow the past couple winters as a spear for rabbits and other rodents. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Radius-G...B&gclsrc=aw.ds

If a guy would sharpen every edge on the summbitch it could probably slay zombies. If that don’t work I will have an excuse for the large flame king propane torch. I was looking at an easy way but sometimes a guy has to look in the mirror and say hey numbnuts dig and pull that shit out by the roots and do it the right way! No shortcuts! Also I need to remember the folks at 1-800 call before you dig… I should probably have them show me where the gas line is buried if I do get a torch because this is all inside a retaining wall next to the house. So I need to write that down and I will keep you posted next spring! Thanks bud

[notorious]

I live out in the country where every seed known to man gets in my buffalo grass. It has made incredible strides with per-emerge herbicide before and after season and trimec during season.

What I can't kill are the stickers. The kind that you would grab as a kid and whip them into a classmate's shirt. Since they start popping up in Late July/Early August it's too hot to spray 2-4-d/trimec as I don't want to roast the buffalo grass.



I need large-scale spraying solutions. 5 acres. Thanks guys.

[HonestChieffan]

Originally Posted by notorious

I live out in the country where every seed known to man gets in my buffalo grass. It has made incredible strides with per-emerge herbicide before and after season and trimec during season.

What I can't kill are the stickers. The kind that you would grab as a kid and whip them into a classmate's shirt. Since they start popping up in Late July/Early August it's too hot to spray 2-4-d/trimec as I don't want to roast the buffalo grass.



I need large-scale spraying solutions. 5 acres. Thanks guys.

Thats Grassy Sandbur.....not that hard to kill with a preemerge Oryzalin is best, pendimethalin second. both safe to the buffalograss since its an established perennial.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by booger

Some that’s a creeping type with little blue flowers and then these big bastards that have rhubarb leaves and grow stalks on them as girthy as my tallywhacker if you let them get out of control. Then just some other basic stuff. I think I’m looking at it wrong by thinking napalming the damn thing instead I just need to kill it again with the industrial strength vinegar/salt/soap then do it the right way and dig them out by the roots. Then put the fabric down then the cedar chips and just let it sit that way until I plant the new stuff in May and deal with anything that grows up out of that on a specific basis. Identify it and research/bump the thread and see how to treat it if it becomes a problem. I got me one of these root slayer spades that I’ve mostly used in the snow the past couple winters as a spear for rabbits and other rodents. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Radius-G...B&gclsrc=aw.ds

If a guy would sharpen every edge on the summbitch it could probably slay zombies. If that don’t work I will have an excuse for the large flame king propane torch. I was looking at an easy way but sometimes a guy has to look in the mirror and say hey numbnuts dig and pull that shit out by the roots and do it the right way! No shortcuts! Also I need to remember the folks at 1-800 call before you dig… I should probably have them show me where the gas line is buried if I do get a torch because this is all inside a retaining wall next to the house. So I need to write that down and I will keep you posted next spring! Thanks bud

If you mix these 2 herbicides together (with water) and spray them, it should get you pretty broad spectrum efficacy. Glyphosate is one of the 2 products in the link you had and the other one is an auxin herbicide that increases the efficacy in some broadleaves specifically the creeping shit. You should be able to lay it on thick without any residual concerns for your bushes. If it doesn’t get the woody shit, you’ll have to dig that.

Spray it now. Spray it again in October if there is any new sprouts or regrowth, again in the early spring and a week before you plant.

Also: walk backwards so you don’t get it on your shoes then walk through your grass.

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/pr...-41-glyphosate

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/pr...erbicide-1-gal

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by notorious

I live out in the country where every seed known to man gets in my buffalo grass. It has made incredible strides with per-emerge herbicide before and after season and trimec during season.

What I can't kill are the stickers. The kind that you would grab as a kid and whip them into a classmate's shirt. Since they start popping up in Late July/Early August it's too hot to spray 2-4-d/trimec as I don't want to roast the buffalo grass.



I need large-scale spraying solutions. 5 acres. Thanks guys.

Give your kids a wood chisel and have them dig them. Biology is too close to Buffalo to get any post emerge control.

Pre-emerge is the way. Pendulum (or if any of your buddies can get prowl h20 it’s the same shit), and apply it before a rain. It has to be incorporated with water. If you can irrigate, spray an area and water it the next day. Typically early in the spring and again in like June.

Those ****ing things are the spawn of satan.

EDIT: If your buffalo goes dormant, like really ****ing dormant in the winter you can get them with a half rate of glyphosate.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I finally found a guy that knocks out weeds good and has some pre emergent. Its insanw how difficult it is to find someone with shit powerful enough.

There's quite a few here in PHX, guessing due to the large amount of rock only landscaping

I've used the same guy twice now. Shows up in March and I'm weed free for 12 months

Find a couple others neighbors to maximize his time in the area and its well worth the cost imo

Scho - I can rep you his number if you're still having issues