Let's talk about the Bills - AFC Championship Edition

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[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He fits what Buffalo has been doing this year.

Allen standing back there and waiting for the coverage to break down gives Coleman plenty of time to eventually come open. And if it doesn't happen, Allen has the size/speed to buy enough time and toss a YOLO ball for Coleman to fight for.

If a team can get after Allen a bit, it'll neutralize Coleman completely. But thus far, teams haven't.

Coleman would've been a complete non-factor here, IMO, but that doesn't mean he's been a disaster for Buffalo. He's been pretty productive in this bizarre sort of haphazard caveman passing game they've pieced together this year.

He and Shakir will likely complement each other similarly to Rice/Worthy going forward.

I'm not saying Coleman sucks, he's just not a 1st round talent like Virus has tried to argue, and he's absolutely not as good as Worthy. There's so much more room for growth and development with Worthy, whereas Coleman is who he is. He's a WR3, maybe a low end WR2.

[Boxer_Chief]

Coleman benefits from Josh having 10 seconds to throw in the pocket. I’ve never seen him make an actual wr catch, it’s always deep passes where the defender lost him in time consuming coverage.

[staylor26]

Almost 1/4 of Coleman's production came in one game. He has not at all been the steady reliable player that Worthy has been, especially down the stretch.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Boxer_Chief

Coleman benefits from Josh having 10 seconds to throw in the pocket. I’ve never seen him make an actual wr catch, it’s always deep passes where the defender lost him in time consuming coverage.

This guy gets it.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Almost 1/4 of Coleman's production came in one game. He has not at all been the steady reliable player that Worthy has been, especially down the stretch.

We will see this weekend because I think Josh will be throwing jump balls a lot if the put McDuffie on shakir .

[Direckshun]

I'll share this here, posted it in the Bills thread:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

This game feels like a coin flip to me. Both teams truly have the answers to each other, so it will just come down to turnovers and execution.

The Chiefs run defense has significantly weakened in the last month or two of starter play. Pennel is not nearly the force he was to start the season, so if the Bills stick to the run and Allen carries it 10+ times and Cook gets a bellcow share, it's going to be really hard to stop this team, because their passing game is basically the Chiefs' passing game from 2022, where Allen has a ton of B and B+ options at his disposal, and he's making excellent decisions. The Chiefs secondary is as well built to stop this passing offense as any secondary in the league, but even they're going to have problems with it, Kincaid in particular, which is a matchup nightmare against us.

If the Chiefs can get to Allen, all bets are off, however. But no team has gotten to Allen a lot this year, including us (even though we didn't have Omenihu).

The Bills have a good run defense, but the Chiefs are more invested in passing anyway. They run purely to keep the defense honest, and I think if they stick with Kareem this week, they're going to get their three-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust game going.

But it's the passing offense. The Chiefs just put up 23 points on an excellent defense last week without really using their WRs. I gotta imagine they open up the playbook more this week. The Bills will come out with a couple weird adjustments to catch the Chiefs off balance for a couple drives -- which will be enough for Allen to build an early lead. After that, Mahomes is too smart for zone, and Andy Reid's playcalling is too clever for man, and they're going to start moving the ball for those 6- and 7-minute drives. But they have to kill it in the red zone this week. Going 2-for-6 in the red zone this week might doom you.

This might be a week for Humphries to get the snaps at LT. The Bills best passrush comes from the interior, and having them face off against Thuney-Humphrey-Smith should stymie them a lot. Oliver spanked Smith a ton last time these teams played, so if the Chiefs can't adjust to Oliver, all bets are off.

The game just feels like a 50/50 to me. Every time I start leaning one way, like the Bills are better, or no wait, Mahomes never loses to the Bills, the counterarguments eat me up. I don't know if either team has an edge, but I'm very, very glad it's in Arrowhead.

[staylor26]

Nobody gives a shit about your thoughts.

[htismaqe]

You could have just left that in the Bills thread. Nobody is surprised that you're undecided and nervous about this game.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He fits what Buffalo has been doing this year.

Allen standing back there and waiting for the coverage to break down gives Coleman plenty of time to eventually come open. And if it doesn't happen, Allen has the size/speed to buy enough time and toss a YOLO ball for Coleman to fight for.

If a team can get after Allen a bit, it'll neutralize Coleman completely. But thus far, teams haven't.

Coleman would've been a complete non-factor here, IMO, but that doesn't mean he's been a disaster for Buffalo. He's been pretty productive in this bizarre sort of haphazard caveman passing game they've pieced together this year.

He and Shakir will likely complement each other similarly to Rice/Worthy going forward.

The most shocking pick in the entire draft this year was Buffalo choosing Coleman over McConkey, and thank God they did.

I never understood it at all. Sure you have Shakir doing a lot of that role, but McConkey can win deep as well. They have 2 TE’s doing the job they want Coleman to do.

Shocking that everyone not named Shakir is struggling to separate which is why they got Amari Cooper. And as much as I thought Curtis Samuel could be solid for us, he’s just not been that good this year.

I think there’s a fair chance that Buffalo looks back in a couple years and is mad that they not only passed on Worthy, but McConkey as well.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You could have just left that in the Bills thread. Nobody is surprised that you're undecided and nervous about this game.

It's literally the same thing every time

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You could have just left that in the Bills thread. Nobody is surprised that you're undecided and nervous about this game.

I don't know, I generally weigh out games ahead of time based on who I think has more answers for the other team.

I think the Chiefs have a ton of answers for the Bills defense. I think their best rushes come from the interior, which is the strength of our entire offense if Thuney is at LG. I think their secondary can do a couple tricky things to confuse us early on but that we'll crack that case. I think Milano solves their run defense issues, but Kareem is Kareem, and he's going to get his.

The Bills have a ton of answers for us as well. The strength of our defense is Spags' blitzes, and I think we may actually have an edge there -- Allen does decline against the blitz historically, but he's playing at an MVP caliber right now and making excellent decisions. They've got a run game to put us on our heels for when he passes, and our secondary is as deep as any in the league, but the Bills have seven B and B+ level passcatchers.

So I really do think this comes down evenly, maybe with the slightest of leans to KC, but there are so many X factors that it's hard to be confident.

If Allen puts on the cape, all bets are off. If Spags can get the blitz home, all bets are off. If Mahomes turns it over (which he hasn't at a historic level right now), all bets are off.

On and on it goes.

Going to be a thrilling, intense game.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by RunKC

The most shocking pick in the entire draft this year was Buffalo choosing Coleman over McConkey, and thank God they did.

I never understood it at all. Sure you have Shakir doing a lot of that role, but McConkey can win deep as well. They have 2 TE’s doing the job they want Coleman to do.

Shocking that everyone not named Shakir is struggling to separate which is why they got Amari Cooper. And as much as I thought Curtis Samuel could be solid for us, he’s just not been that good this year.

I think there’s a fair chance that Buffalo looks back in a couple years and is mad that they not only passed on Worthy, but McConkey as well.

The WRs from this draft have just been unreal. It's actually been a couple extremely good WR drafts, recently.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Mahomes understands the gravity of the moment.

If KC wins and goes on to threepeat, they're immortalized. No one can say shit. Anyone trying to rate a QB higher than Mahomes will be laughed out of the room.

But.....

If the Bills win, and especially if they go on to win the SB...the narrative will be that Allen is now officially the greatest football player in the world. Social media and the talking heads will be insufferable.

Mahomes is dropping 35+ on that weak ass D. It's up to Spags to just get a few stops.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Mahomes is dropping 35+ on that weak ass D. It's up to Spags to just get a few stops.

Chiefs haven't scored that much this year because they simply haven't had to.

They would score more if they needed to.

Chiefs, 30-23.

[crispystl]

Originally Posted by RedinTexas

WTF is the point in catch-and-release fishing if you're going to be unnecessarily cruel to them while you have them? Where is PETA??

Can you imagine someone holding you under water and forcing you to watch Josh Allen videos? That's some Guantanamo Bay-level nightmare shit right there.